Why has Warner Bros failed w/DC Comics where as Disney has succeeded with Marvel?

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Skel

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Because, clearly the Spiderman movies didn't print fucking gold for Sony...

Hell, even Punisher made money ($55m vs a $35m budget).

Just because a movie made money doesn't mean it's good... I think the point they were making was because DC has been crapping out crappy movies doesn't mean that everything Marvel does is stupid awesome.
 

zinfamous

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I don't fucking care how much money they made, they all pretty much sucked

The first 2 were very good; I think the 2nd one is one of the best superhero movies to date (though Defoe in the first one is mustard for the whole series)

all of those Raimi films are tainted by the 3rd film which, though unfair, is certainly understandable.
 

momeNt

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I actually haven't seen any of the Christopher Reeve's superman movies, but the past 2 Superman movies I did not like very much. I much prefer Smallville, lot of depth into the development of Superman. Man of Steel gave me very little of that, as someone said earlier, the scenes with Johnathan Kent and Jor El were good, and him discovering himself was good, but the fight scenes left me bored.
 

smackababy

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All you need to know about Superman 2 was if you work for a company as a software developer, you can have fractions of a cent, rather than being rounded off, put into a separate account you own and make a ton of money. At least, according to Office Space.
 

SP33Demon

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Yeah, they do. :\ Honestly, I'm not sure why. His character doesn't really come across as this conflicted individual... he just comes across as a petulant, whiny child that is prone to tantrums.



Thinking about it... don't the worst Marvel movies usually involve some silly, contrived dance scene? Spider-Man 3 had the silly emo Peter dance scene. Fantastic Four 2 had the silly Mr. Fantastic club dance scene. Iron Man 2 had the silly birthday party dance scene (more like watermelon skeet shooting, but close enough! ).

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What exactly do you mean. Are you saying that you like the fact that they turned Killian -- who wasn't much more than a woman scorned -- into a villain, or that they were willing to change The Mandarin. ...and I haven't seen the one shot, because I won't pay anything more than $5 for the Iron Man 3 Blu-ray... maybe $8 if I'm feeling really good. Although, I do own Iron Man 2, so I can't say much. :\

He's saying that the Mandarin actually exists in the Marvel movieverse. From wiki:
Ben Kingsley reprises his role as Slattery in the Marvel One-Shot short All Hail the King.[57] In this film, Slattery is an inmate at Seagate Prison being interviewed by Jack Norriss, a filmmaker documenting his life. However, in a plot twist, it is revealed that Norriss is a member of the real Ten Rings organization led by the original user of the Mandarin mantle, and that they are angered by Killian and Slattery making a mockery of their beliefs. He kidnaps Slattery from the prison, telling him that the real Mandarin wants to meet him.
 

Skel

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I actually haven't seen any of the Christopher Reeve's superman movies, but the past 2 Superman movies I did not like very much. I much prefer Smallville, lot of depth into the development of Superman. Man of Steel gave me very little of that, as someone said earlier, the scenes with Johnathan Kent and Jor El were good, and him discovering himself was good, but the fight scenes left me bored.

I didn't care for Smallville as it was the makers going out of their way to pull in stuff from the comics without having it be Superman. One of the issues I've seen with DC is highlighted with Smallville. They refused to put him in costume and call him Superman because it would look stupid, but insisted on bringing in things like Darkseid.. of course they also butchered him too as it might be too "comicbook" if they used him as intended.

All you need to know about Superman 2 was if you work for a company as a software developer, you can have fractions of a cent, rather than being rounded off, put into a separate account you own and make a ton of money. At least, according to Office Space.

I'm 99% sure you're mixing up 2 with 3.. 3 had Pryor playing the dev. Superman 2 had Zod.
 

KeithTalent

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I fought The Mandarin in Marvel Heroes on the weekend. I was hoping he would turn into Ben Kingsley when I killed him, but sadly, it did not happen.

KT
 

Skel

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What exactly do you mean. Are you saying that you like the fact that they turned Killian -- who wasn't much more than a woman scorned -- into a villain, or that they were willing to change The Mandarin. ...and I haven't seen the one shot, because I won't pay anything more than $5 for the Iron Man 3 Blu-ray... maybe $8 if I'm feeling really good. Although, I do own Iron Man 2, so I can't say much. :\

I watched it here.. http://rutube.ru/video/5ef816ffefe2aeec3fbdf4d2d290cd5d/
 

BoberFett

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Warner Brothers turns them all into dark, brooding characters in dark, brooding worlds. The movies are depressing. The early Batman movies and the Superman movies were awful. The Batman movies were filmed in a manner to suggest that the producers were pressed for cash and decided to skimp on the light bill. Super heroes should be a bit more fun.

The first Keaton Batman movie is still one of the best superhero movies ever.
 
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