Why hasn't the GOP repealed Obamacare and where is their alternative Health plan?

[Jhhnn]

I thought we were clear on their plan....

Don't get sick.... and if you get sick die quickly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-usmvYOPfco&t=1m6s




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And they'll pay for that by increasing middle class taxes & cutting taxes for the wealthy-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/...shot&nl_art=2&nlid=69083013&ref=headline&te=1

It's top down class warfare in the post-truth era.

 

[Sea Ray]

Bullshit. Several providers are offering exchange plans in Ohio-

http://www.insurance.ohio.gov/Consumer/Pages/FederalHealthReformFAQs.aspx

People can enroll regardless of income. Individual plans & exchange plans are different in name only.

Didn't we already establish that I make too much money to qualify for the exchange?

 

[Sea Ray]

Bullshit. Several providers are offering exchange plans in Ohio-

http://www.insurance.ohio.gov/Consumer/Pages/FederalHealthReformFAQs.aspx

People can enroll regardless of income. Individual plans & exchange plans are different in name only.

Once again you're showing that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You think you can just throw up a gov't website and say "here, I told you so". I'm on the ground living in the real world. I have individual agents whose job it is to sell me insurance tell me that I have no choice. But since you continue to doubt me, here you go:

Hancock County — and 19 other counties in Ohio — are left with just one carrier selling insurance under Obamacare, an indication the federal health insurance law has not kept its promises, Ohio Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor told The Courier on Wednesday.

http://thecourier.com/local-news/2017/01/12/lt-gov-says-obamacare-not-working/

Brush up on the facts and then come back and talk about this as an adult.

 

[Jhhnn]

Once again you're showing that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You think you can just throw up a gov't website and say "here, I told you so". I'm on the ground living in the real world. I have individual agents whose job it is to sell me insurance tell me that I have no choice. But since you continue to doubt me, here you go:

Hancock County — and 19 other counties in Ohio — are left with just one carrier selling insurance under Obamacare, an indication the federal health insurance law has not kept its promises, Ohio Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor told The Courier on Wednesday.

http://thecourier.com/local-news/2017/01/12/lt-gov-says-obamacare-not-working/

Brush up on the facts and then come back and talk about this as an adult.

You're right. My mistake. It seems clear, however, that this has been forced by the Repubs-

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/17/Congress-Weakens-Obamacare-Limiting-Bailout-Funds-Insurers

Insurers drop out of riskier markets because the govt reneges on promises to pay.

 

[Meghan54]

You're right. My mistake. It seems clear, however, that this has been forced by the Repubs-

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/17/Congress-Weakens-Obamacare-Limiting-Bailout-Funds-Insurers

Insurers drop out of riskier markets because the govt reneges on promises to pay.

And this was the whole problem...Republican sure found the funding to pay for the Medicare Prescription Ins. for the 3 years it took for that marketplace to become stable and competitive, but when the same funding for the ACA came due (and its stop-gap funding was written into the ACA legislation just like it was in the Medicare Prescrip. plan--same duration of 3 years, etc.), the Repubs. in Congress sorta forgot to fund it.

Hence, the premiums were hiked significantly to offset this. But get anyone to understand this, and it's like talking to a dog turd.

 

[Sea Ray]

You're right. My mistake. It seems clear, however, that this has been forced by the Repubs-

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/17/Congress-Weakens-Obamacare-Limiting-Bailout-Funds-Insurers

Insurers drop out of riskier markets because the govt reneges on promises to pay.

So the problem is that insurance companies aren't getting enough bailout funds from the tax payers? Seriously? That's the big problem with Obamacare? Try to sell that one politically. They're not making enough from my $1450/mo. They need more from the FEDs.

Republicans cannot be blamed for anything in Obamacare. It was passed (forced through) by Democrats without a single GOP vote and unlike today's situation, Republicans couldn't even stop it with a filibuster. Every word of that law is on Dems.

 

[Sea Ray]

And this was the whole problem...Republican sure found the funding to pay for the Medicare Prescription Ins. for the 3 years it took for that marketplace to become stable and competitive, but when the same funding for the ACA came due (and its stop-gap funding was written into the ACA legislation just like it was in the Medicare Prescrip. plan--same duration of 3 years, etc.), the Repubs. in Congress sorta forgot to fund it.

Hence, the premiums were hiked significantly to offset this. But get anyone to understand this, and it's like talking to a dog turd.

If this law depended upon Republicans to fund it then it wasn't written very well and it was poor politics for the Dems to force it through without any bipartisan support. You reap what you sow.

 

[pcgeek11]

I believe the House voted to repeal Obamacare more than a couple of times during the Obama years. How come they haven't repealed it already since they control the Legislative and Executive branch and why isn't there an alternative plan yet?

Patience my child. Quality takes time.

 

[Jhhnn]

If this law depended upon Republicans to fund it then it wasn't written very well and it was poor politics for the Dems to force it through without any bipartisan support. You reap what you sow.

At the time, it was all about breaking the Kenyan usurper-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHV4nDS501Y

Whatever Obama & the dems wanted, the answer was no. when that failed, they set out to make the program fail regardless of who it hurt.

 

[glenn1]

Yes, I'm sure he's never driven on a public road or used the education system at all.

Evidently you have the typical progressive 1st grade level understanding of public goods and either don't know the difference between rivalrous and excludable goods or more likely just don't care. One day maybe you'll develop enough intelligence to understand why equating your healthcare with public roads is a truly stupid argument but I rather doubt it. Until then if I'm lucky I'll be able to enjoy some of you dying in the streets and say "cha-ching!"

Wishing death on members twice in the same thread. That's a definite no.
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[JSt0rm]

Evidently you have the typical progressive 1st grade level understanding of public goods and either don't know the difference between rivalrous and excludable goods or more likely just don't care. One day maybe you'll develop enough intelligence to understand why equating your healthcare with public roads is a truly stupid argument but I rather doubt it. Until then if I'm lucky I'll be able to enjoy some of you dying in the streets and say "cha-ching!"

Healthcare is a human right.

 

[HomerJS]

Patience my child. Quality takes time.

Trump disagrees with you

Trump’s Call For ‘Quick’ Obamacare Replacement Complicates GOP Efforts

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...e-replacement-complicates-gop-efforts-n705371

 

[glenn1]

Healthcare is a human right.

LOL, sure it is. I could just as easily say and with just as much legal authority that it's my human right to be able to enjoy watching poor progressives die in agony while I look up the best flights to Hawaii.

 

[First]

They don't have one. See sig.

 

[senseamp]

If this law depended upon Republicans to fund it then it wasn't written very well and it was poor politics for the Dems to force it through without any bipartisan support. You reap what you sow.

Now GOP owns it.

 

[pcgeek11]

Trump disagrees with you

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...e-replacement-complicates-gop-efforts-n705371

And...

 

[Fanatical Meat]

LOL, sure it is. I could just as easily say and with just as much legal authority that it's my human right to be able to enjoy watching poor progressives die in agony while I look up the best flights to Hawaii.

Admittedly I'm making a broad assumption however you seem like the type of guy that says to people earning minimum wage they need to do what successful people do, which is good advice. When it comes to healthcare you seem to want to copy what all the loser 3rd/4th world countries do.

 

[Meghan54]

Admittedly I'm making a broad assumption however you seem like the type of guy that says to people earning minimum wage they need to do what successful people do, which is good advice. When it comes to healthcare you seem to want to copy what all the loser 3rd/4th world countries do.

Well, he can't help himself....you pointed that out above. LOSER. But you forgot to include psychopathic loser, as in wanting to kill or watch others die because they're poor.? That's certifiable level psycho loser.

 

[Sea Ray]

Now GOP owns it.

Probably not. Given the fact that the GOP doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate it stands to reason that the new healthcare bill will have to be bipartisan. Unlike Obamacare, there's no way this can be passed on a strict party line vote

 

[JSt0rm]

LOL, sure it is. I could just as easily say and with just as much legal authority that it's my human right to be able to enjoy watching poor progressives die in agony while I look up the best flights to Hawaii.

"poor progressives" lol. Most liberals who think about such things are in a good place. For instance I pay 0 for my healthcare out of pocket. I have a $5 copay for physical therapy. And $20 co pay for doctor visits. But I realize having a healthy society is in my interests. Having people able to move around the job market or take a risk opening a business because they arent worried about healthcare is good for your pocket book. Not that I expect a simple bitch like you to understand that.

 

[senseamp]

Probably not. Given the fact that the GOP doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate it stands to reason that the new healthcare bill will have to be bipartisan. Unlike Obamacare, there's no way this can be passed on a strict party line vote

They still own it, legislative trivia is their problem. Most people don't care about it. They just know if they lose insurance, and who is in office when it happens. Democrats may help them if it aligns with their agenda, but ultimately it's GOP's responsibility now.

 

[Sea Ray]

They still own it, legislative trivia is their problem. Most people don't care about it. They just know if they lose insurance, and who is in office when it happens. Democrats may help them if it aligns with their agenda, but ultimately it's GOP's responsibility now.

It is largely the GOP's responsibility but it is different than Obamacare. The GOP will have to throw in some goodies in order to get those 8 Dem votes they'll need. That will give them cover that Obama didn't have. Like with most legislation, there will be winners and losers. If people like me see their bills go down, we'll vote Republican. The folks who want freebies from the gov't, be it birth control or Medicaid, probably won't vote Republican anyway. Just ask Mitt Romney...

 

[Homerboy]

"poor progressives" lol. Most liberals who think about such things are in a good place. For instance I pay 0 for my healthcare out of pocket. I have a $5 copay for physical therapy. And $20 co pay for doctor visits. But I realize having a healthy society is in my interests. Having people able to move around the job market or take a risk opening a business because they arent worried about healthcare is good for your pocket book. Not that I expect a simple bitch like you to understand that.

My wife and I have had several opportunities/ideas to open small businesses. The #1 thing that stopped us was insurance for our family. There's some pre-existing conditions which made any rates we could even get astronomical.

 

[JSt0rm]

My wife and I have had several opportunities/ideas to open small businesses. The #1 thing that stopped us was insurance for our family. There's some pre-existing conditions which made any rates we could even get astronomical.

See you were robbed of your dreams because of assholes. This country can be great but we have these fucking simple peasants dragging us down.

 

[HomerJS]

And...

and since Trump said it can be done quickly it should have been ready to go.

In reality Republicans were never interested in healthcare reform. Repeal and replace was just a sound bite and the repeal votes were easy since they weren't going to have to own replace.

They got it now.