why is it that black people can do things only for black people.....

[compuwiz1]

I was never a slave owner.

Nor was I, but apparently, when 3 generations of welfare recipients, suddenly declare "The world owes me", we should all stand up, kiss their asses, and give them all a raise.

This is abuse of the highest magnitude and it needs to be shut down, and now. What we need to get back to, is "give me an honest days work, and I will pay you an honest day's pay". Did I, anywhere in there, ask, or pretend to know you skin color?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Jimbo

Hmm maybe a race that was sytematically shackled, beaten, and sold for three hundred years has a right to be really pissed off?

I did not know there was a collective and accumulative sense that whitie owed them something. My ancestors are Irish and were oppressed for longer that 300 years by the British. Does that mean all people from England OWE me? No black in this country was ever a slave. I was never a slave owner.

Totally diiferent. But since you mention it there is still a tremendous amount of hate from southern irish and even some here.. Who actually support the IRA financially.. And history is important, especially when drafting policy. Each generation is not a vacuum and will never be, that's how we get our customs, laws, traditions, even cooking recipes and if you've had your history ripped out from beneath you have really little to by other than what your told by the white history books.

To add salt to the wound your told to forget all past trangresions against your people by us and lets start fresh. Then your constantly see evidence your still thought of as secend class. I don't know seems your asking a lot for them to forget when it's rubbed in your face almost daily.

 

[morkinva]

part of the problem is the things that were/are done to try and help these folks, like affirmative action and welfare. what these things do is tantamount to treating them like children with an allowance. and like children they will eventually bite the hand that feeds them, or that they perceive to feed them. people treated like children will respond in kind.

I must admit that if someone were to give me money on a continuing basis I would take it. and keep taking it, so I don't blame them. someone cannot become independent until they are financially strapped and crawl out of that hole themselves. there may have been a time that these measures were effective, but no longer.

and regarding whether these folks walking past me were just a*holes in general or were acting that way because of race I cannot say for sure, lets just call it a gut feeling. would they do the same thing if I was black? I doubt it very much.

 

[etalns]

Originally posted by: roncarter

Originally posted by: yakko
I think the world sucks sometimes.

yea it does.. but its fun when ur having sex!! hahahahhaa

that was uncalled for

 

[Jimbo]

To add salt to the wound your told to forget all past trangresions against your people by us and lets start fresh. Then your constantly see evidence your still thought of as secend class. I don't know seems your asking a lot for them to forget when it's rubbed in your face almost daily.

Sometimes how you act determines how you are treated.

 

[compuwiz1]

Qosis, please pull the pickle from your posterior orfice.

 

[kami]

At my daughter's graduation ceremony, we (my family) felt like minorities. There were only a handfull of whites, among all the blacks, hispanics, asians, russians, etc. The most undisciplined (making noise, etc), were the black families that were there. It seemed they were all out to prove something. Even the kids that graduated, were dancing all over the field, exposing various parts of their bodies, shaking their asses, etc, while the rest behaved quite appropriately.

To be fair, not all blacks are like this. I do know what you're talking about however and it's quite annoying.

My hometown doesn't have many blacks and since the black population is smaller there is none of this behavior it seems. However, where I go to school in Toronto (BIG black population and BIG city) they always need to be the center of attention. A random example would be a group of them shouting at each other at the top of their lungs in a mall foodcourt...and then when me and my friends GLANCED at them (who wouldn't, it was loud) they started yelling out stuff like "you don't like it, come and say something about it to mah face" and other snide remarks. It was like they owned the place :disgust:

 

[IGBT]

Racial profiling...same thing with affirmative action.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: roncarter

Originally posted by: SHoddyCOmp
It does suck. But it depends what you really look at to come to that conclusion

like i said.. i was looking at a scholorship posting.. it said you had to be black to get it...

my point is.. u never see a posting that says you have to be white... do you?

I did a quick web search and found different scholarships for students of Armenian, Polish, or Irish descent. While these are not exactly "white" scholarships, they certainly are racially based.

That being said, some blacks do have a tendency to engage in self-segregation. At my college in the early 1990's, I noticed that black students tended to congregate together almost exclusively in the cafeteria. This, despite the fact that there were students of many other races (besides "white") present. No other races engaged in the same amount of self-segregation. Why? I dunno. This wasn't in some hick town either. It was at Northwestern University (which is located in the town of Evanston which shares a border with the city of Chicago).

Regardless, it is racial discrimination. Sometimes that's good (e.g. screening for sickle-cell anemia), sometimes that's bad (e.g. "We don't serve Irish"). It depends on why.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: kami

At my daughter's graduation ceremony, we (my family) felt like minorities. There were only a handfull of whites, among all the blacks, hispanics, asians, russians, etc. The most undisciplined (making noise, etc), were the black families that were there. It seemed they were all out to prove something. Even the kids that graduated, were dancing all over the field, exposing various parts of their bodies, shaking their asses, etc, while the rest behaved quite appropriately.

To be fair, not all blacks are like this. I do know what you're talking about however and it's quite annoying.

My hometown doesn't have many blacks and since the black population is smaller there is none of this behavior it seems. However, where I go to school in Toronto (BIG black population and BIG city) they always need to be the center of attention. A random example would be a group of them shouting at each other at the top of their lungs in a mall foodcourt...and then when me and my friends GLANCED at them (who wouldn't, it was loud) they started yelling out stuff like "you don't like it, come and say something about it to mah face" and other snide remarks. It was like they owned the place :disgust:

Kami: where are you quoting this "at my daughter's..."stuff from?

 

[Nefrodite]

<-- liked undercover brother

 

[kami]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: kami

At my daughter's graduation ceremony, we (my family) felt like minorities. There were only a handfull of whites, among all the blacks, hispanics, asians, russians, etc. The most undisciplined (making noise, etc), were the black families that were there. It seemed they were all out to prove something. Even the kids that graduated, were dancing all over the field, exposing various parts of their bodies, shaking their asses, etc, while the rest behaved quite appropriately.

To be fair, not all blacks are like this. I do know what you're talking about however and it's quite annoying.

My hometown doesn't have many blacks and since the black population is smaller there is none of this behavior it seems. However, where I go to school in Toronto (BIG black population and BIG city) they always need to be the center of attention. A random example would be a group of them shouting at each other at the top of their lungs in a mall foodcourt...and then when me and my friends GLANCED at them (who wouldn't, it was loud) they started yelling out stuff like "you don't like it, come and say something about it to mah face" and other snide remarks. It was like they owned the place :disgust:

Kami: where are you quoting this "at my daughter's..."stuff from?

ever heard of CTRL+F?

 

[Zebo]

23 minutes later? ESP or what?

 

[monotony]

You people are all but saying on this thread, that racism and prejudices are not as common or are over, all the while DOING IT in this thread. "Not all of them are bad....etc...etc" When was the last time we had a conversation about WHITE PEOPLE like this? By shear percentages alone there are 5 times as many white a$$holes than any other race and this entire thread is a rediculous way to try to "get in your shots" without trying to come off racist. It's not working. Spitting the same ignorant statements that people were 50 years ago. Like there aren't just as many white people bastardizing our system through welfare, way worse. Stop your complaining, you've got more opportunities than 90% of these people will ever have, and you want to know why there are black only scholarships.

I'm not black, and I'm not white...I'm bi-racial and I have seen things first hand from both a white perspective and a black perspective. Bottom line is that most of you have no idea how much hate is still out there, and while I don't believe that things should always be made a 'race issue', if you think that racism is gone or close to it, you are blinding yourself to the truth.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: monotony
You people are all but saying on this thread, that racism and prejudices are not as common or are over, all the while DOING IT in this thread. "Not all of them are bad....etc...etc" When was the last time we had a conversation about WHITE PEOPLE like this? By shear percentages alone there are 5 times as many white a$$holes than any other race and this entire thread is a rediculous way to try to "get in your shots" without trying to come off racist. It's not working. Spitting the same ignorant statements that people were 50 years ago. Like there aren't just as many white people bastardizing our system through welfare, way worse. Stop your complaining, you've got more opportunities than 90% of these people will ever have, and you want to know why there are black only scholarships.

I'm not black, and I'm not white...I'm bi-racial and I have seen things first hand from both a white perspective and a black perspective. Bottom line is that most of you have no idea how much hate is still out there, and while I don't believe that things should always be made a 'race issue', if you think that racism is gone or close to it, you are blinding yourself to the truth.

I have a pretty good idea how much hate is out there in all races and ethnic groups. Statements like 'there are 5 times as many white a$$holes' are as good an example of it as "Not all of them are bad....etc...etc".

 

[Gulzakar]

Hmm, seems to be a theme here...I can't go to a mall, a food court, or whatever where some young Black kids aren't screaming off the top of their lungs (not one, but in groups)...I think it's more of a younger kid thing...sort of. Of course, I do live on the bay area. Does it get on my nerves? Hell yes it does...and I'm Half-Armenian too! What do I do? Ignore it, laugh, and ponder the prospect that many of these kids will be spending some time in San Quentin. I'd be more apt to blame it on rap music. Ebonics is common all over the United States amongst blacks...coincidence? no...I don't hear any Californians working on their southern accents...

Of course, every culture has their own quirks, perhaps this is just another case?

 

[Cattlegod]

racism is directly related to intelligence. if one is being supressed in some manner because of race, the ability to see both sides and understand how and why the other person is wrong is the true winner. racism stems from an inability to understand other cultures, which for the united states is bad for we are a very diverse nation. racism will always be here because ignorant people will always be here. that is, until there is enough mating to create a single mixed race (which also will never totally happen).

 

[Gulzakar]

dont confuse racism with irritation...

It's one thing to hate, but another to feel totally annoyed.

 

[GMachine]

This one black kid bothers my wife at work alot by making lewd comments and generally making her uncomfortable. It took a near sexual harrasment lawsuit for the company to put an end to it. I for sure did not want to confront the guy because i don't want to get shot or my wife getting injured by a drive by or something.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
Hmm, seems to be a theme here...I can't go to a mall, a food court, or whatever where some young Black kids aren't screaming off the top of their lungs (not one, but in groups)...I think it's more of a younger kid thing...sort of. Of course, I do live on the bay area. Does it get on my nerves? Hell yes it does...and I'm Half-Armenian too! What do I do? Ignore it, laugh, and ponder the prospect that many of these kids will be spending some time in San Quentin. I'd be more apt to blame it on rap music. Ebonics is common all over the United States amongst blacks...coincidence? no...I don't hear any Californians working on their southern accents...

Of course, every culture has their own quirks, perhaps this is just another case?

The youths of a minority often try to find a way to set themselves apart from society, even more so than the youths of a majority. When young most people want to show that they are 'cool' and stuff, and not the same as their parents and the other 'old' people. Minorities often don't really fit into the other groups cause of social/cultural differences, or even through skin colour alone, although when there are only a few they tend to group with the rest of the kids. Those kids don't just try to set themselves apart from their own parents, but in a way try to embrace their own culture (or create a new one) to set themselves apart from the majority too. What you see a lot here (The Netherlands) is that when groups of several minorities and kids from a Dutch background mix you get a group with their own culture and language, consisting of parts from all of those cultures. A Language with Dutch, Maroccan, Surinam and Turkish words. A way to distinguish yourself and at the same time establish a unity among your group.

In a way nationalism and racism are the same: You stick together as a group and try to set yourself apart from the rest, and see the rest as less good.

 

[Red Dawn]

How about Scholarships for the disabled? Should there be Scholarships for Healthy people? Wait.. Athletic Scholarships. In fact you can be dumb as a rock and get one (How else would someone like Lawrence Phillips get a chance to go to college) DOH!!

 

[monotony]

I have a pretty good idea how much hate is out there in all races and ethnic groups. Statements like 'there are 5 times as many white a$$holes' are as good an example of it as "Not all of them are bad....etc...etc".

There were maybe 2 responses to the actual topic of this thread. The rest of this entire thread were people either bashing another race, or people trying to defend the other race. Regardless, as much as many of you don't want to believe it, this is not as much about race as it is about ignorance. You know 3 black people that bother you, and all of the sudden the thread goes from "why are there black scholarships" to "they are loud, and on welfare, and think everyone owes them something." There are just as many loud, annoying, welfare exploiting white people, but where are the threads bitching about them? It's not a race issue. It's about opportunity, and respect...which is still extremely skewed in this country.

Either way, this thread isn't going to change anyone's mind, and is just going to piss a bunch of people off, so I suggest we just let it die.

 

[Red Dawn]

Either way, this thread isn't going to change anyone's mind, and is just going to piss a bunch of people off, so I suggest we just let it die.

Every so often the Pasty Faced Anandtecher carrying the burden for the White Man on his shoulders just has to post here to let some steam off. Don't take it seriously as they rarely venture outside so it's not as if they are a legitimate threat to anyone!

 

[Dedpuhl]

Originally posted by: roncarter
This really annoys me, and I wanted to see if you guys thought the same...
Why is it that black people can do public stuff, and say its a black get together, or black something and only blacks will be there... (you guys no wat i mean) but right when some other race does this, its called racisim. I dont get it.. For example, today i was walking down the hallway off my schoool and saw a scholarship posting.. It said you HAD to be a AFRICAN AMERICAN..... hey.. thats totallly fine with me but if that said only for white people... someoone would start a big fuss over it! I think thats pretty darrn gaaay...

by the way...Im not white so dont think that plz

Wat do u guys think

I see no problem with offering a scholarship to a limited group of people. The last time I checked, it was a free country.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: roncarter
This really annoys me, and I wanted to see if you guys thought the same...
Why is it that black people can do public stuff, and say its a black get together, or black something and only blacks will be there... (you guys no wat i mean) but right when some other race does this, its called racisim. I dont get it.. For example, today i was walking down the hallway off my schoool and saw a scholarship posting.. It said you HAD to be a AFRICAN AMERICAN..... hey.. thats totallly fine with me but if that said only for white people... someoone would start a big fuss over it! I think thats pretty darrn gaaay...

by the way...Im not white so dont think that plz

Wat do u guys think

It is called a double standard, learn to live with it. Have you ever heard of BAEO? They are a group that fund only African American educational opportunities. I heard it explained one time (albeit not to my satisfaction) that as a white male I was going to get a scholarship anyways, because I have more opportunities, but as a black female there were not as many opportunities so the scholarship levels the playing field (I don't feel like typing a 2 page post on what is inherrently wrong with that statement)