Why is it so difficult for Christians to accept that Jesus was Black?

[Copperman]

but isn't there white jews also?

 

[apoppin]

<< Why is it so difficult for Buddhists to accept that Buddha was Hawaiian? >>


Simply put, he wasn't. Now the burden of proof falls on the one making this claim.

This is the most ridiculous of topics. Unless you can prove your assertion, it needs no answer to &quot;why is it so difficult&quot; - because it isn't true.

 

[Mikal]

Jesus was a jew with a good tan, which is to be expected in the Middle East, ya know! Peace!

 

[Linflas]

<< Thats honestly what I believe.... but like bomberman pointed out... this discussion isnt about the color of Jesus it's about white america's paranoid, panic attack at the idea of Jesus being black. >>


The only evidence I have seen of paranoia has been from the race hustlers that see a racist lurking behind every pillar. Reminds me a lot of the old &quot;commie under the bed&quot; days.


<< The answer to.... &quot;you know Jesus was black&quot;.... should be... &quot;oh really?.... so?&quot; instead as Gnote pointed out often the answer.. is a panicked uncomfotable &quot;nu uh&quot;....

It's a definite indicator of residual racism.

-Max >>


What an absurd bit of logic this is. Because someone responds no to your assertion of something not proven they are automatically a racist.

 

[apoppin]

<< What?! You mean there are no Black Jews?!?!.... migod.... being a Jew myself... and knowing many black jews.... what am I to tell them?... are they not black or not jewish? >>


Being Jewish means being descended from Abraham (tenth generation from Noah) through his grandson Jacob. Jesus' line is even more specifically traced back through Jacob and his son Judah eventually through the kingly line of the House of David.

The Bible is very specific and leaves no room for doubt here.

IF Jesus were black (imagining, IF somehow I could accept that assumption), THEN I would have no problem whatsoever with his skin color. The Bible does not support superiority of ANY part of the human race over another.

 

[apoppin]

<< Why is it so difficult for some Blacks to accept that Jesus was Jewish? >>

 

[8602081]

It's hard to determine what race Jesus was.
Back in the old days, they did not have the option of using Brightness or Contrast.

If you had a picture of Black Jesus, and you used the Brightness and Contrast of your monitor, you could me him look like lightly tanned Jew.

same goes the other way..

If you had a picture of Jewish Jesus, and you used the Brightness and Contrast of your monitor, you could make him look Black.

in other words..

Who cares, people believe anything. Race is not important. What he said is important. You can believe that he looks like purple Martian, but follow his words.

 

[Electric Amish]

The same reason why it's so hard for them to believe that god is a woman.

amish

 

[Azraele]

His color shouldn't matter. Color is not what makes a man. Character makes a man (or woman). His teachings are what's important, not what color his skin was.

 

[goshdarnindie]

Does anyone really care, or is this what a select group of elitist want us to think so that Christians will be divided? God's not even a sex, we were made in his image, not his sex. Jesus could have been whatever color He was, it doesn't change the message or the fact that He died, on that cross for everyone reading this post. So everyone can piddle away with whether or not He was a particular race.

Remember, the devil is in the details...

 

[Atlantean]

Why the hell does it matter what color Jesus was? or what color any other person is? It doesn't matter. Don't waste time worrying about what race or color Jesus or anyone else is.

 

[aidan]

With a bit of creativity, this theard could have had a great poll...

 

[Red Dawn]

<< Or... is it only wrong if it is a Christian speaking about things that are sacred to him? >>

Stop being a Martyr Net, they say the same things to me and I don't believe in any Religion.

 

[Netopia]

Ok Red,

Or... is it only wrong if it is a Wildman speaking about things that stress him out and/or a Christian speaking about things that are sacred to him?

Better?

Joe

 

[Rio Rebel]

You were right the first time, Joe. The double standard on the subject is ridiculous.

That being said, you DO have a tendency to get a little martyr action going once in a while...

(Keep up the good fight)

 

[yellowperil]

People who say skin color doesn't matter are missing the point. Of course it shouldn't matter, but the fact is, Americans aren't going to stop teaching their kids about Jesus using drawings of a white guy with a brown goatee. Even though there is no way to tell for sure what skin color he was, I think given the geographical and historical information, it's safe to assume that there is a good chance he was dark-skinned. Now, with this information, shouldn't people be more cautious about leaving impressions on kids' minds that Jesus was an Anglo-Saxon? A lot of this WWJD B.S. is based on the assumption that Jesus would have good ol' middle-class values. According to the Bible, Jesus resisted the authority at the time, associated with homeless people and prostitutes, and told everyone he was the son of God. The implications are enormous - if American kids are taught to learn early on that Jesus looked different and lived different then themselves, it could potentially help ease a lot of misunderstanding that fuels discrimination in this country.

 

[Clinotus]

This is a good topic for discussion, Gnote started it off wrong and all thread crappers got in.

Despite the entire basis for a lot of the arguements here, you guys should realize that you are arguing over the present day incarnation of a groups thought of what their savior looks like, despite the fact that Leviticus 26:1 - Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

Reading that passage make most of this pointless.

Also, Jewish is NOT A RACE.

 

[apoppin]

<< if American kids are taught to learn early on that Jesus looked different and lived different then themselves, it could potentially help ease a lot of misunderstanding that fuels discrimination in this country. >>



First of all christian RELIGION is not living up to its teaching responsibility if its followers picture Jesus as white Anglo-Saxon. The christian religions should[/] teach that Jesus was non-white. The history books should also mention it.

ALL of the paintings of Jesus are from the artist's imagination since we have no contemporary paintings.

 

[yellowperil]

apoppin - that's all good and well, but what image comes to your mind when you hear Jesus mentioned? Or in the minds of millions of people who were raised on Uncle Arthur's, My Bible Story, and Sunday School?

 

[apoppin]

<< despite the fact that Leviticus 26:1 - Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. >>



You are forgetting that this command was only given specifically to the nation of Israel.

Jews are a race by definition below:



<< 2. A member of the widely dispersed people originally descended from the ancient Hebrews and sharing an ethnic heritage based on Judaism. >>

By this dictionary definition sense, Jews are a race. We are not speaking of gentiles who convert to Judaism.

 

[apoppin]

<< apoppin - that's all good and well, but what image comes to your mind when you hear Jesus mentioned? >>


An oriental man, a Jew of the Hebrew race and culture martyred at age 33 due to the opposition of the religious leaders of his day.

But then I study the Bible. Unfortunately, many christian religions let the details slide to make their followers feel better (as Jesus foretold).

 

[Optimus]

yellowperil - a good point, and yes, I'm all for more accuracy in pictures depicting Jesus. I can't stand the pictures where he is all thin ans fragile looking too - He was a Carpenter and a real guy - He could probably bench press most of us!

But my problem with this thread was not that it was a discussion on the depictions of Jesus in art, it was more along the lines of:

&quot;Christians are racists and when you shine the searing light of logic on them they all crumble! Look what I did to this lady! Your Christians are all wrong!&quot;.

I still suspect the &quot;story&quot; about the lady is bunk, and I'm none to impressed with Gnote's abandonment of the thread either.

 

[NeoHC421]

First of all, you have no hardcore evidence to back that up, also, noone really cares.
If you are too busy trying to figure out what color he is, you have already missed to message of the gospel.
for those of you curious, here it is:
&quot;For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life&quot; (John 3:16) That's all that matters.
Can i get an Amen?

 

[Aihyah]

gets me thinking, why should asians bother with christian religion... we don't exist for that religion

 

[chiwawa626]

<< if you think about where he lived, in the Middle East, he was probably black >>



why is he black or white...he is middle eastern duh