Why is prostitution illegal? **Now with 100% more POLE**

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

So in what manner are you using the term "consent"? In my opinion, consent is where an adult of sound mind agrees to something, with full understanding of the implications.

Sex of any kind, WITHOUT consent, is rape, and is, last I heard, also illegal.

So I ask: Who the fk are you to say what consenting adults should and should not do?

no need to resort to profanity.

first, prostitutes probably rarely have full understanding of the implications.

actually, no one ever has a full understanding of the implications.

second, they probably enter into prostitution out of some sort of duress, i.e. its the only way to make money and feed their crack habit. now, not all prostitutes will be that way, i suppose, but i'm guessing most of them do. under duress like that i'm unwilling to say they are 'consenting.'

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

So in what manner are you using the term "consent"? In my opinion, consent is where an adult of sound mind agrees to something, with full understanding of the implications.

Sex of any kind, WITHOUT consent, is rape, and is, last I heard, also illegal.

So I ask: Who the fk are you to say what consenting adults should and should not do?

no need to resort to profanity.

first, prostitutes probably rarely have full understanding of the implications.

actually, no one ever has a full understanding of the implications.

second, they probably enter into prostitution out of some sort of duress, i.e. its the only way to make money and feed their crack habit. now, not all prostitutes will be that way, i suppose, but i'm guessing most of them do. under duress like that i'm unwilling to say they are 'consenting.'

If someone else is forcing a woman to prostitute themselves, then that's illegal; you can't force people to do much of anything under duress, whether it be mow your lawn, watch your kids, or give you sex. Now if you're saying women are prostituting themselves because of a crack habit or something, that's not really 'under duress', as it's still one's own choice. Heck, I go to work most days 'under duress' - I'd rather not go, but they won't keep giving me the checks unless I show up and do something useful. I'm morally opposed to prostitution, but not opposed to legalization of it.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Then 20 years later, Bam! Herpes!
-Peter Griffin

Victemless?

 

[imthebadguy]

illegal fine, but i would never goto one....whatever floats your boat tho

 

[abc]

man needs to bang. animals need to bang... women aren't built to need to seek banging to the extent males do... and i'm talking about all the animals, including us.

the problem is we screw ourselves by being 'civilized' and have laws that block what we need - banging.

it's illegal because ? beats me, but

it's considered indecent and immoral to sell yourself I guess. I can understand. it's not the 'norm'.

The other side of it is, if you make it legal, wouldn't that be saying that the law has no problem if you want to sell yourself for sex.

I guess the civilized world of law and society doesn't want to be seen as having allowed that.

it's easier to make it illegal/keep it illegal than to make it legal, and have to deal with all the societal change it would create.

 

[xospec1alk]

Wow i can't believe this thread is still going...anyways, what sorts of societal changes would legalizing prostitution bring?

and most of us have a problem with selling ourselves for sex, but other don't so why should we stop them?

 

[Schneider879]

Originally posted by: alent1234
if prostitution was legal then women would be forced to be hookers or lose their unemployment benefits

then the terrorists would win

bush= owned.

 

[Ricochet]

I'm part of the minority here that believes legalizing prostitution is a bad idea, especially in America. It would be just another blow to marriage and family. It's bad enough that the divorce rate has reached 50%. It's for the general interest of the public that our society does not condone such activity.

Those who want sex badly enough to pay should have no problem finding it. The law has no way of stopping these individuals. Legalization is not the answer. It may work for other countries, but America is not like other countries. We have too much problem with indulgence (look at obesity as an example) to even consider it.

It's unfortunate that we don't have more opinions from the other gender. Since prostitution consist mainly of women, their opinion would mean more to me.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Disclaimer: I haven't read through this thread.

Prostitution is nothing more than a moral thoughtcrime; an attempt by some people (the majority?) to impose their moral views on everyone. My own view is that anything sexual between consenting adults should of course be legal.

are they really consenting? that is a bitch to answer.

True.. But at some point you just have to say that someone is. Otherwise, you open up a can of worms that can apply to EVERY business contract of any kind. Or, for that matter, anything that any adult is given responsibility for.

 

[gutharius]

Legalize it that way women can seek worker protection from pimps who use them as sex slaves for cash.

 

[xospec1alk]

Originally posted by: ricochet
I'm part of the minority here that believes legalizing prostitution is a bad idea, especially in America. It would be just another blow to marriage and family. It's bad enough that the divorce rate has reached 50%. It's for the general interest of the public that our society does not condone such activity.

Those who want sex badly enough to pay should have no problem finding it. The law has no way of stopping these individuals. Legalization is not the answer. It may work for other countries, but America is not like other countries. We have too much problem with indulgence (look at obesity as an example) to even consider it.

It's unfortunate that we don't have more opinions from the other gender. Since prostitution consist mainly of women, their opinion would mean more to me.

I don't believe that legalized prostitution has any affect on the divorce rate. Like you said, those who want sex badly enough[, married or not,] to pay should have no problem finding it. So why make it illegal? why arrest these people and throw them in jail? I personally don't think that availability paves the way for overindulgence. Of course it doesn't curb it, but those who will, will, and those who won't....won't. It should be up to the individual to decide.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: dullard
Prostitution is always legal in the US. The key is how you pay the prostitute. Pay in cash and you probably have broken a law (not true in all locations in the US). Pay by taking the person on a date and it is 100% legal. Dinner and a movie is the standard payment for sex.

thats the way I see it too!

 

[Lacyboi]

if they want to whore around, let them. they should come with paper work so that their customers know they're healthy...? but hey thas my opinion

 

[abc]

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Wow i can't believe this thread is still going...anyways, what sorts of societal changes would legalizing prostitution bring?

and most of us have a problem with selling ourselves for sex, but other don't so why should we stop them?

what i was thinking of would be things like having kids growing up realizing their bodies are worth X number of dollars.... $$ that are legally obtainable...

heck if i had a teen deciding to give sex instead of delivering pizza to make ends meet? ... even if the law also stipulates that prostitution will be legal for 18 and over if he/she wishes...

the point is, a whole generation growing up with knowing it's legal... i was thinking of that kind of societal change as one thought.

We'd have kids deciding between working for Gap, Dominos, waitresses, and turning tricks.

And who will likely be paying for sex?... guys, teenage guys, and in much larger numbers than women... On one hand it'll be easier for them to 'get some' to quench the hormones... from guys that can 'score' that just want more, and guys that don't have game, BOTH groups adding to the pay for sex industry.

and it sure would't help how boys grow up to view females.

and sure wouldn't help how women view males...

 

[xospec1alk]

heck if i had a teen deciding to give sex instead of delivering pizza to make ends meet? ... even if the law also stipulates that prostitution will be legal for 18 and over if he/she wishes...

i think that assumes the teen would decide to prostitute themselves. Its the same as stripping, you make tons more money doing that, but why don't more women do that to make money? because at the end of the day, they just might be able to live with themselves. Making it legal simply makes it easier for them to choose that path without getting themselves thrown in jail.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: ricochet. Legalization is not the answer. It may work for other countries, but America is not like other countries. We have too much problem with indulgence (look at obesity as an example) to even consider it.

Ahh, the good old-fashioned "since there are people too dumb to make informed decisions for themselves, nobody should be allowed to make decisions for themselves" argument.

It was wrong before, and it's wrong now. Overindulgence is the individual's fault, not anyone else's fault. Are you going to blame the person who couldn't control themself, or are you going to blame all of society for giving that person the rights to make their own choices?

 

[Fritzo]

Prostitutes aren't the girls you see on TV, and the ones in Las Vegas brothels are NOT the norm across the country. The typical prostitute is addicted to some type of illegal substance and sells her body as her only way to get more. It breeds crime, disease, not to mention making areas undesireable to go to. This is only few of the problems prostitution causes. If you've ever dealt with a typical prosititute, you'd know why it's illegal (my wife is a police officer and arrested them all the time- the stories are sickening).

 

[xospec1alk]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Prostitutes aren't the girls you see on TV, and the ones in Las Vegas brothels are NOT the norm across the country. The typical prostitute is addicted to some type of illegal substance and sells her body as her only way to get more. It breeds crime, disease, not to mention making areas undesireable to go to. This is only few of the problems prostitution causes. If you've ever dealt with a typical prosititute, you'd know why it's illegal (my wife is a police officer and arrested them all the time- the stories are sickening).

The prostitutes in amsterdam were hot...

The argument in the rest of the thread is that the fact that it is illegal breeds crime and disease. legalizing it will put in place std testing, and get rid of people like pimps

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
It breeds crime, disease, not to mention making areas undesireable to go to. This is only few of the problems prostitution causes. If you've ever dealt with a typical prosititute, you'd know why it's illegal (my wife is a police officer and arrested them all the time- the stories are sickening).

All the things you just mentioned are a result of prostitution being illegal, not of the act of prostitution itself.

If you made cigarettes illegal you'd see a criminal underworld spring up for them, too, because there will always be people who choose to smoke, and they're going to get their cigs one way or another. Since it's now illegal, it's no longer regulated, and the underground industry that supports it must resist the authorities that are trying to stop it. All of these problems spring up from the act of making it illegal. Same thing happened with alcohol, too. And in each of these cases, people who cannot identify the cause/effect relationship at work will point to the problems- that they just made- as proof that the ban is needed.