WHY HATE ISLAM AND MUSLIMS !!!

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LanFear

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Originally posted by: LanFear


Religious fanatacism is at the root of most problems around the world, think about it.

"If there even is a god, he's not doing good work. We have drivebys, rape, murder, famine, genocide, terrorism, corruption at the highest levels of business and gov't and all sorts of other shit. Clearly god has failed, he's given up. Looking around you don't see the work of a supreme being, it's more like the work of an office temp with a bad attitude." --George Carlin that's paraphrased but pretty close

And i'm not singling muslims out, religious fanatacism on all fronts has gotten way out of control, not to mention outdated.

 

hysperion

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Tell me 1 good reason why most of you hate muslims and islam.

Most of us don't hate muslims and islam troll.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Eli
I don't hate them.


They're lost, confused.. just like any other hard core religious zealot.

And apparently just like you.

You think you're so right? You think Islam is the only way to think? Wake up.

Every religion says every other religion is wrong. From a 3rd person point of view, that means they are all wrong.

Who are YOU to say that western culture is "obscene"? From my point of view, Islamic culture is obscene.

You can't keep people from human nature. Sex is a primal instinct, it is not evil.

Aye.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Abhi
Try sharing a country with them !!! You ll hate em too ! In india, each muslim couple has 5-6 children, and they cant even afford to pay for their food.

Muslims need to start making less babies and educate those babies they make...

and everyone in "YOUR" country that is not Muslim is doing so much better.
 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Abhi
Try sharing a country with them !!! You ll hate em too ! In india, each muslim couple has 5-6 children, and they cant even afford to pay for their food.

Muslims need to start making less babies and educate those babies they make...

and everyone in "YOUR" country that is not Muslim is doing so much better.

All of a sudden I think Pakistan was a good idea after all. Some Hindus are so hateful.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: carldon

You're kiddin' right. Has there ever been a grudge match, and Batman won????

Actually they have faught a few times. Most of the time batman wins the fight.

superman is to much of a goody-goody. where batman does not fight fair.
 

cucumber

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Originally posted by: nvfx

But my case is excpetional, since my brain is already influenced with the obsene western culture, it is difficult but not impossible for me to get on the right track.

The purpose of this thread is to create an awareness b/w people and to explain them that Islam and muslims are peaceful.

Terrosists or extremists may be using Islam for thier own benefits but a true muslim is the one who belives in Allah(God) and the Prophet (P.B.U.H) and the Holy book Quran.

But tieing a bomb on your waste and blowing yourself is not an easy task.

we all get amazed to see people diving from a 200 meter cliff in the water.

But ever imagined what it feels like blowing youself with a powerful bomb.


How many non-muslims can do that...


I find this very disturbing. You ask why we hate muslims (and in general, we don't. This is just your blanket assumption. )

It is you who is being hatefull here. Casually calling western culture "obscene" without any consideration that ways other than yours might not be evil shows your hatred.

Then you imply that suicide bombers are brave and this bravery comes from being islamic

"How many non-muslims can do that... "

This is not bravery. This is insanity. You also fail to see that there have been plenty of suicidal war tactics used by others besides muslims. One example being the Japanese in WW2......

I am glad to see that you do seperate the fanatical terrorists from what Islam is supposed to be, but before you assume the west hates Islam, look at your own beliefs first.

Why do you hate the west? You likely think that you don't, but if you feel the west is "obscene", isn't that hating or at least disliking the west?

Understanding and accepting cultures and their differences goes both ways. You must accept and tolerate us just as much as you expect us to accept you.
 

BespinReactorShaft

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: carldon

You're kiddin' right. Has there ever been a grudge match, and Batman won????

Actually they have faught a few times. Most of the time batman wins the fight.

superman is to much of a goody-goody. where batman does not fight fair.


Something to do with Batman wearing a jockstrap while Superman doesn't?

 

cquark

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Every religion on earth condemns every other religion. You're sounding extremely hypocritical.

You need to look beyond the Abrahamic religions. While those are intolerant, many other types of religion are happy to accept the gods and beliefs of other religions as valid manifestations of the divine.
 

nietsni3

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i see it s obvious taht after thsi thread people here dont hate muslim not only becuz of the terrorists
 

wkabel23

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If you want to say religon is resposible for the mass murder of tons of people throughout history, then we can blame Christianity and Islam or whatever else all day. However, this is a false idea, people were responsible for the Crusades, suicide bombers, etc. People used and continue to use religon to manipulate others. I don't hate any religons...I don't feel threatened by them and I respect their beliefs. However, I do hate people who manipulate others via religion.

Every religion has its fundamentalists, they aren't just relegated to Islam. I think the OP is trying to say that we shouldn't hate Muslims but we should hate the people, like OBL who use Islam as a tool to further their agenda of hate.
 

bigal40

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i am going to look at your essay line by line and tell you where you are wrong.

"Tell me 1 good reason why most of you hate muslims and islam."
i could give you many reasons but heres a good one 9/11. you ggonna say "o only the extremist muslims do that stuff" well from what i can tell all muslims support the extremists. the extremists are your clerics your rulers. how many muslims countries are fighting against terror in order to make the world a more peaceful place since the koran teaches islam to be such a peaceful religion.


"When you dont even believe in your own religion, do you think its nice to blame other religions."
thatline doesn't make much sense but your saying i don't believe in catholisism even though i am catholic and instead of blaming catholics for 9/11 i blamed islam? whatever.

"Its not Islam which is bad, its the people making Islam look bad."
the people making islam look bad are the extremeists. the extremists are bad. the extremist follow islam. therefore islam is bad.

"Islam, which deserves to be called a RELIGION and not something like a crap."
islam is a religion; just not well liked by other beacause of the evilacts is followers perform

"The Holy Quran, set forth 1400 years ago explains the mysteries of this world we live in."
mysterys such as what? how about some examples?

"Infact, modern science used the Holy Quran for achieving things which were considered impossible."
modern scince uses the koran? i don't think so. again some examples

"The reason why muslims are so hated today is because they have left thier religion."
ok if that is true then you have a point. we have a reason to hate muslims, maybe not islam but the people that practice islam, the islam which you are saying is not real

"Agree with me or not, the day of jugdement is near and the time is not for the muslims."
i'll get back tothis line in a little bit

"Jews are the ones in the perfect spot BUT as a muslim i know that this world will end when all the population is muslim."
ok now compare these last two lines. you say the day of judgement is near yet you say the day of judgement will be when all of the world is muslim. I hate to tell you this but i know i won't live until your day of judgement because i and many other's will never become muslim.

"The best thing about Islam is that it doesnt force you to quit your belief or religion, unlike Jews who forced the poor muslims to convert into jews in the early years."
read tghe koran buddy. I have not read it in its entirerty but after 9/11 i wanted to learn what this religion was really all about. your prophet mohammed was a terrorist. here is a quote." Then God sent down to him: "Fight them so that there be no more seduction," i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. "And the religion is God's,", i.e. Until God alone is worshipped."
[a] Sura 22:39-41 Sura 2:193]
here is a story of mohammed ordering the death of jews
"The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'"
Sunan of Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2996
as you see your primary prophet mohammed was himself a terorist. If the best hing about islam is that they don't force you to follow the religion whats the worst thing about islam?

"But as it seems now, the only thing which muslims can do to safegaurd thier religion is to study the Quran thoroughly and learn the technology of the Western world"
thats right cause if you try and pull any more terrorist stunts to "preserve" you religion your going to end up dead.
"While recently i saw posts on head scarfs... whats the big deal here.

Whats the problem if a girl wears a scarf when playing..... that has nothing to do with her performance or anything else.

Its good to wear scarfs.

just to give you an example...

If a lady wears full clothes and scarfs, the opposite sex wont get tempted at all since he can't feel the women cause she is not exposing her body.

On the other hand, girls wearing skin clothes will easily attract flocks of men for the thing which is your life "sex".

Ok, so you can give me examples of thousands of muslims who dont obey Islam.

So for all those women, not wearing full clothes or scarfs arent familiar with islam at all.

take my exapmle, i am living i na muslim country but i am a a muslim just by name. I feel so miserable when i get asked for daily prayers.
But my case is excpetional, since my brain is already influenced with the obsene western culture, it is difficult but not impossible for me to get on the right track."
theses lines all go together and i will just say that forcing women to wear scarfs is unacceptable. If the women wantto then let them. If they want to wear it to get a drivers lisnce photo taken then they can get lost. as far as we know youe have osama bin laden under that scarf getting his drivers lisence.

"The purpose of this thread is to create an awareness b/w people and to explain them that Islam and muslims are peaceful."
the purpose of my post is to show how full of lies islam is and to keep unsuspecting americans from reading these lies and symphasising with the beloved patriot muslims.

"Terrosists or extremists may be using Islam for thier own benefits but a true muslim is the one who belives in Allah(God) and the Prophet (P.B.U.H) and the Holy book Quran."
as i said above why don't you do anything to prevent the terrorists from attack inocent people

"But tieing a bomb on your waste and blowing yourself is not an easy task.

How many non-muslims can do that...

we all get amazed to see people diving from a 200 meter cliff in the water.

But ever imagined what it feels like blowing youself with a powerful bomb."
I really don't think blowing yourself up with a bomb would hurt that much. in fact i doubt you would feel anything at all. tying a bomb to yourself is not an act of bravery it is an act of cowardeness. Instead of fighting against soldiers you go into a crowd of unsuspecting innocencivilians and kill them.

I hope by reading this you see what is islam really is and that it is not a peaceful religion.












 

Teatowel

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As a Muslim, and a fairly strict one at that, I see the person who started this thread as slightly confused, dangerous, and not knowing an awful lot about Islam and the world we all live in.

Tying a bomb to your waist is not a sign of being strong, or brave, just being a murderer. Killing civilians is a crime in every culture and religion, including Islam. People like you really do Islam a terrible injustice, and it's people like you who are responsible for the terrible and unjustified reputation the Islam has.

The feeling you get blowing yourself up with a bomb? Severe pain, followed by eternity in hell, with the rest of the world laughing at you.

Rather than rise to what this bloke is saying, we should just ignore him.

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: ming2020
"Religion is the perversion of spirituality through the institutions of man."

Filesystemcheck-ing A.



Something to do with Batman wearing a jockstrap while Superman doesn't?

Something to do with the fact that kryptonite affects the boyscout, but not the detective.

And I must say, the batman/superman combo is turning out to be an interesting comic.
 

gamefreakgcb

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Didnt read the entire thread but since Im extensively studied on Islam I can tell the first post is still half-assed. To kill is not the teaching of Islam infact it condemns killing. The muslims are ordered to preach and not just preach but preach with love and care for the others while following their preachings. The terrorists who kill people and yet claim to be muslim are not muslim. As they killed innocent people and even killing one puts a person in hell for millions of years muslim or not. Its true muslims today are suffering because they are off their religeon. 95% of the muslims dont even know what prayer is. The single most powerful thing in Islam and is believed to be the key to the treasures of God. And as for people calling the prophet things, have no proof whatsoever why they are doing so. You say muslims treat women as property? Before Islam came in the women where not even considered human. They were treated worse then animals for god's sake. Islam bought dignity into a woman's life and gave them right to inherit from their parents or husbands. Let me give you an exmaple of how women were treated before Islam. If a woman's husband died in some places they burn the bodies, the widow was to burn with the husband. You say free women out of houses? Well doing that breaks down the entire house. The whole family system crumbles because of letting women free. The children are truted to Day Care Centers and babysitter and maids. The children grow up this way with nothing but suppressed hatred for their parents which leads to parents being forced to Retire houses and so forth. Islam orders you to take care of your parents the way they took care of you when you were growing up. Do you ever stop and think how hard it is to take care of a baby? Feed them, clean them and watch over them. And they stay for you when you are sick all night. Infact it is considered a major sin to just say 'Oh' or "damn" and stuff like to them or to raise your voice in front of them. And you still say Islam is a load of bull that tells muslims to just kill people? Islam is a made up religeon? Lets talk about the "bible". Once it was a true book but after the prophet bearing it died people started changing it to their liking. So NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY GOD MADE MISTAKES IN THE BOOK AND WE ARE JUST CORRECTING THEM? Thats the biggest load of bull ever. You say Jesus died? God can die too? I didnt know that. Muslims believe in Jesus but not as a God but as a true prophet. I dont have much time right now but what I have typed is not even the tip of the iceberg people. Islam is a lot more then just meets the eye or what terrorist are naming it as.
 

Abhi

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Abhi
Try sharing a country with them !!! You ll hate em too ! In india, each muslim couple has 5-6 children, and they cant even afford to pay for their food.

Muslims need to start making less babies and educate those babies they make...

and everyone in "YOUR" country that is not Muslim is doing so much better.


Well... actually... they are!!

Growth rate of Hindus(Majority) is close to 20% .... as against 36% of muslims...

And and btw... I am neither a hindu, nor a muslim.
 

Abhi

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Originally posted by: hatim
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Abhi
Try sharing a country with them !!! You ll hate em too ! In india, each muslim couple has 5-6 children, and they cant even afford to pay for their food.

Muslims need to start making less babies and educate those babies they make...

and everyone in "YOUR" country that is not Muslim is doing so much better.

All of a sudden I think Pakistan was a good idea after all. Some Hindus are so hateful.

What exactly makes you think i am a hindu?

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: gamefreakgcb
Didnt read the entire thread but since Im extensively studied on Islam I can tell the first post is still half-assed. To kill is not the teaching of Islam infact it condemns killing. The muslims are ordered to preach and not just preach but preach with love and care for the others while following their preachings. The terrorists who kill people and yet claim to be muslim are not muslim. As they killed innocent people and even killing one puts a person in hell for millions of years muslim or not. Its true muslims today are suffering because they are off their religeon. 95% of the muslims dont even know what prayer is. The single most powerful thing in Islam and is believed to be the key to the treasures of God. And as for people calling the prophet things, have no proof whatsoever why they are doing so. You say muslims treat women as property? Before Islam came in the women where not even considered human. They were treated worse then animals for god's sake. Islam bought dignity into a woman's life and gave them right to inherit from their parents or husbands. Let me give you an exmaple of how women were treated before Islam. If a woman's husband died in some places they burn the bodies, the widow was to burn with the husband. You say free women out of houses? Well doing that breaks down the entire house. The whole family system crumbles because of letting women free. The children are truted to Day Care Centers and babysitter and maids. The children grow up this way with nothing but suppressed hatred for their parents which leads to parents being forced to Retire houses and so forth. Islam orders you to take care of your parents the way they took care of you when you were growing up. Do you ever stop and think how hard it is to take care of a baby? Feed them, clean them and watch over them. And they stay for you when you are sick all night. Infact it is considered a major sin to just say 'Oh' or "damn" and stuff like to them or to raise your voice in front of them. And you still say Islam is a load of bull that tells muslims to just kill people? Islam is a made up religeon? Lets talk about the "bible". Once it was a true book but after the prophet bearing it died people started changing it to their liking. So NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY GOD MADE MISTAKES IN THE BOOK AND WE ARE JUST CORRECTING THEM? Thats the biggest load of bull ever. You say Jesus died? God can die too? I didnt know that. Muslims believe in Jesus but not as a God but as a true prophet. I dont have much time right now but what I have typed is not even the tip of the iceberg people. Islam is a lot more then just meets the eye or what terrorist are naming it as.

According to the bible, Jesus' body died, but his spirit kept on keepin' on. Supposedly the men writing the bible were inspired by the holy spirit and wrote the words of god.

They've got answers for all of your arguments. Those wily Christians have been at it a while.
 

gamefreakgcb

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hmm words of god. so lets see here. i didnt say they wrote stuff but rather "CHANGED" stuff as in declared themselves "better" then God. Oh and the Bible was finished before Jesus's transition so any addition after that is just human mind and all that "words of god" theory is just a stupid cover-up. These people are molding their religeon the way they see fit so its all a load of baloney.
 
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