Why is ATOT so conservative?

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
i have been on this board for about a year now, and noticed a slant toward right wing thinking. i didn't know racists, "religious" christians, and haters in general were so into computers.


Edit: yes, not all conservatives are hateful. but the underlining philosophy tends to lean toward seeing others as less of your equal.

It is very much the opposite--you are using this for flamebait...

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: videogames101
I find that the conservative posts on AT tend to be shot down fast. I have found that, even if there may be more conservatives, many are friggen morons. (Seriously though, not insulting anyone here. I've just heard way to many idiots on ATOT raving on about how Bush is a genious.)

hehe. Your post is pure genius! I would assume it's some sort of satire considering you misspelled a word we all learned in second grade.

:roll:

 

[JungleMan1]

Holy crap, are you serious? This forum is one of the most liberal I've seen.

I like your blanket statements about right-wingers too. Racists? Stop listening to Kanye West's ranting on TV fundraisers and look at which side supports affirmative action quotas.

"Haters"? What is that supposed to mean? What is this, some kind of rap album?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: oldman420
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=2016963&enterthread=y

You might want to add a few more options into your poll.....

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: oldman420
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=2016963&enterthread=y

You might want to add a few more options into your poll.....

What? There's only 2 types of political ideologies. Those who are with George W. Bush and those who with the "liberals." Didn't you know? Get back in the box, man!

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: oldman420
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=2016963&enterthread=y

You might want to add a few more options into your poll.....

What? There's only 2 types of political ideologies. Those who are with George W. Bush and those who with the "liberals." Didn't you know? Get back in the box, man!

:laugh:

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: spidey07
A lot of them are go-getters and motivated people. They've "grown up" and understand and made the shift to conservative.

It's still very young though so still very liberal. Go to another board where the majority are adults and you'll see it split right down the middle, possible leaning more towards conservative.

Did you just say atot is grown up?

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Vic said:

Well, steeplepuke seems to have left so the commie BS has been diminishing. Still, Craig234 did praise at length the virtues of Huey Long the fascist not long ago, because he mistakenly thought he was another Chavez or Castro. So yeah, the deluded commie left influence is still here.

It should also be noted...

Anybody familiar with the history of actual fascism and contemporary fascist theories (Paxton, Griffin, even Eco) should recognize many of the elements of fascism in the new movement conservatives approach. Hyper masculinity, appeal to raw emotions, particularly fear, appealing to a working class that is completely powerless and feels itself to be powerless and thus seeks an emotionally powerful authoritarian leadership, the worship of violence, the hatred of the other as a unifying ideal (in our case, the hatred of anything "liberal", Muslim or Arab, distinctions most don't even know), the images of a past that we must restore (in our case, ranchers, soldiers, and real men, different from but parallel to the Volk image in Germany), a total emphasis on imagery and display over substance -- it's basically all there.

What's currently lacking is a populist economic element that would seek to restore some financial strength to the working class; this new version of proto-fascism seems to be able to function entirely without this, just by providing enough of the imaginery elements.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Vic said:

Well, steeplepuke seems to have left so the commie BS has been diminishing. Still, Craig234 did praise at length the virtues of Huey Long the fascist not long ago, because he mistakenly thought he was another Chavez or Castro. So yeah, the deluded commie left influence is still here.

It should also be noted...

Anybody familiar with the history of actual fascism and contemporary fascist theories (Paxton, Griffin, even Eco) should recognize many of the elements of fascism in the new movement conservatives approach. Hyper masculinity, appeal to raw emotions, particularly fear, appealing to a working class that is completely powerless and feels itself to be powerless and thus seeks an emotionally powerful authoritarian leadership, the worship of violence, the hatred of the other as a unifying ideal (in our case, the hatred of anything "liberal", Muslim or Arab, distinctions most don't even know), the images of a past that we must restore (in our case, ranchers, soldiers, and real men, different from but parallel to the Volk image in Germany), a total emphasis on imagery and display over substance -- it's basically all there.

What's currently lacking is a populist economic element that would seek to restore some financial strength to the working class; this new version of proto-fascism seems to be able to function entirely without this, just by providing enough of the imaginery elements.

That's because the populist economic element is on the "leftist" side of the equation.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Hugo Chavez

Originally posted by: Robert Heinlein
ATPN bends strongly to the communist left (yaknow, the ones who call themselves liberals but are actually anything but). So yeah, if you're one of those deluded kind, then it's no surprise you'd think ATOT is conservative. Commies think that everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy.

:roll: Delusional like McGowen yes but a Commie?? I don't believe so

Well, steeplepuke seems to have left so the commie BS has been diminishing. Still, Craig234 did praise at length the virtues of Huey Long the fascist not long ago, because he mistakenly thought he was another Chavez or Castro. So yeah, the deluded commie left influence is still here.

You cant forget Craig234's grand entrace to this forum in a thread about Chavez where he used an article to proce Chavez isnt so bad. Except the dimwit wasnt smart enough to realize using an article from a media source dedicated to partisan coverage of the communist party of america is a good way to get laughed right out of the thread.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Vic said:

Well, steeplepuke seems to have left so the commie BS has been diminishing. Still, Craig234 did praise at length the virtues of Huey Long the fascist not long ago, because he mistakenly thought he was another Chavez or Castro. So yeah, the deluded commie left influence is still here.

It should also be noted...

Anybody familiar with the history of actual fascism and contemporary fascist theories (Paxton, Griffin, even Eco) should recognize many of the elements of fascism in the new movement conservatives approach. Hyper masculinity, appeal to raw emotions, particularly fear, appealing to a working class that is completely powerless and feels itself to be powerless and thus seeks an emotionally powerful authoritarian leadership, the worship of violence, the hatred of the other as a unifying ideal (in our case, the hatred of anything "liberal", Muslim or Arab, distinctions most don't even know), the images of a past that we must restore (in our case, ranchers, soldiers, and real men, different from but parallel to the Volk image in Germany), a total emphasis on imagery and display over substance -- it's basically all there.

What's currently lacking is a populist economic element that would seek to restore some financial strength to the working class; this new version of proto-fascism seems to be able to function entirely without this, just by providing enough of the imaginery elements.

While not about fascism, this is a nice piece about the absurd imagery of militarism and masculinity the republicans feed their base, and why people like Coulter are so wildly popular amongst them.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/06/cult/index.html?source=rss

A picture's worth a 1000 words. And these people would have you believe they're 'grown up'? I'll believe it when they stop acting like 9 year old boys.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Vic said:

Well, steeplepuke seems to have left so the commie BS has been diminishing. Still, Craig234 did praise at length the virtues of Huey Long the fascist not long ago, because he mistakenly thought he was another Chavez or Castro. So yeah, the deluded commie left influence is still here.

It should also be noted...

Anybody familiar with the history of actual fascism and contemporary fascist theories (Paxton, Griffin, even Eco) should recognize many of the elements of fascism in the new movement conservatives approach. Hyper masculinity, appeal to raw emotions, particularly fear, appealing to a working class that is completely powerless and feels itself to be powerless and thus seeks an emotionally powerful authoritarian leadership, the worship of violence, the hatred of the other as a unifying ideal (in our case, the hatred of anything "liberal", Muslim or Arab, distinctions most don't even know), the images of a past that we must restore (in our case, ranchers, soldiers, and real men, different from but parallel to the Volk image in Germany), a total emphasis on imagery and display over substance -- it's basically all there.

What's currently lacking is a populist economic element that would seek to restore some financial strength to the working class; this new version of proto-fascism seems to be able to function entirely without this, just by providing enough of the imaginery elements.

While not about fascism, this is a nice piece about the absurd imagery of militarism and masculinity the republicans feed their base, and why people like Coulter are so wildly popular amongst them.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/06/cult/index.html?source=rss

A picture's worth a 1000 words. And these people would have you believe they're 'grown up'? I'll believe it when they stop acting like 9 year old boys.

With all due respect linking to salon is akin to linking to newsmax. Both are so polarized they should be ignored as over the top partisan E- rags.

 

[oldman420]

overall not that conservative.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=38&threadid=2016963

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: jack bauer
i have been on this board for about a year now, and noticed a slant toward right wing thinking. i didn't know racists, "religious" christians, and haters in general were so into computers.


Edit: yes, not all conservatives are hateful. but the underlining philosophy tends to lean toward seeing others as less of your equal.

you are calling conservatives racists, religious fanatics and haters in general?

i am calling you a troll.

oh, and fyi, it would seem by the results of this poll so far that most posting on ATOT are NOT conservative.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=2016963&enterthread=y

 

[spunkz]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jack bauer
i have been on this board for about a year now, and noticed a slant toward right wing thinking. i didn't know racists, "religious" christians, and haters in general were so into computers.


Edit: yes, not all conservatives are hateful. but the underlining philosophy tends to lean toward seeing others as less of your equal.

you are calling conservatives racists, religious fanatics and haters in general?

i am calling you a troll.

oh, and fyi, it would seem by the results of this poll so far that most posting on ATOT are NOT conservative.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=2016963&enterthread=y

well obviously we can't trust racists and haters to tell the truth in a poll now can we?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: nutxo


With all due respect linking to salon is akin to linking to newsmax. Both are so polarized they should be ignored as over the top partisan E- rags.

With all due respect that's an extremely ignorant claim, insulting to the excellent Salon.

You need to learn the difference between a liberal orientation and low standards. Your post is no better than calling Salon a poopyhead.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: nutxo


With all due respect linking to salon is akin to linking to newsmax. Both are so polarized they should be ignored as over the top partisan E- rags.

With all due respect that's an extremely ignorant claim, insulting to the excellent Salon.

You need to learn the difference between a liberal orientation and low standards. Your post is no better than calling Salon a poopyhead.

salon's a poopyhead.:laugh:

 

[FoBoT]

ATOT vs. ATPN


lets check google fight

115,000 results ATOT beats 44,700 results ATPN




take that you pinko commie scumbags!

 

[imported_iNGEN]

Just as everyone who has actually monitored their system stats to find a better build knows stats must be interpreted correctly to be useful. I was polled once for Bush's approval ratings. There were only two questions and the one used to produce the statistic, "Do you think President Bush has done a good job in office?"

The concept of limited war is fallacious, yet that is what the DoD has practiced with Bush as Commander in Chief. The wars in Afganistan and Iraq should be radically escalated. Shock and Awe, that we heard so much about over the last few years has been markedly absent. Am I satisfied with Bush's performance on this matter, no.
Illegal immigrants pour through our borders commiting numerous crimes beginning with the act of crossing the border without authorization. These people should be shot on sight, not used a tool to intimidate border patrol agents into not performing their sworn duty. Am I satisfied with Bush, no.
Ridiculous amounts of effort have been expended to apply new tax regulations that, while slightly decreasing the cost of my federal income tax, do nothing to decrease the cost of compliance nor to legitimize a system of taxation that relies entirely upon whimsical creation of law by members of the judiciary. Am I satisfied with Bush, no.
Suggesting an Amendment to the Constitution which does nothing to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity yet seeks to limit the individual liberty of my fellow Americans, consolidate within the federal government the right to determine the appropriateness of ones mate, however sick and twisted some may think that choice to be, is about as statist a statute as is possible. Am I satisfied with Bush, no.

Any objective evaluation of Bush's actions while in office would conclude Bush to be anything but conservative. Just because I disapprove does not mean I want some candy-ass feel good whining liberal in office to ensure my government paternalizes over my life or the lives of my children.