Originally posted by: Novgrod
without explaining the bible thing, i can explain the age thing pretty easily:
If you were a Roman, you would have had a life expectancy at birth of 25 or 30. You would have had a 33% chance of dying before you hit age 1. You would have had a DALE (disability-adjusted life expectancy, or number of years you could work) of circa 10 years.
"Doctors" would have had no idea about life and death. Nobody would know that TB is caught from people who have TB, or that malaria is contracted from mosquitoes. You would have pooped in a pot, or in the street.
This lasted for a long, long time. Going back in time it was about the same, only more violent death and less plague (lower population density). Going forward in time it slowly improved as population declined and rose, then it really blew to be alive around the time of the plague.
Eventually people figured out sewers, and then they figured out germ theory, and, well, all the stuff in Civ3, and so life expectancy finally picked up a little. And now we're pretty good. Most people say that the maximum human life is circa 120 years: after that, your body just, well, gives up. This, incidentally, is called the rectangularization of the age pyramid: people are more likely to live to about the same age (right now in america it's really hard to die en masse before age 40).
Hope this helps.
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: Evadman
ok, I will not flame you. Ok, I lied. If you believe that sh!t then you need to get smacked.Originally posted by: BScott881 I was just wondering about that.. The bible says that people around Noah's time lived into thier 800's (for example Methusla sp.) The only explanation from anyone today I've heard is it's because of our lifestyle and mainly our diet. What are your opinions?? BTW, If you don't believe in the bible, don't flame me...
I have to agree with you. The bible is all heresy.
<My opinion>
It was written by a group of people that wanted to explain the unexplainable. I believe that the human race as a whole should just realize that the bible is complete bullsh|t, and forget about it. Technological advances would move a lot faster. For example, in the US, we are not allowed to produce any more embryonic stem cells. I think this is such a stupid law. If the only way to cure an otherwise incurable disease is to use untainted embryonic stem cells, and because of G. Dubya Bush prohibited the experimentation once our supply runs out, I will seek it illegally. I seriously hope someone in his family has a problem like this, and cannot be cured because of this stupid law. Also, cloning should not be illegal. I can't see how their would be a violation of ethics, because if I clone myself, my clone will not be me. It will have my DNA, but not my mind (Identical twins for example).
</My Opinion, puts on flame suit and runs>
Do you seriously believe that Methuselah lived to be well over 900 years old long before the C.E.?As for the 800 years thing. It is incredibly complicated.
Originally posted by: Elemental007
Originally posted by: dman
Originally posted by: Elemental007
To all those that are blaming diet/smoking/etc, I can guarantee you that in a world of 6 billion, there are at least several thousands or perhaps millions of people that don't smoke, don't drink, eat well-balanced proportions of fruits, vegetables, and take daily vitamins, minerals, and have monthly checkups.
How come we don't have anyone that ever lives past 116?
Why? Because the bible is horse sh!t, and if you honestly think that the human lifestyle over 2000 years caused people to lose 80% of their lifespan, you're a dumbass. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that child-bearing age is proportial to the total life span, and humans mature at the same rate they always have.
God granted those in his inner circle time travel abilities. Those who time traveled knew our time period was too horrible to visit so they didn't come this far forward. They ended up just jumping forward about 600yrs or so. So, to the non-time-traveler, it appeared as though some folks were around for 800years. Or not.
The sarcasm meter isn't responding to your post....
Originally posted by: thraashman
You obviously don't read these forums enough if you thought this topic wasn't going to get flamed. As far as the age thing in the Bible, the best explanation I heard was that lifespans in the early New Testament for some people were kept in Lunar Cycles instead of years. So with 13 Lunar cycles a year.
800/13 = 61.5 years. Which would make someone pretty old for that time period.
Then let your other post about Pack and Go die a natural death.Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
I plan to live to be 103.
-- mrcodedude
Originally posted by: Cyberian
What would you think could tempt the average 120 year old?Originally posted by: Yzzim
From that you could possibly get that living longer then 120 years just allows a man to be tempted with sin more.
Originally posted by: thraashman
That's why I said for some people. Time in the Bible never makes sense. Afterall does it really make sense that using Biblical dating methods that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
lol..Originally posted by: Passner
Originally posted by: thraashman
That's why I said for some people. Time in the Bible never makes sense. Afterall does it really make sense that using Biblical dating methods that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Well, the earth is less than 5800 years old if you take the bible at face value. However, a better explanation is that the 6 days of creation are six varying days that encompass all of what the world and universe went through prior to Adam. Interestingly enough, the first humans with the ability to speak much like we do starting popping up around this time, as agreed upon by most archeologists. Coincidence or Yoplait?
Originally posted by: Eli
lol..Originally posted by: Passner
Originally posted by: thraashman
That's why I said for some people. Time in the Bible never makes sense. Afterall does it really make sense that using Biblical dating methods that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Well, the earth is less than 5800 years old if you take the bible at face value. However, a better explanation is that the 6 days of creation are six varying days that encompass all of what the world and universe went through prior to Adam. Interestingly enough, the first humans with the ability to speak much like we do starting popping up around this time, as agreed upon by most archeologists. Coincidence or Yoplait?
But we can prove that things are millions upon millions of years old with carbon dating techniques.
Originally posted by: dolph
another theory is that "years" in the bible don't measure up to years as we measure them. but even if a year was only the equivalent of a season, that's still 242 years for someone like methusala (the oldest person ever according to the bible, i think 969). anyway, point is, people didn't live hundreds of years back then. unless you also believe the earth is only 6000 years old, in which case, don't let me rain on your parade
Originally posted by: Eli
lol..Originally posted by: Passner
Originally posted by: thraashman
That's why I said for some people. Time in the Bible never makes sense. Afterall does it really make sense that using Biblical dating methods that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Well, the earth is less than 5800 years old if you take the bible at face value. However, a better explanation is that the 6 days of creation are six varying days that encompass all of what the world and universe went through prior to Adam. Interestingly enough, the first humans with the ability to speak much like we do starting popping up around this time, as agreed upon by most archeologists. Coincidence or Yoplait?
But we can prove that things are millions upon millions of years old with carbon dating techniques.
Originally posted by: thraashman
That's why I said for some people. Time in the Bible never makes sense. Afterall does it really make sense that using Biblical dating methods that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Heck how much of the Bible makes sense in any way. According to the Bible it's a sin to shave your head.
Lev 19:27 "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
See what I mean.
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: dolph
another theory is that "years" in the bible don't measure up to years as we measure them. but even if a year was only the equivalent of a season, that's still 242 years for someone like methusala (the oldest person ever according to the bible, i think 969). anyway, point is, people didn't live hundreds of years back then. unless you also believe the earth is only 6000 years old, in which case, don't let me rain on your parade
assuming some discrepancy with measurements of time, and assuming 800 years in the bible was approximately 100 in real life, that would make the creation of the universe about 18 hours long, with god resting for 3 hours after that. shrug.
btw, i don't buy this whole 120 years as predicted by the bible thing... especially since the oldest human ever lived to be 122.