Why don't you carry a gun?

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waggy

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I don't go anywhere that i think i need a gun.

I have been thinking of getting a shotgun for home defense and a .22 for fun. every time i save enough up i get hit with a bill.

Those that say "real men don't need a gun" are fucking retarded. Not everyone is built like a tank. why should a older, broken down short guy have to fight a 6'5 youth?

why should i take the risk that guy actually knows what he is doing?
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?
 

Slammy1

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I'd go 9mm for plincking, but that's just personal preference. I've borrowed shotguns for the occasional hunting trip, gone to the range with friends (who all have guns). I like them but, aside from my paranoia about government lists, feel my brain is my best weapon and a gun might stop me from using it.
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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I'm not carrying at the moment because a .357 Magnum is really too big to carry around all the time. I'd like to get a Glock, but damn they're expensive. It's hard to spend that much money on something I really hope will be completely useless.

Check out the Ruger LCP: http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html

Weighs considerably less than a pound when loaded. Small enough to fit in your pocket unless you're wearing skinny jeans.
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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I don't go anywhere that i think i need a gun.

I have been thinking of getting a shotgun for home defense and a .22 for fun. every time i save enough up i get hit with a bill.

Those that say "real men don't need a gun" are fucking retarded. Not everyone is built like a tank. why should a older, broken down short guy have to fight a 6'5 youth?

why should i take the risk that guy actually knows what he is doing?

Only am idiot wants a fair fight.

I'm a scrapper. Always have been. But now I'm getting too old to fight and too fat to run. If things are getting violent, it's because the other guy started it. I have and will smile in his face knowing that I have a surprise waiting just under my shirt.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?

Some people believe those that have bad things happen to them outside the home, must have asked for it. Especially anyone out after the hours of 9pm.
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?

Its a societal stigma.

Guns at home are fine but only criminals carry guns in public. Blame the ignorant media and their blaming guns for crazy people doing crazy things.
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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I'd go 9mm for plincking, but that's just personal preference. I've borrowed shotguns for the occasional hunting trip, gone to the range with friends (who all have guns). I like them but, aside from my paranoia about government lists, feel my brain is my best weapon and a gun might stop me from using it.

.22lr is nice for plinking because it's cheap. Well, it used to be cheap. Now it's less cheap, if you can find it in stock. It's also nice because of low recoil, so you can shoot a thousand rounds in one range visit (if you really want to) and not have a sore wrist or shoulder the next day. The one downside is that rimfire cartridges are usually dirtier than centerfire, so you'll need to clean your .22lr guns more frequently. If you shoot 9mm through a Glock and you're very lazy, you can probably get away with almost never cleaning it.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?

For me it's more more of a PITA to carry. If I could carry without permit, background checks, or anything else, I might occasionally do it. As it is, having weapons in the house is zero hassle, and they can be used for hunting or fun, so it's no problem to have them.

More directly to your question, people are cowards. They like singing jingoistic songs, and don't have a problem sicing the government on someone, but they don't have the balls to handle problems themselves.
 

Slammy1

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If you shoot 9mm through a Glock and you're very lazy, you can probably get away with almost never cleaning it.

You really captured my essence there...

I had a friend with a .357 and recoil reducer that was awesome but expensive. Please forgive my ignorance of guns, if I say something stupid I'm just ignorant. Made big band and big hole but little recoil.

I thought the 9mm was the strongest I could shoot accurately out of all my friends' guns. EDIT: I hated the .38s, but only tried a couple.
 
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JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?

Avoiding potentially dangerous situations in public isn't difficult for the most part. Avoiding them in your own home is impossible. Of course, I've never been the victim of a home invasion crime either but I do own guns.

Anubis summed it up nicely. :thumbsup:

i assume nothing and honestly don't fucking care

People spend way too much time worrying about and preparing for shit that probably will never happen.
 
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boomerang

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Something I've been thinking about. Why does it seem like a lot of people are okay with/participate in home defense, but balk at the idea of carrying in public? Are home invasions much more common than crimes in public? Is your home inherently less safe than a public place?
I'm sure there are stats out there which I don't know, but I would think that the answer is yes. Many criminals wish to avoid a one on one confrontation. Breaking into a home can be as simple as knocking and with no answer, breaking in. There should be lots of stuff to steal. In a face to face out on the streets, the thief is going to be limited to what the victim has in their wallet or purse.

Earlier this week, about 4 miles from me, two guys were going door to door with briefcases in a small residential development. They broke into the first home where no one answered. They had filled multiple pillowcases with items from the home which they stashed behind the house under the deck. The homeowner came home and actually surprised them in the house. They fled leaving behind the items they'd taken and their briefcases.

I live in a semi-rural area where most homes are on 2 1/2 acres or more. Thieves have learned that better neighborhoods have better stuff to steal.
 
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Slammy1

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Jail terms are much more severe for home invasions to deter such activities, last I heard like 2x longer for home vs business. Maybe that's regional.
 

lxskllr

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You just sound like a lazy fuck.

Yup, and yet in some ways I'm less lazy than most. I don't want to be on government lists, and I don't want to jump through hoops to exercise my rights. If I really felt I needed to travel armed, I'd do it, and nobody would know it, including the government.
 

exdeath

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I worked pharma for some pretty regulated chems (the worst you can think of...). Plus advanced degree in chemistry (well, I dropped out of grad school but a fair number of graduate courses says watch out for this guy). EDIT: I get a lot of Walter White jokes.

Formalin, ammonia, nitric acid

Distilled to 99.9% of course, not the 5% OTC stuff.
 
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Carson Dyle

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Yup, and yet in some ways I'm less lazy than most. I don't want to be on government lists, and I don't want to jump through hoops to exercise my rights. If I really felt I needed to travel armed, I'd do it, and nobody would know it, including the government.

Paranoid AND lazy. I know some weed growers just like you. (Ads are a security risk, eh? Clueless too.)
 

lxskllr

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Paranoid AND lazy. I know some weed growers just like you. (Ads are a security risk, eh? Clueless too.)

If you want to go through life being a dumb wise and beautiful woman, don't let me stop you. I suggest you ignore my posts in the future. You might inadvertently learn something. They make software controls to do it for you automatically, so even the least capable amongst us can ignore users. You'll probably want to try that.
 

Slammy1

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Formalin, ammonia, nitric acid

Distilled to 99.9% of course, not the 5% OTC stuff.

More like mass spec grade. Less than 5 9s is pretty low purity and ghost peaks.

EDIT: I mean the reagents, but the similar but higher priced commodity I used to test was >99.9.
 

MtnMan

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Jul 27, 2004
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I don't go anywhere that i think i need a gun.

I have been thinking of getting a shotgun for home defense and a .22 for fun. every time i save enough up i get hit with a bill.

Those that say "real men don't need a gun" are fucking retarded. Not everyone is built like a tank. why should a older, broken down short guy have to fight a 6'5 youth?

why should i take the risk that guy actually knows what he is doing?
So you don't go to drug stores, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants, malls, or stop at any traffic lights for fear of being carjacked, or to your living room to watch TV?

I live in a small city that most 'think' is safe, yet there are several armed home invasions a month, pharmacies are robbed more and more often for drugs, the latest where a customer was grabbed as a hostage, etc. etc.

I'm too old to fight even a 6' 20 year old, even though I'm 6', and sure as hell can outrun them, but they can't outrun a .40S&W 180 grain hollow point round.

I used the cost as an excuse for far too long, but looking back it wasn't a wise choice, even though I was never a victim, while I was ignoring my responsibility to protect my family. I demanded they wear seat-belts (before it was law), and always had working smoke detectors and extinguishers in the home, but nothing to defend against an armed intruder. You seldom get a 'do over' with any of these.
 
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