why doesnt everyone just pay the same amount of tax?

[shira]

300M americans, budget is 3.5 trillion. That's $10k/person. If a family currently makes $40k and has 4 kids how exactly are they going to find $60k/year for taxes?

Sell the little girls to Saudi sheiks. Sell the body parts of the boys to sick rich people.

The free market solves all problems.

 

[Anarchist420]

Even though it's a tax, it would limit spending so it's not as bad as a flat rate income tax.

 

[Anarchist420]

The free market solves all problems.

No free market advocate has ever claimed it "solved all problems". Those who advocate the free market do so because they reject the initiation of violence.

 

[brianmanahan]

300M americans, budget is 3.5 trillion. That's $10k/person. If a family currently makes $40k and has 4 kids how exactly are they going to find $60k/year for taxes?

companies should have to pay at least half as well, so that would take it down quite a bit per person

 

[Doppel]

companies should have to pay at least half as well, so that would take it down quite a bit per person

So that one guy working and his wife takes care of the kids, how much is the company going to pay in taxes for him?

 

[EagleKeeper]

no, you don't understand - i am talking that everyone pays the same percentage of the budget. 1/300*10^6th of the budget.

companies should have to pay at least half as well, so that would take it down quite a bit per person

If you want to tax a company as a person; then they also should have the benefits allowed to a person.

What about single person companies ; is this double taxation you are proposing.

A baby that is born 31 Dec has a tax bill of $10-15K?


Think before you float such ideas.
Save you some embarrassment

 

[alkemyst]

300M americans, budget is 3.5 trillion. That's $10k/person. If a family currently makes $40k and has 4 kids how exactly are they going to find $60k/year for taxes?

The problem is where is most of the US going to find $60k a year for taxes, even if just a couple; $20k is WAY beyond what the average person pays.

 

[alkemyst]

companies should have to pay at least half as well, so that would take it down quite a bit per person

Have you even gone to college yet?

 

[brianmanahan]

Have you even gone to college yet?

 

[Engineer]

The OP is a fool and has no real clue in life about taxes.....period.

or the OP is a 1%'er and the smartest one of the bunch....

 

[piasabird]

People already pay all kinds of taxes. SS, Medicare, Federal and State Gas Tax, Property tax, State Sales tax, Vehicle License Plates and registrations, Capital Gains, phone line charges, carrier charges, FCC Internet taxes, etc.

I have a better idea. Make a 10% tariff on all Chinese goods and all Imported products including food and cars.

 

[piasabird]

Why doesnt everyone make the same amount of money? Life does not work that way.

 

[FaaR]

I have a better idea. Make a 10% tariff on all Chinese goods and all Imported products including food and cars.

Import tariffs are terrible, you'll just shoot yourself in the foot that way since other countries will respond in kind and US export companies will feel the pain when their products become uncompetitive on the global market.

Also, why should people desiring spanish ham and german beer and whatnot be punished with extra tariffs?

 

[Murloc]

The OP is a fool and has no real clue in life about taxes.....period.

or the OP is a 1%'er and the smartest one of the bunch....

or most probably he's not serious about this.

 

[Engineer]

Import tariffs are terrible, you'll just shoot yourself in the foot that way since other countries will respond in kind and US export companies will feel the pain when their products become uncompetitive on the global market.

Also, why should people desiring spanish ham and german beer and whatnot be punished with extra tariffs?

Who said that we had to do it against Spain or Germany? Also, do you actually think that 'free trade' is a two way street? LOL.

Other countries are killing our products with tariffs or high taxes but we refuse to do the same. My company was going to build an electrical panel for Brazil but their taxes on imports were over 50%. I bet we don't have a 50% tariff on the same type of imported components.

Free Trade: Trading our good paying, wealth creating jobs for cheap, Chinese made junk....one job at a time.

 

[DrPizza]

he receives just about as much benefit from the govt as i do, shouldnt we all pay the same price?

Uhh, actually, he doesn't. Not even close.

 

[alkemyst]

Import tariffs are terrible, you'll just shoot yourself in the foot that way since other countries will respond in kind and US export companies will feel the pain when their products become uncompetitive on the global market.

Also, why should people desiring spanish ham and german beer and whatnot be punished with extra tariffs?

I expect to pay more for imports for things made here.

 

[child of wonder]

This is the same thing my cousin supports. He wants the entire federal, state, county, and city budgets all added up and divided by the number of citizens which would then equal your tax bill per year.

"If I make more money than average why should I be punished by paying more in taxes?" he replies when I suggest perhaps a flat tax or the Fair Tax might be a more reasonable solution.

Naturally, he epitomizes self-centeredness and selfishness.

 

[EagleKeeper]

This is the same thing my cousin supports. He wants the entire federal, state, county, and city budgets all added up and divided by the number of citizens which would then equal your tax bill per year.

"If I make more money than average why should I be punished by paying more in taxes?" he replies when I suggest perhaps a flat tax or the Fair Tax might be a more reasonable solution.

Naturally, he epitomizes self-centeredness and selfishness.

Anything that is not based on a fixed number/% becomes skewed in some way toward a certain segment of population. Doing so make is inherently unfair; not FAIR

 

[Cattlegod]

they should roll taxes back to how it was in the 70s when the rich (top 1%) paid 70% tax rate and it should apply to all types of income.

 

[Attic]

We can just print money to buy our debt, why hurt the little guy so transparently when you can do it through more nefarious means?

 

[Matt1970]

companies should have to pay at least half as well, so that would take it down quite a bit per person

Seeing as how I am a company of 1, do I pay the same amount Walmart does?

 

[Abraxas]

Good lord, this thread is like an airshow in text form. I don't think I've ever seen a point go over so many heads simultaneously. The OP is obviously riffing on the idea behind a flat tax or "fair tax" taken to the logical conclusion, that if it is unfair or unjust to tax people at different rates, why is it more fair to tax them at different amounts?

Of course it is absurd, of course it is nonsensical - that is the entire point. A flat tax is unworkable and irrational for the same reason, that someone living paycheck to paycheck isn't going to be able to feed their family when the same percent is paid to income taxes as someone who is running a multi-billion dollar company and whose assets are best measured by number of postal codes. A flat tax that brings down the top rates can only bring up the bottom rates to remain revenue neutral and as such those who are hurting most economically now would be hammered by a flat tax to only a marginally lesser degree than just charging everyone the same dollar amount.

 

[NTMBK]

If there was no way to enforce IP, then Microsoft would've been a small business vulnerable to failure.

If there was no way to enforce IP, there would be no incentive for anyone to invest in developing any non-physical assets, and the entire computer software industry would implode.

 

[zanejohnson]

are you drunk or something?