Why is it so difficult for Christians to accept that Jesus was Black?

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amdforlife

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every argument about jesus being black, doesnt really argue against his skintone. instead, they argue jesus wasnt shaka zulu. but to me, its obviuos that by the facts given, he was a lot closer to shaka zulu than he was to george bush.
 

bluemax

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I didn't read any of the messages in here yet, but while we don't know if Jesus was actually BLACK black, her certainly wasn't pasty white either. After all, he lived in (I guess you could say) a mediterranian country. Very hot - arid, working in the sun all day... he'd have been a branzy-tan colour like most spanish are. That's what I'd assume anyways.

Who's saying he's totally super-african BLACK black?
 

67gt500

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gnote,

you weren't there and neither were the authors of the bible. To pretend as though your belief supercedes someone elses simply because you construe yours as knowledge is not right. It's unfortunate that the women didn't put you in your place for being such a fool.. perhaps she did, afterall we are only hearing one side of the story.
 

dummjock

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Now I am not a christian, and for all you believers, pardon if I offend you.

Now you're all talking about whether Jesus was black, white, yellow, green, pink, or maybe even colourless and transparent. The simple fact of the matter is that you werent there to witness it and therefore you can say anything or make any assumptions. Jesus could have been a 5 year old boy, a seventy year old grandmother, or a dying horse. We dont know. It is a simple fact that people twist stories. The bible may have important lessons, I can agree with that. But to even assume that the bible is completely correct. For example.


<< 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; >>


This could have been (and probably was) misinterpeted in translations. I could be wrong, but didnt the original bible get lost at one point and it had to be rewritten from stories. And if so, we all know how people can twist stories, let alone books.

As for Classy's comment. How do you get off saying that all non-believers go to hell. I thought god loved everyone, no matter race, colour, or culture. Even still, is that to say that since you do not believe in someone elses god, that you will go to that religion's equivilence to hell. Just think about that for a minute.

Overall, this discussion has been very interesting. As before, I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am only an uneducated 19 yearold, and if any of my infering is incorrect, please tell me. I enjoy the correct information that has been transcribed.
 

chiwawa626

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<< << 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; >> >>



see he coulda been an elbino black kid with knappy hair!
 

Bozo Galora

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About two years ago I was reading an article about the restoration of the murals painted on the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel by Michaelangelo. Some of the peoples faces depicted were so worn it was difficult to restore them correctly. But it was revealed in the article that Michaelangelo had used models for all of the Biblical depictions (Last Supper, etc.). In other words, he painted from real life, not from imagination. The painting was accurately restored by going to preliminary sketches or ancient records of the people involved. An astounding fact mentioned in the piece was that Michaelangelo used his COUSIN* as the model for Christ. In other words, all people with icons/pictures of that scrawney, sinewy, long curly dirty brown haired &quot;Jesus&quot; are in fact worshipping Michaelangelo's cousin.

(*They gave his name, but I dont remember it)
 

SuperCyrix

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<< Mary, and Christ's disciples appear in the catacombs of Rome, where the first Christians, known as Essenes buried their dead. All of these
portrayals picture a dark-skinned Messiah.
>>



There is no mention of Christ being genetically linked to Mary. No sex remember? Therefore, we have no idea what color Christ was.



<< In addition, during the time of Roman Emperor Justinian II, the Empire minted a gold coin that pictured Jesus. This coin, which today can be viewed in the British Museum, shows a man with clearly non-white facial features and tightly curled hair, >>



Personally, I believe Jesus was somewhat brown. Actually, I believe that Adam and Eve were brown. Some migrated down Africa and obtain their dark skin color. Others went up to Europe and turned white. Who knows who cares.
 

Clinotus

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Apoppin,

<< despite the fact that Leviticus 26:1 - Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. >>


You are forgetting that this command was only given specifically to the nation of Israel.

Logically -to me, that makes no sense. How can the rest of the world or specifically different cultures then impose THEIR visions of ISRAEL's messiah on the rest of the world? Wouldn't the image that &quot;may not be ascribed&quot; yet held by the israelite then be of their own regional ancestry? So therefore as Israel has not endorsed any image then all the images are then proved false. It is my thought from that conclusion that one could only then respect this question in relation to the geographical region of millenia past.

Jews are a race by definition below:

<< 2. A member of the widely dispersed people originally descended from the ancient Hebrews and sharing an ethnic heritage based on Judaism. >>

By this dictionary definition sense, Jews are a race. We are not speaking of gentiles who convert to Judaism.

Please provide a link to this dictionary. I find &quot;race&quot; as only one: Human, dictionary research finds: A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. Houghton Mifflin (2000). Not an arguement, I just want to clairify where you and I stand on terminology.
 

SuperCyrix

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Because there is a strong chance that Jesus is not biologically related to Mary at all, I must also add that Jesus can be Chinese as well!!
 

LordMaul

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<< Not again. You should have posted this in the Religion Forum. >>



No, the &quot;troll&quot; forum would be better...
 

khc200

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why does jesus got to be just 1 color, maybe he have the power to change his skin color...

geez... why argue over this? its not even funny...
 

khc200

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oh wait, thats michael jackson...

beside Tiger Woods is white... so color don't matter, you just gotta have skills...
 

apoppin

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<< Please provide a link to this dictionary. >>



Type in &quot;jew&quot;. Definition 2. Jew (j)
<<n.
1.An adherent of Judaism as a religion or culture.
2.A member of the widely dispersed people originally descended from the ancient Hebrews and sharing an ethnic heritage based on Judaism.
3.A native or inhabitant of the ancient kingdom of Judah.


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[Middle English Jeu, from Old French giu, from Latin Idaeus, from Greek Ioudaios, from Aramaic yhudy, from Hebrew yh&ucirc;d&icirc;, inhabitant of Judah, from yh&ucirc;d&acirc;, Judah. See Judah2.]
Usage Note: It is widely recognized that the attributive use of the noun Jew, in phrases such as Jew lawyer or Jew ethics, is both vulgar and highly offensive. In such contexts Jewish is the only acceptable possibility. Some people, however, have become so wary of this construction that they have extended the stigma to any use of Jew as a noun, a practice that carries risks of its own. In a sentence such as There are now several Jews on the council, which is unobjectionable, the substitution of a circumlocution like Jewish people or persons of Jewish background may in itself cause offense for seeming to imply that Jew has a negative connotation when used as a noun.>>

 

WombatNoMom

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Why is it so difficult for Christians to accept that Jesus was Black?

Maybe same reason it is so difficult for you guys to accept that I am Dennilfloss?

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No. You are not Dennilfloss. You are gone! :|

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apoppin

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<<You know...

Nah, never mind I won't say anthing.>>


I am beginning to notice a pattern here. You are bumping threads you don't like.

I am gone from this thread. Nothing personal and I'll check back in the AM to see if it's still alive.
 

RGN

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ROFL this thread is funny. I don't care if he is white, black, etc. why should it really matter?
 

Yo Ma Ma

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<< ROFL this thread is funny. I don't care if he is white, black, etc. why should it really matter? >>

It's not so much that anyone really cares what color Jesus is or was, as much as an unsubstantiated supposition presented as fact.
 

jaydee

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<< As far as any of us know Jesus was not a real person at all. This is all just stupid speculation. >>


As far as anyone knows mabey you're not a real person. Then again, mabey I'm not a real person. There is more documents that lead to proof of Jesus Christ then any other person in history. As long as my name is Jim, there is no doubt in my mind that He lived on earth 2000 years ago.
 
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