Why I don't like Windows 10

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TeknoBug

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Don't forget to turn off data tracking service (find it under administration tools > computer manager > services and applications > services > data tracking service > disable and add DWORD 32bit "AllowTelemetry" with a value of 0 under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Policies/Microsoft/Windows/DataCollection.
 

Anubis

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apparently, there's a whole bunch of settings in W10 that can't be turned off fully; just a few things i read on "mouse control under windows 10". according to People Who Know Shit (tm) mouse response under W10 is inferior to W7. It's also not possible at this moment to load unsigned drivers, for example, to overclock USB ports.

probably more typical M$ crap like that but i stopped reading when i read "bad mouse", do i dont know.

im curious, why would someone OC their USB port?
 

rchunter

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Simple solution would be DX12 on Linux then I would be in heaven .

Now that's even more far fetched. But yeah I agree if you're going to dream, dream big. I'd love to see dx12 on linux. As it is now I do most of my online activity on a linux computer. I have 3 machines on a kvm so it's real easy to switch back and forth as I need to.
 

cmdrdredd

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Personally, I couldn't give a chit that Win X is 3% faster than Win Y in game 123. First of all I don't play games, but even when I did, I learned that a few % difference is negligible. I also learned that speeds often increase when drivers mature, over time.

More important to me here is that Win 10 feels less bloated with OS navigation, and frees up drive space too.


This is the major thing for me. Every day usage is better by quite a bit in 8 and 10 vs 7.
 

Maximilian

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Agreed OP. Im keeping windows 8.1 (which I still dislike, but ive made it just like 7) on my main rig for a while yet...

The only benefit of windows 10 IMO is DX12 and even then its a minor benefit at best. These days im mostly playing F2P multiplayer games like League of Legends, World of Tanks, World of Warships, Robocraft etc. They all run on DX9. Plus I get the feeling DX11 will be a lot like DX9 in that it sticks around for a very long time. Vista/7/8/8.1 all use DX11. So if DX12 is a windows 10 exclusive that will seriously hamper its adoption.
 

cmdrdredd

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Agreed OP. Im keeping windows 8.1 (which I still dislike, but ive made it just like 7) on my main rig for a while yet...

The only benefit of windows 10 IMO is DX12 and even then its a minor benefit at best. These days im mostly playing F2P multiplayer games like League of Legends, World of Tanks, World of Warships, Robocraft etc. They all run on DX9. Plus I get the feeling DX11 will be a lot like DX9 in that it sticks around for a very long time. Vista/7/8/8.1 all use DX11. So if DX12 is a windows 10 exclusive that will seriously hamper its adoption.

That'll change when people see the performance improvements with DX12. When a major game looks and runs better on DX12 using the same hardware, people will want it.
 

Maximilian

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That'll change when people see the performance improvements with DX12. When a major game looks and runs better on DX12 using the same hardware, people will want it.

I really doubt there will be any tangible game performance improvements.
 

cmdrdredd

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I really doubt there will be any tangible game performance improvements.

I don't know how you can say that when there are benchmarks already that show huge performance advantages with DX12. It'll happen. Some new game will use DX12 and it'll have huge advantages.
 

ninaholic37

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The only benefit of windows 10 IMO is DX12 and even then its a minor benefit at best. These days im mostly playing F2P multiplayer games like League of Legends, World of Tanks, World of Warships, Robocraft etc. They all run on DX9. Plus I get the feeling DX11 will be a lot like DX9 in that it sticks around for a very long time. Vista/7/8/8.1 all use DX11. So if DX12 is a windows 10 exclusive that will seriously hamper its adoption.
Wine in Linux supports DX9 awesomely too, and might get DX11 soon as well.
 

Maximilian

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I don't know how you can say that when there are benchmarks already that show huge performance advantages with DX12. It'll happen. Some new game will use DX12 and it'll have huge advantages.

Synthetic benchmarks. A pretty number with minimal real life bearing.

Plus what if the game sucks? What if its buggy as hell? What if its lumbered with DRM or they decide to release 50% of it and the rest as DLC? FPS is one of the last concerns for making a decent game these days. Its important, but theres a bunch of stuff thats more important.

Wine in Linux supports DX9 awesomely too, and might get DX11 soon as well.

DX11 would be awesome... trying out playonlinux is on my to do list. Pretty sure it uses wine under the hood.
 

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iCyborg

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Pretty much my thoughts too but on the bolded I wonder if people complaining about privacy stuff even own a smart phone and if they do, do they complain about having to turn off location settings and contact sync as well?
I've bit*ed about Android in other forums.
However, there's a drastic difference in usage between my phone and my desktop PC. I use smartphone for phone calls, SMS, gmail and everything else is basically for sh*ts and giggles - check news, forums on the internet, media player, a couple simple games, weather app etc.
Here's some stuff I do on my PC that I would never do on my phone:
1. I connect to my work desktop PC via VPN. Technically IT doesn't even allow this (VPN allowed only on company issued laptops), but management turns a blind eye.
2. Internet banking - stuff like accessing my bank accounts, online brokerage services for investing, RRSP account (Canadian 401K) etc. No way would I do this on a phone.
3. Filing tax returns and keeping all the slips and whatnot going back quite a few years. I'm not storing this on the phone or any clouds.
4. I have lots of various documents from PR/citizenship process like passport copies, forms with personal data, visas etc., all stored on my PC. Canadian government already has all these, I see no reason I should share them with Microsoft.

This is from the top of my head; if I looked through my PC, I'm sure I'd find more examples. I simply hold PC OS to a higher standard because I use it for more serious and more sensitive stuff. Right now I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this on Win 10 wondering if I've missed some checkbox somewhere, or if MS interprets 'turned off' as 'mostly turned off'.
Although the bigger issue for me is forced auto updates, I will not get on board with that, I've posted in the thread about it. All-in-all, if things don't change, my next desktop machine will be some Linux distro. Linux only lacks in gaming, and my gaming time has really gone down lately, I've bought 4-5 games since 2008, and 0 in the last 2 years, so not much sacrifice. If I were really big on gaming and I wanted DX12, I'd just have a dedicated gaming machine used for nothing else, basically like a console. But I think it's sad for MS if Win 10 is reduced to such purpose.
 

Eug

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I've bit*ed about Android in other forums.
However, there's a drastic difference in usage between my phone and my desktop PC. I use smartphone for phone calls, SMS, gmail and everything else is basically for sh*ts and giggles - check news, forums on the internet, media player, a couple simple games, weather app etc.
Here's some stuff I do on my PC that I would never do on my phone:
1. I connect to my work desktop PC via VPN. Technically IT doesn't even allow this (VPN allowed only on company issued laptops), but management turns a blind eye.
2. Internet banking - stuff like accessing my bank accounts, online brokerage services for investing, RRSP account (Canadian 401K) etc. No way would I do this on a phone.
3. Filing tax returns and keeping all the slips and whatnot going back quite a few years. I'm not storing this on the phone or any clouds.
4. I have lots of various documents from PR/citizenship process like passport copies, forms with personal data, visas etc., all stored on my PC. Canadian government already has all these, I see no reason I should share them with Microsoft.

This is from the top of my head; if I looked through my PC, I'm sure I'd find more examples. I simply hold PC OS to a higher standard because I use it for more serious and more sensitive stuff. Right now I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this on Win 10 wondering if I've missed some checkbox somewhere, or if MS interprets 'turned off' as 'mostly turned off'.
Although the bigger issue for me is forced auto updates, I will not get on board with that, I've posted in the thread about it. All-in-all, if things don't change, my next desktop machine will be some Linux distro. Linux only lacks in gaming, and my gaming time has really gone down lately, I've bought 4-5 games since 2008, and 0 in the last 2 years, so not much sacrifice. If I were really big on gaming and I wanted DX12, I'd just have a dedicated gaming machine used for nothing else, basically like a console. But I think it's sad for MS if Win 10 is reduced to such purpose.

I do banking on my phone all the time. I don't store the passwords though.
 

MongGrel

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oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 95......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 95

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 98......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 98

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 2000......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 2000

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows Vista......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows Vista

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 7......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 7

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8.1......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8.1....

and so on...thx berryracer!!

This.
 

SimMike2

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I use and love Windows Media Center, which is why I will not upgrade to Windows 10.
 
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