Why I no longer play games on PC. A discussion?

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Thraxen

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Coke is better than Pepsi. Case closed.

And while were on the subject, Borderlands on PC kills Borderlands on console. Try to beat me with your thumbsticks (LOL). You haven't got a prayer.

That is all.......

Seeing as how everyone is on a level playing field in either version your point is stupid.
 

Hadsus

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Seeing as how everyone is on a level playing field in either version your point is stupid.

But the platforms compared are not level. You'd absolutely have no chance. This reminds me of the gold 'ol LCD vs. CRT debates. You can flog a horse only so many times before it's dead and this corpse stinks to high heaven.
 

Thraxen

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But the platforms compared are not level. You'd absolutely have no chance. This reminds me of the gold 'ol LCD vs. CRT debates. You can flog a horse only so many times before it's dead and this corpse stinks to high heaven.

So? It's a meaningless comparison.

"Try to beat me with your thumbsticks"

What's that got to do with anything? If I was going to play the PC version I'd be using KB/M. If you were to come play the console version you would be using a controller. I don't care if you prefer KB/M, a lot of people do, but to make some sort of challenge like that is asinine.
 

Hadsus

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I'm not making a challenge. It's just as asinine to pan PC gaming. For shooters, it's superior. The mouse precision, quickness and accuracy is simply better than a gamepad.
 

lsquare

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This topic has been made 700 times in one form of another, either "why I'm giving up PC games" or "why PC games are better than consoles" or whatever.

I made the same switch as the OP and mostly play console games, although if I had a better computer I'd still game on both. I will upgrade for Diablo 3 when it comes out...

You're right, it's the same thread made over and over again. PC gaming ain't going to die out anytime soon. Some games just play better on the PC. However, I find myself upgrading my GPU less frequently as a result of more console gaming. I just got a Radeon 5850 not too long ago. This was my first new GPU in nearly 2 years. I still upgrade my CPUs annually because of all the new tech that does come out.

If there is one PC game that I can't wait to come out is Diablo 3. I remember having some of the best gaming moments of my life during my teenage years playing Diablo 2 and its expansion.
 

lsquare

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Until one of the console makers like Sony allows keyboards to be used for FPS on their machines, I don't think I'll ever stop playing PC games.
 

mingsoup

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If you had my rig you'd play PC games too.

Are you serious? I really don't mean to be offensive, but? I think there are vastly different realms of "acceptable" performance on this topic. Mine is quite different from yours.

However, I do like your room. Very very clean. Love the Quake box.
 
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dud

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I didn't read the whole thread but I MUCH prefer PC gaming (when I game) vice consoles. I enjoy the increased level of control on the PC (keyboard/mouse) vice a controller that I cannot seem to master. Also, I like my games a little more cerebral an you just don't find many RTS games on a console.
 

skace

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Are you serious? I really don't mean to be offensive, but? I think there are vastly different realms of "acceptable" performance on this topic. Mine is quite different from yours.

However, I do like your room. Very very clean. Love the Quake box.

I honestly didn't expect you to respond to that... it was meant as a jab, nothing more. I think whatever picture my sig links to these days is probably old, I've replaced most of my components.

But thank you

And Jack, I wouldn't buy 2 more 30" monitors right now, waiting to see what happens w/ 3d and whatnot. Plus I'm not sure where I'd put them.....
 

mingsoup

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I honestly didn't expect you to respond to that... it was meant as a jab, nothing more. I think whatever picture my sig links to these days is probably old, I've replaced most of my components.

But thank you

And Jack, I wouldn't buy 2 more 30" monitors right now, waiting to see what happens w/ 3d and whatnot. Plus I'm not sure where I'd put them.....

Sorry. Rather rude. Definitely could have gotten point across via other means.
 

StinkyPinky

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PC gaming isn't dead. The biggest game in the world is probably World of Warcraft. That's a PC exclusive (ok it runs on a mac but who games on a mac..)
 

Jeffg010

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I use my PC about 80% for porn

I use my console 100% for games.

/End
 

Rifter

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PC games have mods. end of discussion, try and find someone who thinks Oblivion was playable in stock form. Mods just add so much to games replayability. Also as mentioned you dont need to spend alot for a PC, you can build a gaming PC for under $700. Also i found that there are generally more mature people online on PC, i played L4d on a console once, you couldnt pay me enough to do it again. I do own a PS3 and a PC though but spend more time gaming on the PC, PS3 is mostly used for media streaming.
 

chalmers

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I have been a PC gamer forever and recently bought a 360 because all my friends play MW2 and other shooters on it. By like the fourth game I was so irritated with people named XxPlayaHataXx screaming into the mic after each game that I had to turn off all voice communications except from Friends. The whole time I'm just thinking "I could be playing TF2 right now".

Shockingly on that game nobody screams, hardly anyone has idiotic names....everyone just plays the game and enjoys it and most everyone I encounter is a mature adult. Plus I get to play with a keyboard/mouse.

I feel bad for this generation of kids thinking the 360 is the be all end all to gaming.
 

coldpower27

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I've been buying new CPU's and GPU's for many years and every time, the newest 300$ GPU or CPU just doesn't cut it. It never has. That latest game always just doesn't run quite like I want it too. Or the card I bought, still isn't the 500$ one. Its like a serious disease I have.

On consoles, while the graphics may not be what a 3000$ PC behemouth will pump out, I don't care as I am more focuses on actually playing the game compared to trying to tweak FPS or graphics quality.

I found that starting with the 6th generation of consoles that the graphics of consoles had caught up to PC enough for me to put off the concept of PC even more. I do miss strategy. However, a great counterexample for me is Supreme Commander 2, it was still very very enjoyable for me on my 360, finding it just as addictive as a mouse and keyboard. Things like Deus Ex 3 and Sims 3, are coming to consoles and I'll most likely just play them there. I even played Thief 3 and Deus Ex 2 on my Xbox1, and found it enjoyable, rather than try beat my 7800GTX around to play them. If a game misbehaves on a console: Its not your fault, and that fares much better for my OCD. Look at Batman: Arkham Asylum, it seems as if I needed a 3000$ behemouth to get at the physics. 360, it just worked and looked great, I think.

The argument towards console grows greater for me, as the consoles are modded and I can have much more open experience with my WII and 360. An example: I am now playing GTA4 on my 360, as I can now rip to USB and not have an F16 take off, stutter and die as a result of the crap of technology that is disc media anymore.

Other things include modding. Sven Coop is something I still find incredibly intriguing on the PC.

I am more than content to play Just Cause, Fallout, Morrowind, etc on my 360. I would rather have a slightly reduced experience (if that) and not have to worry about my 350$ GPU not being good enough.
However, even at that, consoles still are missing one giant thing: Starcraft 2.

I don't know whether I should even post this, but I wanted to get some feedback on these thoughts. Its probably been talked about before and induced flame wars. I'm not totally impartial to either side, I just suppose I'd like a little feedback.

My now modest PC
E2160 OCed 3.2Ghz
2Gig DDR2-800
Geforce 7800GTX

PC Gaming is a much more expensive hobby in general compared to console gaming. However console gaming is more targeted towards a lower introductory cost and more oriented towards party gaming then anything else.

Think of a "Gamer PC" as a full fledged multimedia machine. Hint: Not just for gaming...

The are many advantages for both platforms.

The 7th generation of consoles ala the Wii, XBox 360 and PS3 have closed the gap between the PC and consoles considerably.

The console model also works under a subsidized hardware and make money back on other stuff mentality. While PC hardware is in general not subsidized at all.
 

coldpower27

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Odd. The absolute oldest/weakest machine I have running out of six is a E8400 with a 280GTX in it and it still obliterates everything on the market. Thats only a $200 graphics card..

I can't quite follow your complaint.

Your oldest is that? wow...
 

mooncancook

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I much prefer playing games on my HTPC over my PS3 and Wii, all hooked up to the same 46" 1080p TV. With a C2D E8400 paired with a ATi 4870, the htpc trounces the PS3 in term of graphics, and it's really not a very expensive setup. Also as a PC it's a lot more useful in term of entertainment and productivity.

Of course the main drawback is the cost of hardware, and that you'll want to upgrade at least the video card to keep up with the latest game every 2 to 3 yrs. On the other hand PC games cost less than console games, especially Steam and D2D have some really good deals regularly. You can also reuse some of your components from your old PC when you upgrade while you have to throw everything away when you get a next gen console.

I'm not trying to argue who's better or who's dying as that's a meaningless never-ending debate. Just saying that I'm one of those who prefer PC games over console games as of today.
 

mingsoup

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Here's an argument. I payed 550$ for a 7800GTX in 2005. Now, I can't run Team Fortress 2 even with below medium settings without consistently going below 20 FPS.

WTF? 550$, What?

Except it isn't any better today. Looking at graphics card today, you have a slew of "new" cards introduced by AMD and Nvidia, which are actually steps backwards. New features but slower performance. What? Why would I want to pay more money for slower performance? Some people actually consider buying a card from a previous generation at a similar price point, because it offers BETTER performance.

Look at the 5850. ASSUMING you already have the fastest CPU/RAM available on the planet, you can and will dip to 47 fps in Fallout 3, for the low low price of 310$ according to tomshardware.com. Now thats assuming they are running THE most taxing part of Fallout3, which they aren't. Throw in a handful of nice mods, and whoops, its now 30fps. Or heck, an "intense" but fun mod, and you hit 20. I'm sorry, I just have a mental block about paying that much money, for anything less than 60fps+ all of the time. Thats a lot of money.

I would like to buy a new graphics card, but then I see benchmarks and I just don't see the point.I can stay where I'm at and have pretty shitty performance, or spend 300$ and have shitty performance except at a some higher settings. Keep waiting until I can spend 100$ on a card which will do my 1920*1200 at full at 50fps+ all the time. Maybe a couple more generations.

You have to live 1 or 2 generations in the past with PC gaming, with consoles you can live now. (I feel like) Wow this brand new GPU can finally run that game from 2008 maxed very comfortably.

So I just give up and play my 360.
 
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VashHT

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Here's an argument. I payed 550$ for a 7800GTX in 2005. Now, I can't run Team Fortress 2 even with below medium settings without consistently going below 20 FPS.

WTF? 550$, What?

Except it isn't any better today. Looking at graphics card today, you have a slew of "new" cards introduced by AMD and Nvidia, which are actually steps backwards. New features but slower performance. What? Why would I want to pay more money for slower performance? Some people actually consider buying a card from a previous generation at a similar price point, because it offers BETTER performance.

Look at the 5850. ASSUMING you already have the fastest CPU/RAM available on the planet, you can and will dip to 47 fps, for the low low price of 310$ according to tomshardware.com. I'm sorry, I just have a mental block about paying that much money, for anything less than 60fps+ all of the time. Thats a lot of money.

I would like to buy a new graphics card, but then I see benchmarks and I just don't see the point.I can stay where I'm at and have pretty shitty performance, or spend 300$ and have shitty performance except at a some higher settings. Keep waiting until I can spend 100$ on a card which will do my 1920*1200 at full at 50fps+ all the time.

So I just give up and play my 360.

You just have unrealistic expectations, the fact that you'll settle for 30fps up-scaled to 1080p on consoles but demand 50+fps at a higher resolution on PC's isn't very fair. How someone could complain about a videocard dipping to 47fps is beyond me, 47 as a min fps would make a for a really smooth gaming experience.
 
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I play games on both console and PC, picking up games that best utilize the given hardware. No fan-boy-ism here, why pick a side when you can play both.

At the same time, I'm guessing that the cost of gaming GPUs will only keep on getting higher. PC gaming market is becoming more of a niche within the general gaming community, and as the population become smaller, the price will sure increase to justify the business.

I'm on my 4th GPU since the beginning of 2007. It's hard justify the cost of gaming sometimes, but at the same time, it's like any other vice in life. Some times you just can't.
 

Terzo

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Here's an argument. I payed 550$ for a 7800GTX in 2005. Now, I can't run Team Fortress 2 even with below medium settings without consistently going below 20 FPS.

WTF? 550$, What?

To put it bluntly, that's your problem. That's what happens when you live on the bleeding edge. I paid $80 for my 8800gt two years ago and still find it to be sufficient, though my standards are not as harsh as yours. As Vash mentioned, you are expecting more performance from the computer.

You say you don't want to drop a ton of money for hardware that will dip into FPS in the high 40's. Why not spend a reasonable amount of money on hardware that will let you run at 30 fps?

I'm on my 4th GPU since the beginning of 2007. It's hard justify the cost of gaming sometimes, but at the same time, it's like any other vice in life. Some times you just can't.

I don't imagine the cost is that great. You average roughly 1 gpu a year; I imagine that when you upgrade you will be able to sell off your older cards at a small loss.
 

mingsoup

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To put it bluntly, that's your problem. That's what happens when you live on the bleeding edge. I paid $80 for my 8800gt two years ago and still find it to be sufficient, though my standards are not as harsh as yours. As Vash mentioned, you are expecting more performance from the computer.

Maybe you could recommend me a current 80$ I would be happy with and instructions on how to be happy with it. (I suppose buying a 24" Dell wasn't a very good idea, if I wanted to be happy, but then again, I could just run at lower resolutions, did it all the time back in the CRT days.)

I do agree, living on the bleeding edge just leads to disappoint and lots of lost money.
 
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