Originally posted by: SgtZulu
I have to agree ATI sucks major poop
Name 1 good thing to ever come out of CAnada
Originally posted by: SgtZulu
I have to agree ATI sucks major poop
Name 1 good thing to ever come out of CAnada
you can buy a card from VisionTek and know you get GREAT support.
Originally posted by: FlorianRed
5 Pin Bowling ...a truly Canadian sport invented by T.E. Ryan of Toronto in 1909
Able Walker ...the walker was patented by Norm Rolston in 1986
Air-Conditioned Railway Coach ...invented by Henry Ruttan in 1858
Abdominizer ...the infomercial exercise darling invented by Dennis Colonello in 1984
AC Radio Tube ..invented by Edward Samuels Rogers in 1925
Acetylene ...Thomas L. Wilson invented the production process in 1892
Acetylene Buoy ...invented by Thomas L. Wilson in 1904
Agrifoam Crop Cold Protector ...co-invented in 1967 by D. Siminovitch & J. W. Butler
Analytical Plotter ...a 3d map making system invented by Uno Vilho Helava in 1957
Andromonon ...a 3 wheeled vehicle invented in 1851 by Thomas Turnbull
Anti-Gravity Suit ...invented by Wilbur Rounding Franks in 1941, a suit for high altitude jet pilots
Automatic Foghorn ...the first steam foghorn was invented by Robert Foulis in 1859
Automatic Machinery Lubricator ...one of the many inventions invented by Elijah McCoy, the "Real McCoy"
Automatic Postal Sorter ...in 1957, Maurice Levy invented a postal sorter that could handle 200,000 letters an hour
Basketball ...invented by James Naismith in 1891
Bone Marrow Compatibility Test ...invented by Barbara Bain in 1960
Bromine ...a process to extract was invented by Herbert Henry Dow in 1890
Calcium Carbide ...in 1892, Thomas Leopold Willson invented a process for Calcium Carbide
Canada Dry Ginger Ale ...invented in 1907 by John A. McLaughlin
Chocolate Nut Bar ...Arthur Ganong made the first nickel bar in 1910
Computerized Braille ...invented by Roland Galarneau in 1972
Creed Telegraph System ..in 1900, Fredrick Creed invented a way to convert Morse Code to text
Compound Steam Engine ...invented by Benjamin Franklin Tibbetts in 1842
Electric Car Heater ...Thomas Ahearn invented the first electric car heater in 1890
Electric Cooking Range ...Thomas Ahearn invented the first in 1882
Electric Light Bulb ...Henry Woodward invented the electric light bulb in 1874 and sold the patent to Thomas Edison
Electron Microscope ...Eli Franklin Burton, Cecil Hall, James Hillier, Albert Prebus co-invented the electron microscope in 1937
Electric Organ ...Morse Robb of Belleville, Ontario, patented the world's first electric organ in 1928
Electric Streetcar - Invented by John Joseph Wright in 1883
Fathometer ...An early form of sonar invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1919
Film Colourization ...invented by Wilson Markle in 1983
Garbage Bag ...(polyethylene) invented by Harry Wasylyk in 1950
Goalie Mask ...invented by Jaques Plante in 1960
Gramophone ...co-invented by Alexander Graham Bell & Emile Berliner in 1889
Green Ink ...currency or greenbacks ink invented by Thomas Sterry Hunt in 1862
Half-tone Engraving ...co-invented by Georges Edouard Desbarats & William Augustus Leggo in 1869
Heart Pacemaker ...invented by Dr. John A. Hopps in 1950
Hydrofoil Boats ...co-invented by Alexander Graham Bell, & Casey Baldwin in 1908
IMax Movie System ...co-invented in 1968 by Grahame Ferguson, Roman Kroitor and Robert Kerr
Instant Mashed Potatoes ...dehydrated potato flakes were invented by Edward A. Asselbergs, in 1962
Insulin Process ...Fredrick Banting, J. J. Macleod, Charles Best and Collip invented the process for insulin in 1922
JAVA ...a programming language invented by James Gosling in 1994
Jetliner ...the first jetliner was designed by James Floyd in 1949
Jolly Jumper ...a baby's delight invented by Olivia Poole in 1959
Kerosene ...invented by Doctor Abraham Gesner in 1846
Lawn Sprinkler ...another invention made by the Real McCoy
Light Bulb Leads ..leads made of nickel & iron alloy were invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1892
Marquis Wheat ...invented by Sir Charles E. Saunders in 1908
Mcintosh Apple ...invented by John McIntosh in 1796
Music Synthesizer ...invented by Hugh Le Caine in 1945
Newsprint ...invented by Charles Fenerty in 1838
Odometer ...invented by Samuel McKeen in 1854
Paint Roller ...invented by Norman Breakey of Toronto in 1940
Plexiglas ...(Polymerized Methyl Methacrylate) invented by William Chalmers in 1931
Polypump Liquid Dispenser ...Harold Humphrey made pumpable liquid hand soap possible in 1972
Portable Film Developing System ...invented by Arthur Williams McCurdy in 1890, but he foolishly sold the patent to George Eastman in 1903
Potato Digger ...invented by Alexander Anderson in 1856
Process to Extract Helium from Natural Gas ...invented by Sir John Cunningham McLennan in 1915
Prosthetic Hand ...an electric prosthetic invented by Helmut Lucas in 1971
R-Theta Navigation System ...invented by J.E.G. Wright in 1958
Radio-Transmitted Voice ...invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1904
Railway Car Brake ...invented by George B. Dorey in 1913
Railway Sleeper Car ...invented by Samuel Sharp in 1857
Robertson Screw ...invented by Peter L. Robertson in 1908
Rotary Blow Molding Machine ...this plastic bottle maker was invented by Gustave Côté in 1966
Rotary Railroad Snowplow ...invented by J.E. Elliott in 1869
Rubber Shoe Heels ...Elijah McCoy patented an important iimprovement to rubber heels in 1879
Safety Paint ...a high reflectivity paint invented by Neil Harpham in 1974
Screw Propeller ...a ship's propeller invented by John Patch in 1833
Silicon Chip Blood Analyzer ...invented by Imants Lauks in 1986
SlickLicker ...made for cleaning oil spills, patented by Richard Sewell in 1970
Snowblower ...invented by Arthur Sicard in 1925
Snowmobile ...invented by Joseph-Armand Bombardier in 1922
Standard Time ...invented by Sir Sanford Fleming in 1878
Stereo-orthography Map Making System ...invented by T.J. Blachut, Stanley Collins in 1965
Superphosphate Fertilizer ...invented by Thomas L. Wilson in 1896
Synthetic Sucrose ...invented by Dr. Raymond Lemieux in 1953
Television ...Reginald A. Fessenden patented a television system in 1927
Television Camera ...invented by F. C. P. Henroteau in 1934
Telephone ..invented by Alexander Graham Bell in 1876
Telephone Handset ...invented by Cyril Duquet in 1878
Tone-to-Pulse Converter ...invented by Michael Cowpland in 1974
Trivial Pursuit ...invented in 1980 by Toronto University students, Chris Haney and Scott Abbott
Tuck-Away-Handle Beer Carton ...invented by Steve Pasjac in 1957
Undersea Telegraph Cable ...invented by Fredrick Newton Gisborne in 1857
UV-degradable Plastics ...invented by Dr. James Guillet in 1971
Variable Pitch Aircraft Propeller ...invented by Walter Rupert Turnbull in 1922
Walkie-Talkie ...invented by Donald L. Hings in 1942
Wireless Radio ...invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1900
Wirephoto ...Edward Samuels Rogers invented the first in 1925
Zipper ...invented by Gideon Sundback in 1913
BWAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!! [ROFL!]Originally posted by: imtim83
Why are you bashing ATI. They are doing a lot better! Plus even ATI techs replyed to people's posts saying there would be new drivers really soon!!! Now thats what i call cool! Plus soon the new ATI card will be out!! Plus the R300 will just improve on speed with the drivers! The drivers already are very good. I bet just as good as nvidia drivers! If not better! Go ATI! Go ATI! Go! Go ATI! Go ATI! Go!!!!!
When I started it, VisonTek did have great support, at the time... Anyways, that is really besides the point.
Great Post FlorianRed do you mind tellin me where you got that list thx. By the way are you from Ottawa? I lived there dor years still have lots of friends there. I'm in Kingston now.
Originally posted by: Bovinicus
1. Yeah, that does suck. Definitely not a good thing.
2. The drivers are excellent for the most part. Also, use Windows 2000 insetad of XP because there are a lot less probems. Many of the problems associatedf with various pieces of hardware and Windows XP are related to the fact that Windows XP is not a tried and true solution. Oh yeah, and a radeon 8500 should NOT be faster than a Ti4200. That is just complete and utter BS coming from someone who is obviously ignorant on the subject of what a 3D card SHOULD perform like.
3. Where have you been? That is every mail-in rebate department on the plant (Including NVIDIA). In fact, I never even got my $30 rebate for my GeForce256. I called them an inquired and they basically gave me the "According to us, we sent it, you're screwed"
Learn about what you are ranting about first.
Originally posted by: FlorianRed
When I started it, VisonTek did have great support, at the time... Anyways, that is really besides the point.
Ha ha ha ha ha! That was one of your main arguements! ATI SUCKS BECAUSE THEIR SUPPORT SUCKS AND LOOK AT HOW MUCH BETTER I CAN GET FROM WHATEVER COMPANY! now that other company goes under and ATI is still around. It's their size that guarnatees that you'll still have a warranty next week and now that your point has fallen apart "it's beside the point."
Well, if I owned a VisionTek card I would still be happy, as Nvidia provides the driver updates. If your card works, and you don't mess around with it, it will probably most likely work for a long long time. Granted, if I owned a visiontek card I would be pissed if it broke, but at least there are still drivers being produced by Nvidia.
Originally posted by: RedShirt
Whoa. This thread was started a month and a half ago. When I started it, VisonTek did have great support, at the time... Anyways, that is really besides the point.
I have finally received my rebate, but my friend who bought the card at the same store as me and sent in his rebate at the same time has not received his. I called about my rebate at least 6 times, probably more, about my rebate and I think since I hounded them so much I finally got it.
bdog231, your post is terrible. I guess you are happy with products that do not preform well, good for you. When I buy something, I expect it to work. Call me crazy, but that is how I think. And your remark about me calling ATI tech support is terrible. I was told to call them by wheresmyrebate.com as their job was done and ATI was holding the rebates and not sending them out. I guess if I had unlimited money, as you must have, I would have smashed my TV Wonder by now and purchased a different card, but since I am a college student, I guess I'll have to wait and see if someday my card will work as advertised. You do know that they are still producing TV wonders, and they have no non-beta drivers that work correctly in XP? XP is almost a year old now, and just because other companies may not have drivers working in XP for their crap products does not mean that it is OK for ATI to have terrible drivers. I guess you would jump off a cliff if everyone else was.
Anyways, it amazes me when people try to argue that products that do not work correctly are fine, and call you retarded for wanting them to work as advertised.
Edit: And I never said I disliked my Radeon 8500. I really like it, I just hate the company that stands behind it.
Edit2: When I bought my TV Wonder I was running windows 98, it is older hardware and I bought it based on a few reviews. I really liked the idea of watching TV on your desktop (the actual background of your desktop is the TV). It worked fine in Windows 9x, but not well in any NT based OS. It took them a long time to get drivers out for 2k that worked, and now the same thing is happening with XP, which is a consumer OS that is on almost every new computer sold.... and ATI is still making the cards, don't you think they should have non-beta drivers for XP almost a year after it has been released? And please, no one make the argument that because the hardware is older, it doesn't matter if it works or not, that is pure BS because they are still making these cards to this day.
Originally posted by: imtim83
Why are you bashing ATI. They are doing a lot better! Plus even ATI techs replyed to people's posts saying there would be new drivers really soon!!! Now thats what i call cool! Plus soon the new ATI card will be out!! Plus the R300 will just improve on speed with the drivers! The drivers already are very good. I bet just as good as nvidia drivers! If not better! Go ATI! Go ATI! Go! Go ATI! Go ATI! Go!!!!!
Your topic is "Why ATI Sucks". You haven't given US any reason to think so.
Your topic - as trivial as it is - SHOULD be, "Why I think ATI sucks (and I am trying to get attention for myself on a forum because I am bored and just want to rant)."
Originally posted by: bdog231
Ahhh, that would be my fault . . . this thread started 6 weeks ago and I joking suggested RedShirt change the title to it's current name.
Now who's jumping off cliff's RedShirt?