yup, we're griping not because its not fast, but because the ratings not honest. in the past the rating really meant it was about the same and most of the time faster in many things then intel. now its sad.
Originally posted by: ketchup79
Originally posted by: dguy6789
The Athlon XP's PR Rating was never supposed to be compared to a P4, if i can find the old article ill give a link, but it states that the PR rating is how fast it is compared to an amd athlon of that speed. Anyways, even if it is supposed to be compared to the P4, and even if it does not achieve the speed it claims, by NO means is it a slow chip. get a good nforce 2, dual channel pc3200. and a good video card, and other things that make a system fast, and you will have one heck of a fast system that can do anything very fast. Maybe not THE fastest, but it is very fast, and by no means slow.
Well, since Intel is AMD's only real competition, and since AMD has raised the price of it's flagship chip to match that of Intel's flagship chip, I think it would be really stupid of AMD NOT to have a speed rating comparable to the P4. AMD can say that they are not marketing their "processor model number" to the speed of the P4 until they are blue in the face, I think most of us know it is a big fat lie!
Originally posted by: fumbduck
because it sucks
What do you mean? You don't agree with the statement?Originally posted by: jeffrey
Here we go again.
"This editor still feels kind of cheated on the whole 400MHz FSB issue. We still have to question whether or not 400MHz FSB is entirely useful at all. Had AMD re-released its older processor lines on 400MHz, then perhaps we could justify the $20 hike in motherboard prices and a new chipset race. However, there is still only one AMD CPU capable of 400MHz, and the Athlon64 full release is only a few months away. If you decide to go with the AMD solution, we really don?t see any reason to jump on the 400MHz bandwagon and pay through the nose right now."
Anandtech has been saying that same thing for quite some time (this is a copy and paste from earlier articles). Why bring it up again - it isn't like this is anything new. And for the most part, I agree with that quote.Originally posted by: jeffrey
Here we go again.
"This editor still feels kind of cheated on the whole 400MHz FSB issue. We still have to question whether or not 400MHz FSB is entirely useful at all. Had AMD re-released its older processor lines on 400MHz, then perhaps we could justify the $20 hike in motherboard prices and a new chipset race. However, there is still only one AMD CPU capable of 400MHz, and the Athlon64 full release is only a few months away. If you decide to go with the AMD solution, we really don?t see any reason to jump on the 400MHz bandwagon and pay through the nose right now."
What's your point jeffrey? The comment is 100% on the money. What's to get excited about here? Why waste your money on a useless 400MHz bus?Originally posted by: jeffrey
Here we go again.
"This editor still feels kind of cheated on the whole 400MHz FSB issue. We still have to question whether or not 400MHz FSB is entirely useful at all. Had AMD re-released its older processor lines on 400MHz, then perhaps we could justify the $20 hike in motherboard prices and a new chipset race. However, there is still only one AMD CPU capable of 400MHz, and the Athlon64 full release is only a few months away. If you decide to go with the AMD solution, we really don?t see any reason to jump on the 400MHz bandwagon and pay through the nose right now."
Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
It is not hating
The PR system has gone to far. The price is too high when you have a PIV 2.8ghz which is on par with the XP 3200+ and costs $178 less.
Originally posted by: wetcat007
The thing I really don't get, is you can genreally pull another 200-300MHz from multiplyer alterin to that chip, why didn't AMD simly raise the clock speed? For more people they can overclock it a decent ammount to make it be able to fight the P4 3.2GHz cpu. AMD really screwed over their clock speed rating system and I don't think they ever will get to 2.4GHz on their own. But who wants to pay those prices for a CPU anyways Athlon 1700+ at 2.3GHz, 50 bucks and raw performance.