Why is it aways Muslims/Muslim sects behind recent acts of terrorism globally?

dug777

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I mean we haven't seen Christian sects blowing the hell out of Jakarta, or Jews bombing nightclubs, or Buddhists hijacking multiple commercial airliners to attack civilian targets...sure you might find the odd example but nothing close to the scale of Muslim terrorism...

I did a unit on the Middle East a few years ago, and it was quite an eye opener, the Islamic attitude to women is nothing short of totally unnacceptable, and shar'iah law is barbaric and backwards by any standard today (look at afghanistan under the taliban)...how you reconcile this 'pure system' of islam with modern beliefs and practices is beyond me...

meh, for them, salvation comes when Satan and his armies have been destroyed, but the Koran doesn't say whether Allah needs a hand, hence the concept of jihad, and we all know where that has led to.

 

sourceninja

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every religion has its crazys. And every religion based on 1 true god has gone though its kill everyone who doesn't agree with us period. And i'm sure there are a few christian churches out there that feel that not believing in what they belive is worthy of death, they just dont say it. Islam is a fairly new religion as far as religion's go, which is why they are just hitting the same type of thing christians hit in the middle ages. Eventually they will get over it or the religion will die out.
 

Whisper

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There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

:roll: When's the last time an abortion clinic has been bombed?
 

biostud

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IRA and ETA pops to my mind. Even though IRA has dropped their activities. Some strange Japanese cult did some gas attack at the Tokyo Subway some years ago.
 

aidanjm

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I see the acts of the israel state in palestine as state funded and directed terrorism.

but in general, I guess islam is a more youthful religion, in desperate need of a reformation (and the move away from literalism & fundamentalism that reformation would entail). whereas christianity has already had it's reformation.

 

sourceninja

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

:roll: When's the last time an abortion clinic has been bombed?



google news shows 1999 for the last abortion clinic bombing and 2001 for the last gay night club bombed (for some reason my googling for abortion brought up a lot of stuff about gays). But you dont have to kill people to hate. And its really about hate and fear.
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

Lets not forget the Crusades.... all four of them

Personally, I believe its the desperation that drives people to do irrational things (i.e. terrorism, etc). Most suicide bombers are usually people below the geriatric age and why? Because the Islamic leaders are old farts that think what they're doing is for their <god> and that they need to be alive to carry out their <god>'s justice. So why not send the peeps that are easily swayed by an easy way out of a crap of an existance they're already in?

Serve a cause, go to heaven. Yippy? :roll:
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Kipper
Generalization runs rampant in this thread.

rather than being a smart arse why don't you contribute to the thread and explain yourself?
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: Kipper
Generalization runs rampant in this thread.

If we don't generalize, the mighty stick shall strike swiftly from above upon our bums and fireballs of PC fury to consume this thread.
 

AndyHui

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No different to the terrors of the Spanish Inquisition.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

:roll: When's the last time an abortion clinic has been bombed?



google news shows 1999 for the last abortion clinic bombing and 2001 for the last gay night club bombed (for some reason my googling for abortion brought up a lot of stuff about gays). But you dont have to kill people to hate. And its really about hate and fear.

Aren't some Christians assassinating doctors who work in abortion clinics too?

I agree with an earlier post. Killing, torturing, oppressing, etc non-believers, heretics, etc is characteristic of any religion that believes their religion is THE RELIGION.

 

yllus

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I don't really think it's a comment on the religion, as much as it is coincidence that the poorest areas of the world are heavily Islamic at this time. If by chance the poles of the world were flipped - North America was predominantly Muslim and the Middle East mostly Christian - I think we'd be saying the same about Christianity.

<-- Owns and has actually read the Koran (in English).
 

Queasy

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If you take a look at every conflict in the world right now, Muslims are on one side of the conflict.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

:roll: When's the last time an abortion clinic has been bombed?



google news shows 1999 for the last abortion clinic bombing and 2001 for the last gay night club bombed (for some reason my googling for abortion brought up a lot of stuff about gays). But you dont have to kill people to hate. And its really about hate and fear.

That was the same guy though right? Eric Rudolph?
 

Kenazo

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There are extremeists in every group.

Christians were historically quite violent (not sure where the misinterpretation of the Bible happened that caused that though)
Jews/Israel are currently pretty extreme
Islam is currently the "bad apple" of the big 3, and always has been more of a "warring" religion (or maybe the ppl that follow it are just into war, I've really got no clue what the Koran actually says on the topic)
Atheists blow up animal testing labs....

We all have our nut jobs.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: yllus
I don't really think it's a comment on the religion, as much as it is coincidence that the poorest areas of the world are heavily Islamic at this time. If by chance the poles of the world were flipped - North America was predominantly Muslim and the Middle East mostly Christian - I think we'd be saying the same about Christianity.

<-- Owns and has actually read the Koran (in English).

You do know that the only proper way to read the Koran is in Arabic, since it is literally the word of Allah? The difference between the Koran and other holy books is that the muslims believe the Koran is 'literally' the word of allah, and thus is absolutely perfect as it is...
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Crusades

/thread.

What does something that happened 900 years ago have to do with Islamo-facists beheading Christian schoolgirls today? (link)
 

ArmchairAthlete

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It's their fundamental interpretation of the Qu'ran and view of the world telling them to strike.

I think the Bible encourages you to turn the other cheek, not get an eye for an eye.

EDIT: Not that all Christains have always followed that.
 

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Whisper
There might not be Christian sects blowing the heck out of Jakarta...but they sure do a good job against abortion clinics.

As sourceninja said, every religion has its share of crazy people.

:roll: When's the last time an abortion clinic has been bombed?



google news shows 1999 for the last abortion clinic bombing and 2001 for the last gay night club bombed (for some reason my googling for abortion brought up a lot of stuff about gays). But you dont have to kill people to hate. And its really about hate and fear.

Aren't some Christians assassinating doctors who work in abortion clinics too?

I agree with an earlier post. Killing, torturing, oppressing, etc non-believers, heretics, etc is characteristic of any religion that believes their religion is THE RELIGION.


Aren't the doctors killing babies too... This doesn't excuse the idiots who blow them up but IMO this is a bigger tragedy. The laws that protect doctors and the judges that legislated them from the bench to me are terrorists.

Oh and since when were the crusades terrorism. Last I recall it was open war. Take a look at the all the major terror incedents since the early 70's and you will see what the OP was talking about. Oh and even westernized Muslims are crazy. Look at the comments Louis Farrahkan made after Hurricane Katrina...
"I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry."
This comming from a man who even denounces muslims terrorism.

One thing I can say is that setting aside the fringe whackos the core of Christianity is love. I can't say the same for Islam. Oh and if you want to stand up to this comment I want some quotes from the Koran... something along the lines of: Love your neighbor.

@ OP: Buddhism is more a civil code than a religion. So are most of the easten religions.

 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Crusades

/thread.

What does something that happened 900 years ago have to do with Islamo-facists beheading Christian schoolgirls today? (link)



It's an example of Nutjobbery that shows that the Religion itself should not be blamed, but rather those that use it in defence of radical and often illegitimate acts.
 

BriGy86

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its things like these that make me hate how religion factions off people into diff groups

i believe in a higher being and how you should treate others how you want to be treated, but i wouldn't say im part of any one religion

think about it

religion itself has caused more conflicts (and not always war and death) than anything else on earth

how can this be a good thing if it causes so much chaos and destruction
 
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