Why is nudity/pr0n/sex related things illegal for people under 18?

fatbaby

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I mean, why can't a 15 year old go see a pr0n0 or a 16 year old watch american pie in a theater w/o a guardian present.

Will sex/nudity encourage sex/nudity in the person that watches it? Or will the person that watches it go out and rape or kill someone?

And why shield our kids? They probably already know what "69" and "gay" means in the 4th grade.
 

rudeguy

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its so that parents have control over what their kids see...if you had kids you would understand wanting to control what little you can
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
its so that parents have control over what their kids see...if you had kids you would understand wanting to control what little you can

Yup, it leaves the decision up to the parent.

How many 16 year olds DON'T want porn? How many parents want their 16 year olds to be able to purchase porn?

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Whisper

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Because they somehow needed to standardize/objectify the age at which people are considered mature enough to handle most decisions for themselves, and 18 was deemed to be it. In all honesty, I'd say it's actually a fairly decent estimate for most people.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
18 is the age when you're considered an adult

no...adulthood depends on what you are talking about...cigarettes, voting and porn yes. Alcohol no. In some states you can have sex as early as 14.
 

fatbaby

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Originally posted by: Whisper
Because they somehow needed to standardize/objectify the age at which people are considered mature enough to handle most decisions for themselves, and 18 was deemed to be it. In all honesty, I'd say it's actually a fairly decent estimate for most people.

Yeah but what is so harmful about pr0n? It will convince someone to rape someone?
 

clicknext

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Maybe it'll encourage kids to have sex, resulting in teenage pregnancy... that and most parents don't want their kids to have sex at an early age.
 
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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
18 is the age when you're considered an adult

no...adulthood depends on what you are talking about...cigarettes, voting and porn yes. Alcohol no. In some states you can have sex as early as 14.

And since we were talking about porn, that's why I said it
 

fatbaby

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Originally posted by: clicknext
Maybe it'll encourage kids to have sex, resulting in teenage pregnancy...

Yeah but you can also same the same about counter-strike. It could encourage kids to shoot guns, resulting in murder.
 

jurzdevil

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because people like the pta and other old morons didnt get enough parental love or got the wrong kind of parental love when they were young.

 

Whisper

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I've often wondered that myself...but I do believe that parents should be able to control many things about their children's lives up to a point, pornography/nudity being one of them. If the parent doesn't think porn is that bad, then he/she can let the child see it earlier.

In all honesty though, I would think that exposure to pornography at too young an age would have an impact on a person's outlook. I believe it's been shown to cause people (men especially) to objectify members of the opposite sex. And once dehumanization takes place, even if only to a small degree, violent sexual crimes are more likely to occur.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: fatbaby
Originally posted by: clicknext
Maybe it'll encourage kids to have sex, resulting in teenage pregnancy...

Yeah but you can also same the same about counter-strike. It could encourage kids to shoot guns, resulting in murder.

video games have a rating system now too...not enforced...but one is in place
 

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I believe that's age is considered to be the point in ones life where they are "expected" to makes rational, adult like decisions.
 

thraxes

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What was the qoute from the SouthPark movie (not so sure)?

"Killing and Maiming on TV is OK but absolutely no bad Language and nudity" - Kyles Mom

This is all very culture bound though: In the US people freak out when they see titties in TV ads at 2PM during popular chat shows, but that is precisely what we get here in Germany (a softporn film is available at 11:45 on saturdays if interest goes further - all on free to view cable TV), on the other hand action blockbusters or other movies that just may have a hint of violence are strongly edited, even if they are shown at 11PM at night. Oh and bad language is kinda funny, every 5 year old here knows "Scheisse" and its proper use
 

tcsenter

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Yeah but what is so harmful about pr0n? It will convince someone to rape someone?
Everything about it is harmful to an impressionable (read: young) mind whom has not yet developed firm notions/views about what is 'healthy' and 'normal' (socially acceptable and mainstream) sexual behavior.

Do you mean to tell me you see nothing wrong with ten year olds watching Anal Madness #12?
 

rubenswm

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We have these things called morals here. Just because we've failed to be moral on one issue doesn't mean we should let our morals fall through on another.
What a stupid question
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: rubenswm
We have these things called morals here. Just because we've failed to be moral on one issue doesn't mean we should let our morals fall through on another.
What a stupid question

Yes, welcome to the United States, where violence on tv is acceptable and encouraged, where often gruesome crimes are played out in excruciating detail (i.e. CSI), but heaven forbid anyone show a nipple or say a bad word..

Sex is not immoral.
 

Shawn

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What I don't understand is why are people allowed to drive at 16 but not allowed to see a rated R movie until they are 17. :|
 

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Yeah but what is so harmful about pr0n? It will convince someone to rape someone?
Everything about it is harmful to an impressionable (read: young) mind whom has not yet developed firm notions/views about what is 'healthy' and 'normal' (socially acceptable and mainstream) sexual behavior.

Do you mean to tell me you see nothing wrong with ten year olds watching Anal Madness #12?

Of course there is, if they haven't seen #'s 1-11 yet. They won't get the plot or understand the characters. What would be the point?

 

Howard

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Originally posted by: clicknext
Maybe it'll encourage kids to have sex, resulting in teenage pregnancy... that and most parents don't want their kids to have sex at an early age.
Kids will want to have sex regardless of their pornographic viewing experience. Besides, I haven't hurt anybody yet (and I've seen LOTS of porn).
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Aboroth
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Yeah but what is so harmful about pr0n? It will convince someone to rape someone?
Everything about it is harmful to an impressionable (read: young) mind whom has not yet developed firm notions/views about what is 'healthy' and 'normal' (socially acceptable and mainstream) sexual behavior. Do you mean to tell me you see nothing wrong with ten year olds watching Anal Madness #12?
Of course there is, if they haven't seen #'s 1-11 yet. They won't get the plot or understand the characters. What would be the point?
Two things scare me. 1: You knew the name of an anal-based porn. 2: I could verify off the top of my head that you didn't use a fake title.
 
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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Aboroth
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Yeah but what is so harmful about pr0n? It will convince someone to rape someone?
Everything about it is harmful to an impressionable (read: young) mind whom has not yet developed firm notions/views about what is 'healthy' and 'normal' (socially acceptable and mainstream) sexual behavior. Do you mean to tell me you see nothing wrong with ten year olds watching Anal Madness #12?
Of course there is, if they haven't seen #'s 1-11 yet. They won't get the plot or understand the characters. What would be the point?
Two things scare me. 1: You knew the name of an anal-based porn. 2: I could verify off the top of my head that you didn't use a fake title.

Ironic that you too, know the name and can confirm that's a real title :Q
 
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