Sure, there is no difference between an accident at a nuclear power plant and an accident at a coal or oil power plant.
Except maybe for the millions dead and an area the size of New Jersey made uninhabitable.
Aside from that, exactly the same thing.
There is a massive track record of problems with nuclear energy. Just look at any problems we have with regular companies like haliburton lately. That crap happens all the time. Cost cutting, reckless with safety, cover ups, government incompetence, etc. You think that crap ends with Nuclear?? No, it doesn't. Oh make more rules, watch it more! It doesn't help. And when nuclear goes bad it goes real bad. Way worse than anything else. You're so foolish to think you can control all the factors when it can't even be done now on less dangerous methods.
Sure, there is no difference between an accident at a nuclear power plant and an accident at a coal or oil power plant.
Except maybe for the millions dead and an area the size of New Jersey made uninhabitable.
Aside from that, exactly the same thing.
Techs,
You're not a conservative. Don't pull the same shit scare tactics they do. Coal slurry floods have destroyed towns and killed more people than 3mile island and Fukishima.
Refinery explosions have killed plenty. Hell shipping fires in an ammonium nitrate ship destroyed a large portion of Texas city.
Nukes create less waste by about 6 orders of magnitude than other forms of base power generation and all the waste is stored on site.
If we were smart we'd use the waste in Thorium or breeder reactors and "burn" it down.
I can't help but think of the nuclear reactors in Simcity: The game's creators either just don't care about reality, or they're staunchly anti-nuclear. Every nuclear power plant I ever tried in any of those games would experience a meltdown.Sure, there is no difference between an accident at a nuclear power plant and an accident at a coal or oil power plant.
Except maybe for the millions dead and an area the size of New Jersey made uninhabitable.
Aside from that, exactly the same thing.
Techs,
You're not a conservative. Don't pull the same shit scare tactics they do. Coal slurry floods have destroyed towns and killed more people than 3mile island and Fukishima.
Refinery explosions have killed plenty. Hell shipping fires in an ammonium nitrate ship destroyed a large portion of Texas city.
Nukes create less waste by about 6 orders of magnitude than other forms of base power generation and all the waste is stored on site.
If we were smart we'd use the waste in Thorium or breeder reactors and "burn" it down.
Though I will say that environmentalists and regulations are certainly welcome, at least as far as I'm concerned....
It can, it has already been technically proven feasible. The reason why we cannot is purely political - namely the banning of uranium reprocessing in America by Jimmy Carter, the cancellation of the IFR project by Bill Clinton, and other political reasons. If it wasn't for political issues, we could run the entire world on nuclear power for tens of thousands of years just using current known reserves of today. That's the direction China is headed in - estimates are that they want to build from 200-1500 reactors over the next 20-100 years. That's the kind of progress you can make when you don't have watermellon environmentalists subverting you at every turn.
People don't know shit about US nuclear reactors. Vermont Yankee went online in 1972 and was built using 1960's technology. It has no containment dome. In 2006 the owners, Entergy, upped the reactors output from 500MW to 630MW. The reactor has now been running for 7 years at 120 percent of designed output.
When Entergy purchased Vermont Yankee in 2002 they agreed to close the plant if the state of Vermont denied a Certificate of Public Good. They did this in order to get approval, which they needed, from Vermont to buy the plant. When they didn't get the Certificate they went to court and effectively said we don't care what we said or agreed to, under federal law you can't shut us down.
The plant has had repeated leaks of radioactive tritium. Entergy repeatedly lied about where the leaks were coming from. They fired the plant manager, or rather they promoted him to another position within the company for lying about the leaks.
These are the people running nuke plants in the US.
The US now has so much available natural gas that the price has collapsed and wells are being capped. Continuing to run a forty years old plus plant with numerous problems is insane.
People don't know shit about US nuclear reactors. Vermont Yankee went online in 1972 and was built using 1960's technology. It has no containment dome. In 2006 the owners, Entergy, upped the reactors output from 500MW to 630MW. The reactor has now been running for 7 years at 120 percent of designed output.
When Entergy purchased Vermont Yankee in 2002 they agreed to close the plant if the state of Vermont denied a Certificate of Public Good. They did this in order to get approval, which they needed, from Vermont to buy the plant. When they didn't get the Certificate they went to court and effectively said we don't care what we said or agreed to, under federal law you can't shut us down.
The plant has had repeated leaks of radioactive tritium. Entergy repeatedly lied about where the leaks were coming from. They fired the plant manager, or rather they promoted him to another position within the company for lying about the leaks.
These are the people running nuke plants in the US.
The US now has so much available natural gas that the price has collapsed and wells are being capped. Continuing to run a forty years old plus plant with numerous problems is insane.
You nuclear thumpers are the worst.
Amazing apologists. When there is a problem "oh they didn't do it right!". Next time will be better, the new ones will be better! Nothing can happen!
The fact is that nuclear is very much dangerous. You always point out that everyone else is stupid. Well maybe YOU are idiots for not seeing the dangers and burying your heads in the sand. You're like the little kids who put their fingers in their ears and screams "no nooo nooo it's better it's better it's better!!"
There is a massive track record of problems with nuclear energy. Just look at any problems we have with regular companies like haliburton lately. That crap happens all the time. Cost cutting, reckless with safety, cover ups, government incompetence, etc. You think that crap ends with Nuclear?? No, it doesn't. Oh make more rules, watch it more! It doesn't help. And when nuclear goes bad it goes real bad. Way worse than anything else. You're so foolish to think you can control all the factors when it can't even be done now on less dangerous methods.
Why is the developed world turning .../mar/09/fukushima-reactors-nuclear-free-japan
We all know Germany has already started phasing out its reactors in the wake of earthquake/tsunami in Japan. Now Japan is planning to do the same.
On the other hand, China and India are building reactors like crazy.
I just don't understand the logic behind this at all. Shall we all move back into caves and open spaces as earthquakes cause our buildings to collapse? No, we learn from our mistakes and make sure we limit our causalities to a minimum, and how many people died after being exposed to the radiation.. compared to the lives lost during that natural catastrophe?
what does oil have to do with making electricity? I dont power my home by a gas generator it comes from a coal power plant 5 miles from me.
Now, Sister Megan Rice, 82, a Roman Catholic nun of the Society of the Holy Child Jesus, and two male accomplices have carried out what nuclear experts call the biggest security breach in the history of the nation’s atomic complex, making their way to the inner sanctum of the site where the United States keeps crucial nuclear bomb parts and fuel.
“Deadly force is authorized,” signs there read. “Halt!” Images of skulls emphasize the lethal danger.
With flashlights and bolt cutters, the three pacifists defied barbed wire as well as armed guards, video cameras and motion sensors at the Oak Ridge nuclear reservation in Tennessee early on July 28, a Saturday. They splashed blood on the Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility — a new windowless, half-billion-dollar plant encircled by enormous guard towers — and hung banners outside its walls.
“Swords into plowshares,” read one, quoting the Book of Isaiah. “Spears into pruning hooks.” The plant holds the nation’s main supply of highly enriched uranium, enough for thousands of nuclear weapons.
The actions of Sister Rice, a New York native who grew up on a prosperous block in Morningside Heights, and her companions, ages 57 and 63, are a huge embarrassment for President Obama. Since 2010, he has led a campaign to eliminate or lock down nuclear materials as a way to fight atomic terrorism. Now, the three — two of whom, including Sister Rice, are free and are awaiting trial in October — have made nuclear theft seem only a little more challenging than a romp in the Tennessee woods.
The Nun Who Broke Into the Nuclear Sanctum
When the security of your nation's nuclear weapons manufacturing facilities can be compromised by an 82 year old nun armed with bolt cutters, I'm not going to be too trusting of the security of civilian nuclear reactors.
In theory, I understand that all of the nuclear facilities are secure. In practice though, they have been compromised by an 82 year old nun.
Doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. Doesn't make me want more civilian or military nuclear facilities.
You are welcome to feel differently.
Uno
When the security of your nation's nuclear weapons manufacturing facilities can be compromised by an 82 year old nun armed with bolt cutters, I'm not going to be too trusting of the security of civilian nuclear reactors.
In theory, I understand that all of the nuclear facilities are secure. In practice though, they have been compromised by an 82 year old nun.
Doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. Doesn't make me want more civilian or military nuclear facilities.
Climbing over/cutting open a fence and vandalizing a wall isn't really a threat to nuclear power plants.
Three Questions.On the anniversary of the worst security breach in the plant’s history, there was yet another security incident at the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant in Oak Ridge.
A federal spokesman confirmed that two Y-12 security police officers were wounded early Sunday morning by the accidental discharge of a firearm.
nuclear energy is not green energy thats why.