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AMD APUs are good for all thoses basics tasks but not Intel s APUs, now point me something generic that AMD APUs would be mediocre at processing if you can...
Both brands will perform correctly for generic usages but once games are introduced Intel s APUs become irrelevant for such PCs
You have been having the same handful of arguments non-stop for years on this forum, pausing only to find a new opponent. Why would I attempt to change a mind that is committed to not changing, no matter the evidence.
But if the Intel Celeron desktop can take a dGPU (ie, it is not a AIO) then that has to be factored in.
And another plus for the Celeron + dGPU is that it would only need single channel memory (4GB stick) whereas the APU would need more expensive dual channel memory (either 2 x 2 GB or 2 x 4GB) to get the FPS.
Because joe average will surely add a dGFX, are you kidding.?.
This argument burned to the rope has been used for years as a mean to downplay Intel s GPUs unability to provide the minimum requirement in games, get used to it, Intel APUs have good CPU performance but their mediocre GPU render them less good than an AMD APU when it comes to real life usage.
Hell, there is heaps of "viral marketing" from people like you, that might trick some poor newbie into buying an AMD CPU.
Yes, if wanting to play games knowing about dGFX would not be much of a stretch for someone with basic knowledge of computers.
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Hell, there is heaps of "viral marketing" from people like you, that might trick some poor newbie into buying an AMD CPU.
Intel APUs have good CPU performance but their mediocre GPU render them less good than an AMD APU when it comes to real life usage.
You are hanging too much often on enthusiast sites, go see people here and there to check what they have and how much they are not interested at all by thoses issues, they enter the store, buy the PC and want it to work without bothering to open the thing, let alone mess with drivers installations.
This is why, Nvidia does so well, and is a household name like Intel?
I thought I remembered someone posting some gaming benchmarks, and the Haswell Pentium IGP was more powerful than the Kabini AM1 quad-core's IGP.
So, this point has been debunked before.
I thought I remembered someone posting some gaming benchmarks, and the Haswell Pentium IGP was more powerful than the Kabini AM1 quad-core's IGP.
So, this point has been debunked before.
You are hanging too much often on enthusiast sites, go see people here and there to check what they have and how much they are not interested at all by thoses issues, they enter the store, buy the PC and want it to work without bothering to open the thing, let alone mess with drivers installations.
I frankly don't think it has anything to do with IPC or wattage use. I just think it's terrible marketing and the fact that we're at the race to the bottom.
so you are going to dis the review because you dont like OP criticizing the product hes reviewing? um ok
didnt you just comment saying A8 is good enough for "normal people". then suddenly 4k video becomes important?
What I want to know, is how many of you have submitted your resume to AMD in the last few months since so many folks have decisively pinpointed where they have gone wrong and how to fix it. I haven't, because I don't know the answer. In fact the more I learn the more questions it makes. Anyone? Not every day you get a chance to turn around an iconic brand in the PC industry eh? They seem to be hiring lately.
Yes, if wanting to play games knowing about dGFX would not be much of a stretch for someone with basic knowledge of computers.
Devinder Kumar said:I think if you ask me from my standpoint generation to generation, if the market share is 40-60 and it oscillates from one company to another, that’s probably how it will go and that’s the way it’s been. There were some decisions made two-three years ago when we were pushing the APU and our view of how the attach rates are going to change. Some product decisions were made, in particular in the low end. And I think that kind of hurt us in particular with the platform, in particular with decisions that Microsoft made with some customers with the Haswell platform. If there's one area that we’re confident of gaining market share is in the graphics space, not just in professional graphic product, but in the graphic space. And I think as the year evolves, the Ivy Bridge platforms come in to play, the attach rates actually have surprised us. We thought the attach rates would go down. If you ask someone two years ago, the attach rates were expected to go down more but they've actually not gone down as much, and now we [ph] participate in that market to go ahead and get the market share that I think we will see in the second half of 2014.
Given the amount of posters defending AMD APUs in the AMD Q414 results thread, I'd like to open a new thread to explore why the APUs failed on the market. Regarding the consumer market, AMD lost share in every single market bracket where it fielded APUs and the bleeding is yet to stop.
I'm rather curious to see the opinions of the people here on what are the APU value proposition strong points and why it failed on the market despite these strong points.
I thought I remembered someone posting some gaming benchmarks, and the Haswell Pentium IGP was more powerful than the Kabini AM1 quad-core's IGP.
This is why, Nvidia does so well, and is a household name like Intel?
didnt you just comment saying A8 is good enough for "normal people". then suddenly 4k video becomes important?
APU failed because HSA failed to take off.