Why don't other colleges charge $240.00 tuition for full time students?

[uberman]

I believe education is important and people should have access to it.

Community colleges in CA, San Francisco Bay Area are $20.00 a unit. A full load at 12 units would be $240.00. The same at a community college in Washington state is $800.00. Why? Aren't high tuitions foolish and shortsighted? Isn't there a greater long term benefit to education?

I have several degrees. My first one is from a community college. I then transfered those credits to a 4 year college. I think this is the best way, because general education classes are packed at universities and community colleges are cheap. That's just my opinion.

 

[Aimster]

state budget

 

[wetcat007]

What are units?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: wetcat007
What are units?

Credit hours

The answer is taxes, basically. It costs a lot more than what they charge, so everyone has to pay for it in taxes.

 

[Journer]

all colleges are run by cold hearless money hoarding jerks...didnt you know this?

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: wetcat007
What are units?

Credit hours

The answer is taxes, basically. It costs a lot more than what they charge, so everyone has to pay for it in taxes.

Both of those schools are really really cheap compared to what I pay then.. $133/credit for a public 2 year school, and $166/credit for the 4 year public university I'm going to in the fall.

 

[BoomerD]

Wow...12 units/credits is considered to be a full load? HTH do you get an AA/AS degree that requires 60 units in just 4 semesters? ( I know, summer semseter for some of the general ed crap)Sheesh, I'm looking at 15 units this semester, and considering another class, just to fill up my days...although reality MAY bite me in the arse however, and I'll end up dropping one of those classes, in order to keep up in the others...time will tell...

 

[uberman]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Wow...12 units/credits is considered to be a full load? HTH do you get an AA/AS degree that requires 60 units in just 4 semesters? ( I know, summer semseter for some of the general ed crap)Sheesh, I'm looking at 15 units this semester, and considering another class, just to fill up my days...although reality MAY bite me in the arse however, and I'll end up dropping one of those classes, in order to keep up in the others...time will tell...

I posted the figure of 12 units/credits as full time because that is a standard for financial aid eligibility. Many consider 15 units/credits to be a full time student. My purpose was to keep college accessible.

 

[illusion88]

ARe you sure that's not an out of state fee?

 

[BillyBatson]

tution just dropped this semester at my school, pierce college, to $20 a unit, i think it was like $32 a unit last semester? not sure

 

[uberman]

Originally posted by: illusion88
ARe you sure that's not an out of state fee?

Those are resident fees.

 

[imported_Lothar]

There's no free lunch.

 

[JS80]

1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

 

[uberman]

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

So you are the shortsighted one.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: uberman

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

So you are the shortsighted one.

Please do explain

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

Umm, yeah there is, lets go see what percent of harvard graduates are millionares and what percent of community college graduates are, i'm pretty certain there will be a HUGE difference. A good college provides soo many benefits over a bad one that its not even funny. First off you are taught be better teachers, you are foreced to adopt a more strict studing regiment, you get a big name or your diploma, and you get well contected contacts. Its true to a good extent that 5 years out of college people are gonna be looking more at your on the job experience than your college GPA, but you are sure as heck gonna get alot better starting job with a big name degree.

I coulda gone to a state school for free, but instead i went to the second most expensive university in the country, and I fully expect it to be worth every penny (which btw is alot less pennies than the full tuition due to financial aid, but the point is still valid).

 

[BoomerD]

I believe the point JS80 was making is that whether you pay $240 or $800 out of pocket, you'll still end up paying the same amount through increased taxes to support the lower CC fees...LOTS of people get their general ed classes out of the way in community colleges, rather than pay the ridiculous fees in private colleges for their freshman/sophmore years. Then, pay those fees for the "real skooling" for the last 2 years...then again, for some people, it's all about the status of the "big name university", rather than the actual education you get...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: uberman

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

So you are the shortsighted one.

Please do explain

Education enables to lead more prosperous lives and contribute more in taxes rather than costing the government money in the long run.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

Umm, yeah there is, lets go see what percent of harvard graduates are millionares and what percent of community college graduates are, i'm pretty certain there will be a HUGE difference. A good college provides soo many benefits over a bad one that its not even funny. First off you are taught be better teachers, you are foreced to adopt a more strict studing regiment, you get a big name or your diploma, and you get well contected contacts. Its true to a good extent that 5 years out of college people are gonna be looking more at your on the job experience than your college GPA, but you are sure as heck gonna get alot better starting job with a big name degree.

I coulda gone to a state school for free, but instead i went to the second most expensive university in the country, and I fully expect it to be worth every penny (which btw is alot less pennies than the full tuition due to financial aid, but the point is still valid).

This is the only important difference. You can learn the same material and develop the same study habits anywhere - even by yourself at home. Big name schools are only worthwhile because you meet well connected people.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

Umm, yeah there is, lets go see what percent of harvard graduates are millionares and what percent of community college graduates are, i'm pretty certain there will be a HUGE difference. A good college provides soo many benefits over a bad one that its not even funny. First off you are taught be better teachers, you are foreced to adopt a more strict studing regiment, you get a big name or your diploma, and you get well contected contacts. Its true to a good extent that 5 years out of college people are gonna be looking more at your on the job experience than your college GPA, but you are sure as heck gonna get alot better starting job with a big name degree.

I coulda gone to a state school for free, but instead i went to the second most expensive university in the country, and I fully expect it to be worth every penny (which btw is alot less pennies than the full tuition due to financial aid, but the point is still valid).

Harvard's tuitition is a lot more than $800. I think what he means is that $240 and $800 are both pretty trivial numbers when considering the cost of education. $800 is not going to prevent someone from going to community college if they want to get educated. Harvard's tuition (probably around $40k a year now with room and board) would.

 

[uberman]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: uberman

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

So you are the shortsighted one.

Please do explain

Education enables to lead more prosperous lives and contribute more in taxes rather than costing the government money in the long run.

Mugs is right in assessing my views on this subject. You have to look at the benefits in the long run. More taxes are one, also a better educated population will bring more money to the state. Living standards improve, people earning money spend more and support businesses, this goes on and on. It's a win-win situation for the individual and the state.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: uberman

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: uberman

Originally posted by: JS80
1) other people shouldn't be paying for your community college
2) there is no difference between $240 and $800 for a college education in the long run

So you are the shortsighted one.

Please do explain

Education enables to lead more prosperous lives and contribute more in taxes rather than costing the government money in the long run.

Mugs is right in assessing my views on this subject. You have to look at the benefits in the long run. More taxes are one, also a better educated population will bring more money to the state. Living standards improve, people earning money spend more and support businesses, this goes on and on. It's a win-win situation for the individual and the state.

Ok, you guys make sense, didn't ever think about future taxes, living standards, etc.

 

[aswedc]

Community colleges in CA are that price state wide. It's the cheapest in the entire country.

 

[axelfox]

Originally posted by: Aimster
state budget

Winner.

 

[Ryan]

In florida - scholarships are available to EVERY high school student that graduates with a 3.0 gpa or better. Get a 3.5, and the Bright Futures Scholarship covers 100%, 3.0 and they cover 75%.