Why is our economy always better under democrat presidents?

[piasabird]

When Muslims are busy killing each other we should just sit back and watch. At least they are occupied. Otherwise the terrorists would be trying to bomb Israel and attack western countries.

 

[ivwshane]

and? Doesn't mean things are worse now - just the methods and tactics have changed. The reason those stats went up? Maybe because they work and/or the only tool available to stop a run away majority/exec branch? Other things worked in the past but to point to a couple stats ignores the greater context.

Lol! Another righty impervious to facts who relies on gut feelings and conspiracy, color me surprised. Or did you actually have something of substance to support your claim and counter facts besides your gut?

 

[piasabird]

How do you define a good or better economy? For instance right now the economy is improving, but the job participation rate is really low. A lot of people are hopeless and have given up.

For instance in the beginning of the Bush(2) years there was 9/11 which brought about all kind of financial problems. We also had 2 wars, one of which was in Afghanistan, and another in Iraq. Then right at the end of the Bush Years there was the Banking Crisis. We all know this was a bad thing, but it is unclear what exactly caused it and who or what we should blame it on. I wonder whether you can actually blame the economy on a president.

All I know for sure is that there are at least 1 or more crisis events during the time that a president is in office. From my perspective it is more the fault of who is running Congress.

It is hard to track what is going on in the economy and prove it is linked to a president. Stuff happens and president just reacts. For instance you could say the Housing and real estate crisis was caused by democrats or the courts or the president relaxing the rules it takes to purchase a house. Trying to be too inclusive and enabling everyone to buy a house might have been the cause of that. While trying to protect minorities and enabling them to purchase housing, our compassion caused the banks to make more real estate loans for fear of being sued for discrimination. All of these problems are a lot more complex than some silly graph.

 

[hal2kilo]

Who cares if it works in fact, as long as it works in theory and it is adhered to 100% of the time, otherwise, RINO.

It's all about their misguided since of morality, which always overules "if it works".

 

[xBiffx]

I loled at that. Only you have the vision to see something for what it truly is. Who is on the high horse? :hmm:

I'm not talking about something that requires much in the way of objectivity. There really isn't something to interpret here. Was the guy that started this study an avid democrat and supporter of presidential candidates both past and present or not? Calling out that fact isn't hard, nor subjective. You know, seeing it for what is it. There is no high horse over here, just stating facts.

Acting like that fact shouldn't matter is pretty silly. Especially claiming it doesn't matter because of some so called prestige or reputation.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Lol! Another righty impervious to facts who relies on gut feelings and conspiracy, color me surprised. Or did you actually have something of substance to support your claim and countery facts besides your gut?

LOL, as opposed to a lefty who picks 3 random stats to claim an entire premise is wrong. The point is, the right and left aren't any more "crazy" than they were in previous administrations, it's just that time smooths them over. Sheesh - do you not remember the impeachment FFS? Yes, the GOP used tactics to stop BHO more than they had in the past but that doesn't disprove anything I stated(especially in response to what I was commenting on)

 

[ivwshane]

LOL, as opposed to a lefty who picks 3 random stats to claim an entire premise is wrong. The point is, the right and left aren't any more "crazy" than they were in previous administrations, it's just that time smooths them over. Sheesh - do you not remember the impeachment FFS? Yes, the GOP used tactics to stop BHO more than they had in the past but that doesn't disprove anything I stated(especially in response to what I was commenting on)

So no, you don't have any counter facts. Got it.
In an institution where business is conducted by procedures and routine processes I'm not sure what exactly you were expecting to be different other than the frequency of procedures used in such an institution.

 

[HomerJS]

The democrats downsize our military and then we get in trouble and the republicans have to build the country back up. Right now Obama is downsizing the military and Both Russia and China are causing trouble and ISIS is on the move trying to take over the middle east. There is absolutely no reason to be downsizing the military at this time. Democrats are cowards that cut and run and republicans are war mongers that protect this country. It is like two sides to a coin.

If you would have been paying attention through history of the last 50 years you may already know this. It takes a while for people to catch on to reality.

Maybe if our military was smaller Bush wouldn't have been stupid enough to get us into Iraq

 

[piasabird]

Strong countries often invade weak countries. How many of these countries are invading Russia?

 

[piasabird]

We had a president that put up with the Iran Hostage Crisis. How come we did not bomb the hell out of them? We had a weak democrat in office.

 

[thraashman]

Strong countries often invade weak countries. How many of these countries are invading Russia?

We had a president that put up with the Iran Hostage Crisis. How come we did not bomb the hell out of them? We had a weak democrat in office.

Haven't I already talked to you today about condensing your posts into a single message? Is getting your post count up that important to you? Also, your posts are becoming increasingly detached from reality and psychotic. Do you need someone to help you reorder your meds?

 

[soundforbjt]

Strong countries often invade weak countries. How many of these countries are invading Russia?

How much bigger is our military spending compared to Russia? We could cut it in half and still would be spending more than them.

 

[Jhhnn]

and? Doesn't mean things are worse now - just the methods and tactics have changed. The reason those stats went up? Maybe because they work and/or the only tool available to stop a run away majority/exec branch? Other things worked in the past but to point to a couple stats ignores the greater context.

If you're saying that Dems should have done more of it during the Bush years, you might be right.

If you're saying that Repubs' tactics when out of the White House haven't been scurrilous since the Carter years, you'd be lying or delusional, take your pick. They've def become more bitterly obstructionist & petty since 2008.

America got fucked hard the last time they ran the show & they intend to keep it that way.

 

[Mani]

and? Doesn't mean things are worse now - just the methods and tactics have changed. The reason those stats went up? Maybe because they work and/or the only tool available to stop a run away majority/exec branch? Other things worked in the past but to point to a couple stats ignores the greater context.

Here's an opportunity for you to respond to facts with facts. Why don't you give examples of our "runaway exec branch"? Exactly what wildly unpopular things has Obama tried to push through that those brave republicans in congress have staved off?

 

[dank69]

We had a president that put up with the Iran Hostage Crisis. How come we did not bomb the hell out of them? We had a weak democrat in office.

The best way to recover hostages is to bomb the shut out of the area they are being held.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Speaking very broadly Democratic Presidents tend to be better managers because the Democratic party is a mob of people who have different goals but similar visions, Republican presidents tend to be more dominant leaders that don't solicit much feedback. Republican voters like rugged individuality which doesn't workout too well when you have many people & many goals to appease not always true but mostly true.

 

[dank69]

"With my recent tax cut I have some extra money so now I can create all those extra jobs I've always wanted to create" said no one ever.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The best way to recover hostages is to bomb the shut out of the area they are being held.

Yeah, pretty much. Works even better with 'nukes'.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here's an opportunity for you to respond to facts with facts. Why don't you give examples of our "runaway exec branch"? Exactly what wildly unpopular things has Obama tried to push through that those brave republicans in congress have staved off?

Well, Obama actually tries to run the govt rather than destroy it, putting him squarely on the Axis Of Eeeevil.

Repubs have actively denied & delayed what really are routine & necessary appointments to serve that end, waving Old Glory & praying to Jesus the whole time.

Only the most well indoctrinated fail to see them as shameless assholes.

 

[JEDIYoda]

These forums are getting more comical and sad all at once!!

The OP had to know that it did not matter if the report was truthful and unbiased!
There would be those who claim it was heavily biased!
There would be those who claim the author had an agenda......

Even the truth in these forum is not the truth! Why?

because there are too many idiots lurking who want to disprove and will stretch what is being said to meet their agenda.....

Hahahahaaaaaa...God I Love these frums!!

 

[trenchfoot]

"With my recent tax cut I have some extra money so now I can create all those extra jobs I've always wanted to create" said no one ever.

Well if that person is very wealthy, then they're going to do the logical thing which is to plow that tax cut money back into corrupting more politicians so the next tax cut they get will be even more than the last. Wash-rinse-repeat.

Much much easier to make a profit that way. As an added bonus, the rich get to suck even more money out of the middle class and the poor whose tax rates have to go up to cover the tax cuts the rich get. It's either that or social services get chopped.

Win-win for the rich.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Here's an opportunity for you to respond to facts with facts. Why don't you give examples of our "runaway exec branch"? Exactly what wildly unpopular things has Obama tried to push through that those brave republicans in congress have staved off?

Oh FFS. The judiciary has been political for quite some time. Using it as a bargaining chip(although weakly to the dismay of many) is why the numbers have increased.
Again, you can pick a few stats here and there to try to say my statement was wrong but you still miss the overall point. Just because some of you leftists are all butt hurt by the way the Republicans choose to oppose BHO doesn't mean it's worse than before. Sheesh. again see impeachment.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

So no, you don't have any counter facts. Got it.
In an institution where business is conducted by procedures and routine processes I'm not sure what exactly you were expecting to be different other than the frequency of procedures used in such an institution.

Uh again, the statement was broad so a few cherry picked stats doesn't change it. Tactics and issues change but opposition isn't any worse now than it was previously. You may hear more about it now due to information flow and the news cycles but FFS things aren't any worse for BHO than they were for Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. F'n cry babies.

 

[ivwshane]

Uh again, the statement was broad so a few cherry picked stats doesn't change it. Tactics and issues change but opposition isn't any worse now than it was previously. You may hear more about it now due to information flow and the news cycles but FFS things aren't any worse for BHO than they were for Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. F'n cry babies.

Yeah we get it, you like repeating yourself despite the facts that are presented to you that counter your claims.

Btw, how many times has a senator filibustered their own bill? When was the last time the US credit rating was downgraded below AAA (or downgraded at all due to raising/not raising the debt ceiling)?

I gotta hand it to you though, your bubble is strong! It just might be michael1980 strong, that's only a step below boomerang strong

 

[fskimospy]

Uh again, the statement was broad so a few cherry picked stats doesn't change it. Tactics and issues change but opposition isn't any worse now than it was previously. You may hear more about it now due to information flow and the news cycles but FFS things aren't any worse for BHO than they were for Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. F'n cry babies.

What stats would you accept? Be specific.