Why is Marijuana Illegal???????

[IEatChildren]

I'm too lazy to read all of the posts here, but I'll say what I do know.

Like Ynog said, it was made illegal because of the paper and textiles industries because it was much cheaper to produce and it was more resistant than many other fabrics and papers. The government in the 30's greatly exaggerated the effect of marijuana (Has anyone seen Reefer Madness?). The drug use of the plant was used as an excuse to make it illegal because it was bad for textiles and paper.
In Ontario, the government has pseudo-legalized marijuana ina sense. You require a prescription/government authorization to grow it, but you HAVE to buy it from the government. The plants that the government sell have a THC content of more or less 10% whereas the plants that are grown here (Quebec) in general have a content near 60%.
At 10% you'll probably get high, but you'd be okay to drive a car. The stuff that people here smoke is DAMN strong, and I see tons of people driving while high. As far as I've been able to tell, it doesn't quite affect your judgment the way alcohol would, nor does it impair your senses and reflexes. At least not to a point that would really make it dangerous. And when it does, the person KNOWS that their not in the right state to drive.
Also, I know a lot of construction workers, including some of my close friends, and I'd say a good 90% of them smoke weed (Quebec weed, which if you're a connoisseur, would know is some, if not the best in the world ). And I'd still trust them to build the house I live in, or the building I work in.

 

[ander]

Watch the movie Grass.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: IEatChildren
I'm too lazy to read all of the posts here, but I'll say what I do know.

Like Ynog said, it was made illegal because of the paper and textiles industries because it was much cheaper to produce and it was more resistant than many other fabrics and papers. The government in the 30's greatly exaggerated the effect of marijuana (Has anyone seen Reefer Madness?). The drug use of the plant was used as an excuse to make it illegal because it was bad for textiles and paper.
In Ontario, the government has pseudo-legalized marijuana ina sense. You require a prescription/government authorization to grow it, but you HAVE to buy it from the government. The plants that the government sell have a THC content of more or less 10% whereas the plants that are grown here (Quebec) in general have a content near 60%.
At 10% you'll probably get high, but you'd be okay to drive a car. The stuff that people here smoke is DAMN strong, and I see tons of people driving while high. As far as I've been able to tell, it doesn't quite affect your judgment the way alcohol would, nor does it impair your senses and reflexes. At least not to a point that would really make it dangerous. And when it does, the person KNOWS that their not in the right state to drive.
Also, I know a lot of construction workers, including some of my close friends, and I'd say a good 90% of them smoke weed (Quebec weed, which if you're a connoisseur, would know is some, if not the best in the world ). And I'd still trust them to build the house I live in, or the building I work in.

LOL!
60% THC? Go smoke another.

Dirtweed will have maybe 2% THC. Even the very best strains that are absolutely laden with trichomes measure out around 12% THC. Think about it. It's a flower, MOST of the mass is plant matter. Only the trichomes contain THC.

 

[Tetsuo]

It's not illegal in teh BC, Canada

 

[freegeeks]

it's not illegal where I live

 

[alocurto]

Watch your friends smoke it while you are sober. You will see why.

 

[Xzibit]

Well, its not really because it will do more harm than cigarettes, its your actions that can potentially harm/kill yourself or others.

 

[Atlantean]

Cause they think its bad for you. Don't ask who they are if you have to ask, then you aren't ready to know.

 

[bittersweet81]

Originally posted by: Xzibit
Well, its not really because it will do more harm than cigarettes, its your actions that can potentially harm/kill yourself or others.

Yeah I'm always killing people when I get high. You'd be surprised how many people you can kill sitting on the couch, listening to music and eating doritos. It's a very lethal combination.

You might wanna do a bit more research before you post. The sh!t they put on TV is not very factual.

 

[bittersweet81]

Originally posted by: alocurto
Watch your friends smoke it while you are sober. You will see why.

OK did that.
Here's what I got:

Lots of laughing
Video Games
Music
Munchies
TV
Disc Golf

No yelling, fighting, killing, hurting, ect...

Oh yeah now I get it.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: alocurto
Watch your friends smoke it while you are sober. You will see why.

Nothing happens?

 

[bittersweet81]

Originally posted by: ander
Watch the movie Grass.

Did it.
Good movie.

Sad but true.

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: bittersweet81

Originally posted by: ander
Watch the movie Grass.

Did it.
Good movie.

Sad but true.

For anybody who hasn't seen Grass, I highly suggest you do so. It can be streamed from some website, cant remember exact url and I'm at work right now so I can't go find it.

I think it was www.pottv.net

not sure though

 

[alocurto]

This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

In response to above. It does all those things, u are absolutley right. My friends smoke all day and night, they love it. They have no money, no job, and eat food and spend their parents money. Great, we need this to be legall so EVERYONE can be like that. If you make it legall more people will try it an be lazy.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: alocurto
This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

Pot makes you lazy? At least while you're high it makes you lazy. As for the dumb part, that's very debatable. Some of the best intelligent conversations I've ever had were while I was high.

Also, if it was legal, it would be regulated. You probably wouldn't be allowed to smoke it in just any bar. There would most likely be special bars just for marijuana. You can't get that high from being around people smoking pot, either. You might get a contact high, but you're not going to get stoned out of your gourd just by getting a little secondhand smoke in the air.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: alocurto
This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

2-ton: I thought your marist college edumacation was better than this.

pot makes u lazy if you choose to be lazy, many smokers choose to do things when stoned others use it as a tool for relaxation. BUT WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I CANT BE LAZY?

Where are you getting your information about "if it were legal many people would do it", I have yet to meet someone that was like yeah i really want to try pot but that whole legal issue is stopping me....

as far as second hand smoke goes........dont hang out with smokers! dont goto pot bars! If it were legal i dont think it would be legal in restarants and bars it would be a private use only sort of thing.

Second hand smoke does NOT get you high.

POT DOES NOT MAKE YOU DUMB!

you are smarter than this man.......you disappointed me thoroughly with that completely inaccurate post.

 

[alocurto]

alright already. I don't care if it's legall or not, I don't want any part of that crap.

 

[alocurto]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: alocurto
This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

2-ton: I thought your marist college edumacation was better than this.

pot makes u lazy if you choose to be lazy, many smokers choose to do things when stoned others use it as a tool for relaxation. BUT WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I CANT BE LAZY?

Where are you getting your information about "if it were legal many people would do it", I have yet to meet someone that was like yeah i really want to try pot but that whole legal issue is stopping me....

as far as second hand smoke goes........dont hang out with smokers! dont goto pot bars! If it were legal i dont think it would be legal in restarants and bars it would be a private use only sort of thing.

Second hand smoke does NOT get you high.

POT DOES NOT MAKE YOU DUMB!

you are smarter than this man.......you disappointed me thoroughly with that completely inaccurate post.

I am not saying that people are waiting to try it till it's legall. Many people don't wanna try it but if it becomes legall they may say "Hey, it must be ok. I'll give it a shot" But that's just what I think, I am a crazy person.

For some reason I have been told second hand smoke DOES get you high to an extent. I guess I was misinformed. I always see people trying to get dogs high and letting people sit in while they bake out a car to get a little. It must be that when they are high they come up with these great ideas and experiments to do since pot does not make you dumb and everything.

If you wanna smoke you should be able too. DO what you want to do. I am sure there is some harm physically with it. Not for me but if u like it go nuts. Last thing I need is the munchies.

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: alocurto

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: alocurto
This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

2-ton: I thought your marist college edumacation was better than this.

pot makes u lazy if you choose to be lazy, many smokers choose to do things when stoned others use it as a tool for relaxation. BUT WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I CANT BE LAZY?

Where are you getting your information about "if it were legal many people would do it", I have yet to meet someone that was like yeah i really want to try pot but that whole legal issue is stopping me....

as far as second hand smoke goes........dont hang out with smokers! dont goto pot bars! If it were legal i dont think it would be legal in restarants and bars it would be a private use only sort of thing.

Second hand smoke does NOT get you high.

POT DOES NOT MAKE YOU DUMB!

you are smarter than this man.......you disappointed me thoroughly with that completely inaccurate post.

I am not saying that people are waiting to try it till it's legall. Many people don't wanna try it but if it becomes legall they may say "Hey, it must be ok. I'll give it a shot" But that's just what I think, I am a crazy person.

For some reason I have been told second hand smoke DOES get you high to an extent. I guess I was misinformed. I always see people trying to get dogs high and letting people sit in while they bake out a car to get a little. It must be that when they are high they come up with these great ideas and experiments to do since pot does not make you dumb and everything.

If you wanna smoke you should be able too. DO what you want to do. I am sure there is some harm physically with it. Not for me but if u like it go nuts. Last thing I need is the munchies.

Going on your first point. You can also make the argument that if it is legal, it will take the galmour and defiance out of it. Since it is a teenagers nature to rebel, smoking pot will no longer be a rebellion and coincidentally less people will smoke.

The exact same thing happend during alcohol prohibition. More people started drinking when it was made illegal. When the amendment was repealed, drinking went down.

 

[CrazyDe1]

I don't smoke weed but I think it should be illegal along with prostitution, a lot of other drugs. The reason why people vote to outlaw these is insecurity with themselves. I too don't think people should be regulated from themselves. If you want to enforce something enforce maybe driving under the influence of marijuana or disorderly conduct, not ban the thing entirely. By insecurity I mean something analogous to the circumcision debates that always go on with both sides taking whatever side they're on. They're afraid of becoming a minority and argue and argue just to get people to think their side is better. In reality, it's not really an issue and no one really cares because one is not better than the other but people who are insecure argue because they're afraid they're going to become in the minority.

FFMCobalt is insecure. He comes up with all these illogical reasons why weed should be illegal because he thinks he's in the minority and more and more people are smoking weed and he doesn't like this. He finds retarded ways to justify his position just because he's slowly becoming in the minority. If he was secure he would let others do their own thing and do his own thing without trying to impose his groundless arguments on others. This it might kill someone and outlawing it saves lives is BS anyways. "I don't smoke weed and because I feel like a minority it should be illegal and you guys might go and kill someone because you're on it"

The law isn't going to do anything. The people who would smoke weed and be obnoxious on it anyways are going to do it REGARDLESS. Outlawing it is just a waste of resources and an infringement on individual freedoms. I would also argue that by taxing and regulating it you could have extra income for other things. Imagine how much money the government would make from taxing marijuana.

 

[alocurto]

Originally posted by: hopeless879

Originally posted by: alocurto

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: alocurto
This response could be way out in left field but does it have anything to do with what opium did to China? Pot makes u lazy and dumb. If it was legall many people would do it. The second hand smoke would not only be bad for you like cigarettes but it would make u get high too. So bascially anyone around you would be affected. Thus, if u went to a bar and people were smoking it, u would be affected and no longer capable to drive. Alcohol doesn't work like that. And cigarettes hurt everyone but they do not impair you.

just my 2 cents.

2-ton: I thought your marist college edumacation was better than this.

pot makes u lazy if you choose to be lazy, many smokers choose to do things when stoned others use it as a tool for relaxation. BUT WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I CANT BE LAZY?

Where are you getting your information about "if it were legal many people would do it", I have yet to meet someone that was like yeah i really want to try pot but that whole legal issue is stopping me....

as far as second hand smoke goes........dont hang out with smokers! dont goto pot bars! If it were legal i dont think it would be legal in restarants and bars it would be a private use only sort of thing.

Second hand smoke does NOT get you high.

POT DOES NOT MAKE YOU DUMB!

you are smarter than this man.......you disappointed me thoroughly with that completely inaccurate post.

I am not saying that people are waiting to try it till it's legall. Many people don't wanna try it but if it becomes legall they may say "Hey, it must be ok. I'll give it a shot" But that's just what I think, I am a crazy person.

For some reason I have been told second hand smoke DOES get you high to an extent. I guess I was misinformed. I always see people trying to get dogs high and letting people sit in while they bake out a car to get a little. It must be that when they are high they come up with these great ideas and experiments to do since pot does not make you dumb and everything.

If you wanna smoke you should be able too. DO what you want to do. I am sure there is some harm physically with it. Not for me but if u like it go nuts. Last thing I need is the munchies.

Going on your first point. You can also make the argument that if it is legal, it will take the galmour and defiance out of it. Since it is a teenagers nature to rebel, smoking pot will no longer be a rebellion and coincidentally less people will smoke.

The exact same thing happend during alcohol prohibition. More people started drinking when it was made illegal. When the amendment was repealed, drinking went down.

But you can also argue that pot would become like cigarettes. It will be more widely available. I would think that more people have tried cigarettes then pot.

They can go ahead and make it legall, It wouldn't bother me but I was just pointing out some reasons why it is probably considered illegal.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: alocurto

Originally posted by: hopeless879

Originally posted by: alocurto

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: alocurto


But you can also argue that pot would become like cigarettes. It will be more widely available. I would think that more people have tried cigarettes then pot.

They can go ahead and make it legall, It wouldn't bother me but I was just pointing out some reasons why it is probably considered illegal.

die thread die

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: alocurto

But you can also argue that pot would become like cigarettes. It will be more widely available. I would think that more people have tried cigarettes then pot.

They can go ahead and make it legall, It wouldn't bother me but I was just pointing out some reasons why it is probably considered illegal.

There is a huge difference with pot and cigarettes though. Cigarettes are highly addictive, pot is not nearly as close to as addictive as cigarretes are. Thats the reason there are so many smokers, not because its widely availible, but becuase of how addictive it is.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: hopeless879

Originally posted by: alocurto

But you can also argue that pot would become like cigarettes. It will be more widely available. I would think that more people have tried cigarettes then pot.

They can go ahead and make it legall, It wouldn't bother me but I was just pointing out some reasons why it is probably considered illegal.

There is a huge difference with pot and cigarettes though. Cigarettes are highly addictive, pot is not nearly as close to as addictive as marijuana is. Thats the reason there are so many smokers, not because its widely availible, but becuase of how addictive it is.

Anyway, I completely agree with gigapet, CrazyDe1, and hopeless879.