Why is LSD illegal?

[Stifko]

Originally posted by: tidehigh
it was made illegal to try to curb the counter culture uprising a few decades ago.

for the idiots replying, MJ was made illegal because of the mexican immigration problem in TX a few decades before that.

no it wasn't b/c of that. MJ was made illegal by the cotton industry's lobbying efforts in the 1920s. Hemp is stronger and more than cotton and the cotton growers got nervous. So they successfully lobbied washington to make it illegal. It had nothing to do with smoking it.

LSD is in a whole different catagory than MJ IMHO.

 

[tidehigh]

read about the texas state goverments push for the federal courts to make it illegal because of the mexican immigration problem. i don't know all details but i pretty sure this was why it finally got passed federally. as i mentioned before, i can't prove anything at work because i'm not able to find links.

LSD is a different ballgame, no doubt. i still think it should be ok for special psychologists to try LSD in certain mental illness cases. Its should be available for testing, at the very least, along with MDMA

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

Yeah propaganda like this was going around when I was in highschool. Back then they actually were telling the kids that just taking LSD once would cause DNA damage, so that if you had offspring they could be born with a hole in their heart, etc., which I later found out to be total bull.

 

[mitchel]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

Yeah propaganda like this was going around when I was in highschool. Back then they actually were telling the kids that just taking LSD once would cause DNA damage, so that if you had offspring they could be born with a hole in their heart, etc., which I later found out to be total bull.

Hahah. I heard that if you posted on ATOT more than 3x, you're considered clinically insane.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: mitchel

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

Yeah propaganda like this was going around when I was in highschool. Back then they actually were telling the kids that just taking LSD once would cause DNA damage, so that if you had offspring they could be born with a hole in their heart, etc., which I later found out to be total bull.

Hahah. I heard that if you posted on ATOT more than 3x, you're considered clinically insane.

Oh, crap

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: mitchel

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

Yeah propaganda like this was going around when I was in highschool. Back then they actually were telling the kids that just taking LSD once would cause DNA damage, so that if you had offspring they could be born with a hole in their heart, etc., which I later found out to be total bull.

Hahah. I heard that if you posted on ATOT more than 3x, you're considered clinically insane.

Oh, crap

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[uberman]

President George Bush explained it best. He said, something "..is not illegal when the president does it."

That's why it was legal during the MKULTRA Program because the government was giving LSD to people. If the government does things it's OK. If people do things it's illegal.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: amjohns5
I heard that if you take LSD more than 3 times, that clinically, you are insane.

I have also heard this little factoid, going as far back as fourteen years ago.

Yeah propaganda like this was going around when I was in highschool. Back then they actually were telling the kids that just taking LSD once would cause DNA damage, so that if you had offspring they could be born with a hole in their heart, etc., which I later found out to be total bull.

I never heard of that, or maybe I did but ignored it for the drivel that it is, but there was always lots of talk about having flashbacks. When I was younger, I was looking forward to the free trips sometime in the future - kind of like racking up frequent flyer miles.

It must have been urban legend though, either that or I got cheated. All the hallucinogens I've done and I've never had even one flashback.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
i'll undoubtedly get flamed for this, but take the reasons weed is illegal and multiply it by ninety nine billion.

Or to simplify things, take the reasons alcohol was legal, made illegal (because it was an evil manace) and then re-legalized (because it was really ok), then multiply that by 32,768

error! out of range!

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: jjones


It must have been urban legend though, either that or I got cheated. All the hallucinogens I've done and I've never had even one flashback.

I took acid once, or I thought I did. I didn't get high enough to be sure it wasn't plain blotter paper. IOW, to insure that whatever I experienced wasn't just the placebo effect.

I took mushrooms once though and had a great "trip." Indescribably vivid hallucinations at one point. Good environment.

That talk about genetic damage from taking LSD is IMO totally BS.

 

[Saint Nick]

Reading about hallucinigenic drugs and people's experiences is absolutely fascinating. So these drugs pretty much allow you to access different parts of your brain. Amazing!!!

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: jndietz
Reading about hallucinigenic drugs and people's experiences is absolutely fascinating. So these drugs pretty much allow you to access different parts of your brain. Amazing!!!

It's more like taking the shielding off your network cables and seeing what happens. Interference. Lots and lots of interference.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: Beev


It isn't toxic, isn't considered addictive, and doesn't hurt you. It just makes you see things as far as I can tell. Can someone with more knowledge explain it to me? ZaneJohnson?

Isn't that just so cool? I want to try it sometime but I think I am going to have a friend put me in a straight jacket first.

 

[eflat]

You know what else I want to know is what would happen if you took LSD while taking a prescription anti-psychotic like Seroquel. Do you think it would keep you under control?

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: eflat
You know what else I want to know is what would happen if you took LSD while taking a prescription anti-psychotic like Seroquel. Do you think it would keep you under control?

Anti-psychotics block dopamine activity; LSD is a serotonin drug. You'd still trip out really hard, but you'd show signs of parkinsons disease.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: eflat
You know what else I want to know is what would happen if you took LSD while taking a prescription anti-psychotic like Seroquel. Do you think it would keep you under control?

Anti-psychotics block dopamine activity; LSD is a serotonin drug. You'd still trip out really hard, but you'd show signs of parkinsons disease.

Mind if I ask where you obtained this knowledge?

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: eflat

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: eflat
You know what else I want to know is what would happen if you took LSD while taking a prescription anti-psychotic like Seroquel. Do you think it would keep you under control?

Anti-psychotics block dopamine activity; LSD is a serotonin drug. You'd still trip out really hard, but you'd show signs of parkinsons disease.

Mind if I ask where you obtained this knowledge?

Seroquel is a dopamine blocker; link

Quetiapine (Seroquel) works by blocking the receptors in the brain that dopamine acts on. This prevents the excessive activity of dopamine and helps to control schizophrenia.

Parkinson's disease is caused by the inability to produce dopamine: link

The discovery that the lack of the chemical, dopamine, is associated with the debilitating ailment, Parkinson's disease, encouraged researchers to investigate ways to increase levels of the molecules. In addition, researchers have been developing new drugs that act on dopamine receptors.

The drug commonly given to treat Parkinsons is L-Dopa: link

Levodopa, or L-dopa, which is converted to dopamine in the brain, remains the gold standard for treating Parkinson's disease.

Parkinson's disease causes shaking because dopamine is responsible for your motor skills: youtube video


Antipsychotic medication causes shaking because it's essentially self-inflicted parkinson's disease: link

Tardive dyskinesia (TD) is a type of dystonia, a disorder of the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) characterised by involuntary muscle contractions which force parts of the body into abnormal, and sometimes painful, movements or postures.
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TD is a secondary dystonia, mainly caused by the use of anti-psychotic drugs.

LSD messes you up because it fits in the same receptor as serotonin: link

Evidence from studies with phenylisopropylamine hallucinogens indicates that the 5HT2A receptor is the likely target for the initiation of events leading to hallucinogenic activity associated with LSD and related drugs.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: tidehigh
read about the texas state goverments push for the federal courts to make it illegal because of the mexican immigration problem. i don't know all details but i pretty sure this was why it finally got passed federally. as i mentioned before, i can't prove anything at work because i'm not able to find links.

LSD is a different ballgame, no doubt. i still think it should be ok for special psychologists to try LSD in certain mental illness cases. Its should be available for testing, at the very least, along with MDMA

you shoudl also read about hoe Dow, Dupont and Monsanto lobbied like crazy in the late 20 and early 30s to get hemp banned because its pretty much superior to cotton in every way and has many more uses + itll grow fucking anywhere

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Unmoosical

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

The reason it's illegal is people think the only reason a drug should be illegal are addictiveness and OD possibility.

Flashbacks are indication enough that it permanently affects the brain

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: tidehigh
read about the texas state goverments push for the federal courts to make it illegal because of the mexican immigration problem. i don't know all details but i pretty sure this was why it finally got passed federally. as i mentioned before, i can't prove anything at work because i'm not able to find links.

LSD is a different ballgame, no doubt. i still think it should be ok for special psychologists to try LSD in certain mental illness cases. Its should be available for testing, at the very least, along with MDMA

you shoudl also read about hoe Dow, Dupont and Monsanto lobbied like crazy in the late 20 and early 30s to get hemp banned because its pretty much superior to cotton in every way and has many more uses + itll grow fucking anywhere

Hemp would have probably become the worst invasive species we'd ever see, and American ecology would have been decimated.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: tidehigh
read about the texas state goverments push for the federal courts to make it illegal because of the mexican immigration problem. i don't know all details but i pretty sure this was why it finally got passed federally. as i mentioned before, i can't prove anything at work because i'm not able to find links.

LSD is a different ballgame, no doubt. i still think it should be ok for special psychologists to try LSD in certain mental illness cases. Its should be available for testing, at the very least, along with MDMA

you shoudl also read about hoe Dow, Dupont and Monsanto lobbied like crazy in the late 20 and early 30s to get hemp banned because its pretty much superior to cotton in every way and has many more uses + itll grow fucking anywhere

Hemp would have probably become the worst invasive species we'd ever see, and American ecology would have been decimated.

it wouldent have been any worse that that damn chocking vine they have in the south

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
When One loses a leg, One knows that the leg is Not growing up again. But when people do things that damage the brain they do not see the damages, so ?out of sight out of mind? they think that everything is an OK. The main reason that Drugs makes One feel they way they do when taken is because they alter Brain Neurochemistry, and thus create an illusionary states.

These types of drugs have the very High potential to alter the Neurotransmitters, and they would stay way. I.e. altered.

Depending on the person unique Chemical equilibrium of Brian Neurochemistry. The result of playing with Drugs and chemical agents as mentioned in this thread can be from the subtle to extreme.

When taken there is always physiological outcome whether One can see it or Not. People that are knowledgeable and experience in work with people that acquire Brain Injuries can spot a person that does this stuff very easily even when the person is Not "high".

Schizophrenia?s Brain Neurochemistry has a chemical structure similar to LSD. Many years ago LSD was actually used to research Schizophrenia. This research stopped when it was apparent that it is creating more Schizophrenia and offer No cure.

There are many cases of people that became permanent Schizophrenic from one doze of LCD; others needed more ?Trips? to permanently alter the system.

So make sure that your life is organized (financial and personal affairs) with the knowledge that the next doze can do it (alter the Neurotransmitters for ever) and everything in life would be permanently different.

Why do you capitalize random words in your posts?