Why has race relations worsened under a Black President?

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Jaskalas

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Looking at that, "race relations" didn't drop until more recently with Tayvon Martin and especially Michael Brown. You know, two standout pillars of society. Seems people rallying around violent attempted murderers doesn't settle well.
 

Strk

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Because he is black, not magic.

He has also continued a lot of the same policies that hurt black people in particular (drug war).
 

CitizenKain

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Because a lot of white people (Republicans) really resent a black person having the gall to try and be president.
 

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So then, how does this all connect to Obama? Why does he — one president in 43 — remain so central to so many of our assessments of race relations?

Ultimately the answer might lie in Obama's own words. In 2004, when Obama was just a Senate candidate from Illinois delivering the Democratic Convention keynote speech, he described an America in which many people want very much to believe.

"There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America," he said.

That ideal, it seems, has been very difficult to turn into a reality.

Because....


Barry made a statement that is 'color blind', but reality shows folks just stick with their own kind.
 

JEDI

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Because....


Barry made a statement that is 'color blind', but reality shows folks just stick with their own kind.

so why has that happened under a black presidents watch?
even under Bush Jr, race relations was better.

and we all know Bush jr doesn't like black people
 

Sonikku

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Because back in 2000 not everybody was carrying a video recorder. You think this crap hasn't been happening for centuries? Modern technology just wasn't available to put a microscope over it.
 
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so why has that happened under a black presidents watch?
even under Bush Jr, race relations was better.

and we all know Bush jr doesn't like black people

Let me ask you this honestly. Do you think the fact that he is a, as you say, a black President contributed to more or less people becoming more overt in their racism in the last 7 years?

Also now that everyone has a camera on them at all times have we been able to witness more or less acts of institutional racism?

Have people, particularly on the right side of the political spectrum, been claiming racism doesn't exist more or less in the last ten years stifling any honest discussion on the topic?

I'm asking this honestly if you have noticed anything at all that would be described as wide spread racism towards the leader of your country?
 
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brianmanahan

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Because back in 2000 not everybody was carrying a video recorder. You think this crap hasn't been happening for centuries? Modern technology just wasn't available to put a microscope over it.

exactly. affordable portable video recorders plus simple video distribution to billions of people.

it brings light to things which only few people would see before.
 

BurnItDwn

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I think race relations are improving, instead of being in some sort of racial cold war, people are actually finally speaking up and demanding their rights.

Look at the Black Lives Matter movement for example. Instead of all the horrible shit that racists do being hidden /in the closet, the dirty laundry instead is on display for all to see.
 

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so why has that happened under a black presidents watch?
even under Bush Jr, race relations was better.

and we all know Bush jr doesn't like black people

It is not that it has happened since Barry - it is that it has always been this way.

People didn't start stick with their own on the day Barry got into the Oval office.

Bottom line, you can't pin this on Obama. This is more about correlation than causation. Similarly to employment numbers - he can't take credit for them (good and bad - or in the case of his critics; bad, but never good).
 

master_shake_

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Above graphs look like 'Hope and Change' to you?

Uno

what i meant was, as others above have pointed out, people recording people has been on a meteoric rise since the advent of cheap recording equipment.

had we had all the same tech years ago i'm sure the number would never been that high.

so as i said this is a survey and people only know what they are shown/told. so the spike around 2009 would never have existed.

referring to graph in op
 

Subyman

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Egregious behavior that was once hidden has now come to light. Obama really didn't have much to do with it except recommending police use more video.

If you want to erroneously attribute things to Obama then it is more along the lines of "Obama has made policing more transparent and illuminated the corruption."
 

senseamp

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Smartphones. Note the last time race relations plunged was during Rodney King video. Now we have one of those every week.
 

JackBurton

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I think race relations are improving, instead of being in some sort of racial cold war, people are actually finally speaking up and demanding their rights.

Look at the Black Lives Matter movement for example. Instead of all the horrible shit that racists do being hidden /in the closet, the dirty laundry instead is on display for all to see.

The Black Lives Matter "movement" is one of the biggest race baiting, racist organizations that refuse to address the REAL problems in the black community. You want something that is doing a disservice to the black community, that's a great example. You also want an example of something creating a bigger problem with race relations, you can use that movement an example as well.
 

Thebobo

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The Black Lives Matter "movement" is one of the biggest race baiting, racist organizations that refuse to address the REAL problems in the black community. You want something that is doing a disservice to the black community, that's a great example. You also want an example of something creating a bigger problem with race relations, you can use that movement an example as well.

Because they don't like being murdered by cops they are racist?

If you are going to say black on black violence yes thats a problem but they are not shooting each other because they are black. That's the difference.
 

JEDI

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The Black Lives Matter "movement" is one of the biggest race baiting, racist organizations that refuse to address the REAL problems in the black community. You want something that is doing a disservice to the black community, that's a great example. You also want an example of something creating a bigger problem with race relations, you can use that movement an example as well.

How are they making the problem bigger?
 

IGBT

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the obama is a out and out racist along with being Ameriphobic. The obama has a front and center reserved seat at the Jeremiah Wright hate and discontent Ameriphobic sermons disguised as a religious gathering. So no wonder or surprise the Oval Office has become the center of hate / discontent and grievous mongering in the US.
 

JackBurton

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Because they don't like being murdered by cops they are racist?

If you are going to say black on black violence yes thats a problem but they are not shooting each other because they are black. That's the difference.

Please quit with the "murder" bullshit. They are being shot because of their shit lifestyle that final caught up to them. Whites are being shot as well, and I dare say the last one didn't even have a rap sheet. No uproar, no protesting, and DEFINITELY no rioting and burning down communities. You act like that, and people will create a barrier between themselves and a pattern they see. It's as simple as that. The black community has a HUGE cultural problem that is creating these problem. Disrespect for all, ALWAYS placing the blame on others, and shutting down other black people that TRY to lead them in the right direction. This is a black problem, not a white, Asian or any other races problem.

All BLM is doing is creating MORE racism because ALL races see it for what it is, the black community not wanting to take responsibility for their actions. And the black people that speak out against this BS are called "coons, house niggas" and whatever other derogatory name to try and stifle them. I garantee you, BLM is creating a MUCH larger racial devide despite what the agenda driven media is making it out to be. People have learned NOT to say anything in fear of being called a "racist." So what they do is sit back and watch. But rest assured, people are assessing the situation MUCH differently than what the media is making it out to be.
 
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