Besides the studies that medical professionals publish, preform your own study.
My step-daughter is 23 years old, and has several friends that have kids. When I meet her friends, we talk about the labor, whether they had an epidural, c-section, breastfeeding,,,,,.
Its amazing how many women these days get an epidural, have to have an emergency c-section, and can not breastfeed. Its the same reasons over and over- baby would not latch on, or the mom was not producing milk.
Up until recently getting an epidural was rare, and so were c-sections and problems breastfeeding. Its like there is an epidemic of c-sections these days, and there has to be a reason for that.
If we took these same rates of c-sections and breastfeeding problems back 10,000 years ago, mankind would have died out thousands of years ago.
A lot of this stuff is because fertility clinics and modern healthcare have allowed women that never would have been able to conceive and/or carry full term to now have children and actually deliver them and have them survive. We are allowing births in women who's bodies were not otherwise capable of doing it. You think that has any effect in those stats?
you will never know how nice it is to snuggle with someone who doesn't have a huge scar on their bellyI'm in favor of c-sections. Join me in the Save The Vag campaign!
I'm in favor of c-sections. Join me in the Save The Vag campaign!
you will never know how nice it is to snuggle with someone who doesn't have a huge scar on their belly
I do not know anyone that has gone through a fertility clinic.
Comparing the 1980s and 1990s - when my kids were born - and today, I see 2 major things that have changed, the weight of the woman, and epidurals.
There have been several studies I read that say the fatter the woman, the more likely they are to have a c-section. Mainly due to the birth canal being too small.
Then there is the epidural question, most health care providers say its safe, but I do not believe it. Anything that interferes with natural childbirth has to have some kind of side effect.
you will never know how nice it is to snuggle with someone who doesn't have a huge scar on their belly
Dude that sucks. My friend had it wrap around his leg and he's had problems with that leg his whole life.BTW, I was born via c-section in the 70s due to the fact that I had the cord wrapped around my neck. My son just decided to copy me.
It's just a blown out vagina with no tightness. I'm not shallow ^_^Why would I care? It's just a scar and I'm not that shallow.
Pics? I want to see this skinny femaleWhen my wife went into labor she weighed around 140lbs. She gained ~30lbs while pregnant.
Sexually repressed people? Why do men in this country constantly have their wiener's cut at birth? I'll give you a clue.
Women.
Women in the US like the cut look now which is why we are one of the few countries that does "routine" circumcisions as well. Women do not like looking at women's nipples or breasts either. Especially inflated "big" ones that are natural because women like to compare all the time. Yes there are some men as well who are of the same opinion, but the vast majority of the reason behind this is because of women. I am talking outside of the religious zealots, because they are a huge factor as well and encompass both men and women who think this way. I'm referring to other influences, and a larger body of it, beyond the religious zealots who are sexually ashamed of their bodies.
If you want to change attitudes, that is where you are going to have to start. Seeing as how much fatter, uglier, and more sexually ashamed women are becoming of their bodies lately, I don't see this changing any time soon.
It's just a blown out vagina with no tightness. I'm not shallow ^_^
Pics? I want to see this skinny female
I also have 4 kids and I breastfed 3 of them - the bottlefed one is the smartest and most socially adept, in case anyone cares.Comparing the overall health of our 2 bottle fed kids and our 2 breastfed kids, the breastfed are healthier, and have less social issues in their teenage years.
When men start putting something over their heads to cover themselves while they eat/drink, then maybe I'll take your comment seriouslyI don't see why women can't pump breast milk to feed their children when they're in public. I don't understand why there can't be some sort of compromise made for public decency sake.
We are fortunate that we live in times when formula feeding and breastfeeding are both healthy ways to feed a baby. I wasn't breast fed - I'm over 50, and back then it was the medical profession that INSISTED that breastfeeding was inferior and that the stuff that the docs recommended was better.
There was also the economic snobbery issue - only people who were too poor to afford formula were breastfeeding.
I also have 4 kids and I breastfed 3 of them - the bottlefed one is the smartest and most socially adept, in case anyone cares.
When men start putting something over their heads to cover themselves while they eat/drink, then maybe I'll take your comment seriously
When men start putting something over their heads to cover themselves while they eat/drink, then maybe I'll take your comment seriously
I've heard cost was a factor. Natural delivery takes many many many hours. During that time, the person occupies a bed, a room, nurses, and a doctor. C-section is just a flew slashes with a sword, here's your baby, and that's it.C-section rates rising unreasonably are for many reasons, most of them for reasons that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
Hey there, you might want to make sure that soap box can hold your weight before you stomp on up there. You can thank a MAN (Dr. Kellogg...yep, just like the cereal, same guy even) for circumcision popularity in the US. It was meant to be a deterrent for masturbating. Women didn't start it. So, before you choke to death on your foot, I suggest you keep quiet.
I don't see why women can't pump breast milk to feed their children when they're in public. I don't understand why there can't be some sort of compromise made for public decency sake.
There are lots of "formulas" and you can't make a blanket statement about any one of them. No two breast milks are the same, and no two formulas are the same. The goal is the best nutrition for the particular baby. I have an autistic kid and have had to become an expert on the strangest things (like breast milk and prescription formula) because of him. Thank your lucky stars that you haven't had the need to desperately research this stuff.Formula is not equal, not even close. Anyone that says so is just misinformed or willfully ignorant.
Edit: I just read a lot of this thread and holy fuck you people are misinformed and full of very bizarre ideas about childbirth. FYI, a well done c-section does not leave a big nasty scar. You can't see mine at all. I ended up having an emergency c-section. Not one of those that doctors "created" the emergency via too much intervention, but "these two are going to die soon if we don't do something now!"
C-section rates rising unreasonably are for many reasons, most of them for reasons that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
People can say what they want, but when a woman leaves her desk to pump her breasts several times per day, and other people have to "take up the slack" while she is away, it does not make for a happy workplace.
I am not against breastfeeding, I think basically it is a good idea. But when you work for someone you should be working for them, not running off to pump your breasts. In the case I am talking about, the woman was spending, give or take a little, roughly 8 hours per week away from her desk. That means the boss was paying her a whole days pay each week where he was not getting any work out of her. If you were an employer, would you want to do that?
Obviously my boss doesn't want anything bad to happen to the woman's child, but at the same time, he should have the right to get a fair days work from the woman for a fair days pay. I don't care how you slice it, working mothers and breast pumping has the potential to cause problems in the workplace.
Edit: I just read a lot of this thread and holy fuck you people are misinformed and full of very bizarre ideas about childbirth. FYI, a well done c-section does not leave a big nasty scar. You can't see mine at all. I ended up having an emergency c-section. Not one of those that doctors "created" the emergency via too much intervention, but "these two are going to die soon if we don't do something now!"
Yeah, pretty much this.Why is breastfeeding frowned upon?
because people are stupid? if you are one against it then nothing is going to change a persons mind. breastfeeding is not dirty, perverted, sexy or anything besides a baby eating.
Ok fine, we have policies for things like maternity leave. Allocate the time away from from work with something like that sort of time.People can say what they want, but when a woman leaves her desk to pump her breasts several times per day, and other people have to "take up the slack" while she is away, it does not make for a happy workplace.
I am not against breastfeeding, I think basically it is a good idea. But when you work for someone you should be working for them, not running off to pump your breasts. In the case I am talking about, the woman was spending, give or take a little, roughly 8 hours per week away from her desk. That means the boss was paying her a whole days pay each week where he was not getting any work out of her. If you were an employer, would you want to do that?
Obviously my boss doesn't want anything bad to happen to the woman's child, but at the same time, he should have the right to get a fair days work from the woman for a fair days pay. I don't care how you slice it, working mothers and breast pumping has the potential to cause problems in the workplace.