Why is prostitution illegal? **Now with 100% more POLE**

[Amused]

Originally posted by: hrothgar22

In related news, for what was dubbed as a 'monday morning flamefest', ATOT seems to have kept it together pretty well so far.

Because people in OT, for the most part, can have a conversation about an issue without mindlessly shooting political slogans at each other as if they were bullets.

 

I think all of three people have read more than the title of this thread.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I think all of three people have read more than the title of this thread.

And that makes this thread different from any other... how?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: zakee00
cliffnotes, IBTL, and DIAF.

I have seen you post IBTL numerous times. It's a bannable offense.

W<ho>TF cares?

 

[Baked]

Hmmm... wouldn't that make your wife a hooker and your husband a gigolo before you got married?

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I think all of three people have read more than the title of this thread.

Well, since about half the thread is people popping in just to post that same george carlin quote I'd say you're on the right track with that assertion.

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: illusion88
Victimless crime? VICTIMLESS CRIME!?

What about the prostitute who is held in prostitution by drugs from an abusive "pimp"? What about the prostitute that is beaten to death by her costumer? The Prostitute that is riddled with disease from unsafe sex. The prostitute who is homeless and in and out of jail. What about these people?

True, not all prostitutes live a life like this, and there are few that are top of the line call girls. But to say it is a victimless crime is ignorant.

most of the things u've listed are only because its illegal. hookers wouldn't have to turn to pimps and be at risk of predators if they were protected by the law. driving things underground is sa good way to riddle something with evil people.
just make alcohol illegal, and u will see the mobsters and gangters profiting and running the trade. its just how it is.

Exactly! This is why I am all for leagalising or at least decriminalising prostitution. These kind of things wouldnt happen. Look at abortation if you dont believe me. Alochol is another perfect example (ie. prohibition of the 1920s).

I wish I knew the statistics but I am willing to bet that these sort of crimes are non existant in amsterdanm. Prostitution is sanctioned by the government and I bet that hate crimes agaisnt these women dont happen in Amsterdanm.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Jzero
I feel the same way about prostitution that I feel about all forms of "morality" legislation.

You love it? Support it?

Would blow yourself up at a checkpoint for it?

Option C!

No, meaning I don't support laws that are intended to force some moral code on the public. Prostitution is "the oldest profession." How can any reasonable person believe that one could simply put pen to paper and *poof!* it will vanish?

So now we have entire police squads devoted to the losing battle against prostitution. It would make more sense to me to invest these resources insuring the safety the consenting adults who choose to partake in it and freeing those who are forced into the business without their consent.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Jzero
I feel the same way about prostitution that I feel about all forms of "morality" legislation.

You love it? Support it?

Would blow yourself up at a checkpoint for it?

Option C!

:Q

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Amused
Because people in OT, for the most part, can have a conversation about an issue without mindlessly shooting political slogans at each other as if they were bullets.

And they usually dont make up acronyms for groups they hate, either.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: SampSon
I think all of three people have read more than the title of this thread.

Well, since about half the thread is people popping in just to post that same george carlin quote I'd say you're on the right track with that assertion.

I hope he's doing well in rehab.

- M4H

 

[Tom]

it isn't a victimless crime, there isn't any such thing.

whether or not it should be legal, is a different matter. some of the problems with illegal prostitution, spread of disease, drug use, assault, slavery, etc, might be lessened if it was legal and regulated.

but legalizing something means a society is either giving tacit approval to something, or throwing up it's hands in the belief it can't deal with the issue, and I don't think either of those things are good ideas.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Tom
it isn't a victimless crime, there isn't any such thing.

Yes, there is.

whether or not it should be legal, is a different matter. some of the problems with illegal prostitution, spread of disease, drug use, assault, slavery, etc, might be lessened if it was legal and regulated.

but legalizing something means a society is either giving tacit approval to something, or throwing up it's hands in the belief it can't deal with the issue, and I don't think either of those things are a good idea.

And why should it be banned? What is so very wrong with this that two consenting adults should be barred from engaging in it?

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: alent1234
if prostitution was legal then women would be forced to be hookers or lose their unemployment benefits

then the terrorists would win

did you read that thread about the girl in germany too?

i thought that was really sad

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Tom
it isn't a victimless crime, there isn't any such thing.

whether or not it should be legal, is a different matter. some of the problems with illegal prostitution, spread of disease, drug use, assault, slavery, etc, might be lessened if it was legal and regulated.

but legalizing something means a society is either giving tacit approval to something, or throwing up it's hands in the belief it can't deal with the issue, and I don't think either of those things are good ideas.

It isn't a victimless crime because of asshats like you.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Tom
it isn't a victimless crime, there isn't any such thing.

Yes, there is.

whether or not it should be legal, is a different matter. some of the problems with illegal prostitution, spread of disease, drug use, assault, slavery, etc, might be lessened if it was legal and regulated.

but legalizing something means a society is either giving tacit approval to something, or throwing up it's hands in the belief it can't deal with the issue, and I don't think either of those things are a good idea.

And why should it be banned? What is so very wrong with this that two consenting adults should be barred from engaging in it?

Making it illegal doesn't "bar" people from engaging in it. On one level it means they may have to pay a price for engaging in it, which given the fact that it is detrimental in some ways to the society at large, is a reasonable point of view in my opinion.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Tom
it isn't a victimless crime, there isn't any such thing.

whether or not it should be legal, is a different matter. some of the problems with illegal prostitution, spread of disease, drug use, assault, slavery, etc, might be lessened if it was legal and regulated.

but legalizing something means a society is either giving tacit approval to something, or throwing up it's hands in the belief it can't deal with the issue, and I don't think either of those things are good ideas.

Since when does societies approval have anything whatso-fvcking-ever to do with whether it should be legal or not?

 

[TravisT]

I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: TravisT
I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

Banning prostitution causes the spread of STD's. Legalizing and regulating it reduces the spread. This is a fact. Ask Fausto, our friendly neighborhood thong-wearing CDC employee.

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: zakee00

Originally posted by: dullard
Prostitution is always legal in the US. The key is how you pay the prostitute. Pay in cash and you probably have broken a law (not true in all locations in the US). Pay by taking the person on a date and it is 100% legal. Dinner and a movie is the standard payment for sex.

:laugh:

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Tom

Making it illegal doesn't "bar" people from engaging in it. On one level it means they may have to pay a price for engaging in it, which given the fact that it is detrimental in some ways to the society at large, is a reasonable point of view in my opinion.

Are you of the opinion alcohol should be illegal? Society would benefit from people not drinking.

Cigs? Definately not helping anyone.

How about junk food? Junk food does not benefit society. Perhaps that should be illegal as well.

Sex outside of marriage? Not actually benefitting society, its pretty much a selfish act and can lead to children born out of wedlock. Might want to outlaw that as well.

SUVs should be banned. Not helping society, they're increasing the countries dependence on foreign oil. In fact, people really don't need anything besides a 4 door sedan for the most part. That should be the only car available.

Mini skirts maybe? They are distracting.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: TravisT
I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

STDs to run rampant? Sorry, that arguement has already been refuted.

So...whats the arguement?

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: TravisT
I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

Banning prostitution causes the spread of STD's. Legalizing and regulating it reduces the spread. This is a fact. Ask Fausto, our friendly neighborhood thong-wearing CDC employee.

How would you regulate such a thing? Not only would there be more sexual activity in each state, there would also be no sure way of regulating something like this.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: TravisT
I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

Banning prostitution causes the spread of STD's. Legalizing and regulating it reduces the spread. This is a fact. Ask Fausto, our friendly neighborhood thong-wearing CDC employee.

How would you regulate such a thing? Not only would there be more sexual activity in each state, there would also be no sure way of regulating something like this.

Many counties already regulate it. Many COUNTRIES regulate it, as well. It's been done and it is an irrefutable fact that legalization within thoses countries reduces the spread of STD's from prostitution.

Edit: Laws regarding prostitution are left to the municipalities and states, so it would be their job to set up any regulatory system.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: TravisT
I think the law regarding prostitution revolves around people abusing things and it is for their own safety that they outlaw some of these things. I personally am one of the rare people that believe most substances that impair your ability to function should remain illegal.

This is the same thing in my opinion. I may not be the one out there getting STD's. But that doesn't mean I want to see others getting them. That means we should try to make efforts to stop them. Prostitution is one of the things that will cause STD's to continue to run rampid in our society. Granted, it won't completely stop it, but atleast it is a measure of taking some action against it.

Banning prostitution causes the spread of STD's. Legalizing and regulating it reduces the spread. This is a fact. Ask Fausto, our friendly neighborhood thong-wearing CDC employee.

How would you regulate such a thing? Not only would there be more sexual activity in each state, there would also be no sure way of regulating something like this.

So you are opposed to sexual activity in general? I don't really see how more sexual activity is a bad thing...or anyone's concern but those participating.

As to how to regulate it...please read the current thread you are posting in, also see: The state of Nevada.