i pay over that now just out of my paycheck per year, now count in all the taxes i pay in property, fuel, food, sin, development taxes and its quite a bit more than 10K. AND I STILL HAVE TO SHELL OUT ALMOST 500 A MONTH IN HEALTH INSURANCE!!!
GAAA!
Originally Posted by ThinClient
... do you pay $10k in taxes each year right now? Would you f****g WANT to?
The higher rates, the more deductions. The more deductions, the more power has government over one's behavior. The more power has government over one's behavior, the less freedom one has.
Everyone should just pay a dollar. Problem solved.
The simple fact is a "fair" tax system in which we all paid the same would particularly suck for people of less means. It's also extremely hard to identify how much we all benefit from taxes. You use a road, but if I own a trucking company I use it a lot more than you do.
or everybody should pay something. having half our populatoin not paying any fed taxes is a problem.
Alright, the 50% who don't currently pay any taxes can pay a dolla. Happy?
it only seems fair if you think about it. take the entire budget, divide it by the number of people, and have everyone pay the same percentage. that way the game is even.
likewise for corporations, they could each pay the same percent.
As long as we're falling all over each other to come up with retarded solutions for how to make things more fair, why is it that different jobs pay different amounts? Every job should pay exactly the same, whether you're the best surgeon in the world or the guy flipping burgers at 55 because you were too lazy to pursue an education. And, hey, when everyone is making exactly $47,000 or so, that $10,000 tax bill won't feel so bad.
After all, it's fair.
Taxes themselves are not fair, so it is impossible to make a fair system. Stop trying. Submit, and try your best to be happy with where you are.
There is not 1 end all solid soluation to tax "fairness". What would benefit one group, would cripple another, etc. The only thing I know now, is the rich don't pay enough. The rich are richer now than they have ever been before.
^^^^Awww... did someone just get out of a third grade math class and is now trying out his new abilities on his worldview?
How cute.
The simple fact is a "fair" tax system in which we all paid the same would particularly suck for people of less means. It's also extremely hard to identify how much we all benefit from taxes. You use a road, but if I own a trucking company I use it a lot more than you do.
So being poor=non productive member of society?And the poor use more gov't services($$$) than those who are productive members of society. and if you own a trucking company, you are already paying a fortune in road taxes per state, fuel tax, etc... Or haven't you noticed all the little tax stickers on the big rigs?
So being poor=non productive member of society?
COngrats you have astronomical IQ!!!! :whiste:
Nice try.
Productive = income tax revenue. When they are net even or actually contributing INCOME taxes then they will not be consuming as much gov't services and tax dollars.
There is a difference between being unemployed and poor. You can work pay taxes and still be poor. So shush ignorant one.
Yes, I know that. Nice try again.
Again, when their income taxes are at least a net even after various deductions and so forth, then they can be considered productive. I was part of the working poor over twenty years ago barely living paycheck to paycheck. The difference was, I didn't start a family as that would have been idiotic at the time. I understand some people slip in and out of that status - Gainfully employed to working poor. I don't have a problem with that cycle. I have a problem with those in the perpetual state of working poor. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes by location, and sometimes bad luck... But it can be overcome. Nearly half the population of this country is getting some form of gov't assistance. That in itself is a travesty. The welfare roles are so high that we can't even truly help anyone that slips into the prison that public assistance turns out to become for them. If we fought the fraud, ended benefits for lifers, we'd actually be able to help people beyond just merely helping them persist.
QFTor everybody should pay something. having half our populatoin not paying any fed taxes is a problem.
And the poor use more gov't services($$$) than those who are productive members of society. and if you own a trucking company, you are already paying a fortune in road taxes per state, fuel tax, etc... Or haven't you noticed all the little tax stickers on the big rigs?
or everybody should pay something. having half our populatoin not paying any fed taxes is a problem.