Why is this child being punished ??? His arms were crushed!!!!!!!!!!

[eits]

i stuck with "idiot" and "moron" for two reasons:

1, i didn't want to sound too pretentious
2, if i used other words, said idiots and morons might not have understood without opening their browser to dictionary.com

 

[eits]

by the way, if anyone takes serious offense towards being called out on being an idiot or a moron, sorry. i take offense towards such small-minded ignorance. it's not even the fact that it was ignorance run amok.... it's also the fact that aimster translated (did what the original thread post asked) and explained that it was just a stunt and people decided it was a great idea to talk about the iranian people as if they're horrible people and that iran's such a horrible country. that's a HUGE leap. it's not only a leap because the claims are so baseless and ethnocentric, but because the original question was a translation... THAT'S ALL.

we all know that the iranian government is filled with a bunch of islamist republicans. however, something people keep missing is that they don't express the views of the people... and, unfortunately, people like aidenjm and branzor can't seem to understand that fact, no matter how many times people have to keep telling them.

you might as well find a picture series of a black magician from tulsa separating a woman in half and ask why an african would kill someone for no reason.... and whenever a magician comes in the thread and explains that it's all a magic trick and even explains the trick, people go off about how african countries are corrupt and blame the magician who came on the thread of being a corrupt african and, therefore, lying about the magician from tulsa actually performing magic in the picture series.

aidenjm and branzor, leave your burning crosses and bigotry at the door. thanks.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: eits
by the way, if anyone takes serious offense towards being called out on being an idiot or a moron, sorry. i take offense towards such small-minded ignorance. it's not even the fact that it was ignorance run amok.... it's also the fact that aimster translated (did what the original thread post asked) and explained that it was just a stunt and people decided it was a great idea to talk about the iranian people as if they're horrible people and that iran's such a horrible country. that's a HUGE leap. it's not only a leap because the claims are so baseless and ethnocentric, but because the original question was a translation... THAT'S ALL.

we all know that the iranian government is filled with a bunch of islamist republicans. however, something people keep missing is that they don't express the views of the people... and, unfortunately, people like aidenjm and branzor can't seem to understand that fact, no matter how many times people have to keep telling them.

you might as well find a picture series of a black magician from tulsa separating a woman in half and ask why an african would kill someone for no reason.... and whenever a magician comes in the thread and explains that it's all a magic trick and even explains the trick, people go off about how african countries are corrupt and blame the magician who came on the thread of being a corrupt african and, therefore, lying about the magician from tulsa actually performing magic in the picture series.

aidenjm and branzor, leave your burning crosses and bigotry at the door. thanks.

actually, what i found even more amusing was, braznor posts asking for an translation, aimster does so, and braznor more or less calls him a liar and says aimsters conclusions are all wrong.

why bother asking for a translation if you are just going to call the translator a liar?

 

[Huntress]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

why bother asking for a translation if you are just going to call the translator a liar?

Because it didn't bring the flaming results he was hoping for, he had a different agenda than was stated in his first post... IMO the OP was looking to make a thread where he was some moral eHero, and unfortunately all he did was bring out the other eMorons. The insults to the obviously educated and intelligent Iranians responding in this thread are unacceptable. One would like to think you could have an exchange of thoughts and ideas on various cultures, but this is not the forum to do so.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Huntress

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

why bother asking for a translation if you are just going to call the translator a liar?

Because it didn't bring the flaming results he was hoping for, he had a different agenda than was stated in his first post... IMO the OP was looking to make a thread where he was some moral eHero, and unfortunately all he did was bring out the other eMorons. The insults to the obviously educated and intelligent Iranians responding in this thread are unacceptable. One would like to think you could have an exchange of thoughts and ideas on various cultures, but this is not the forum to do so.

exactly, i posted a couple of thoughts in this thread early on trying to defend aimster but it was obvious everything was falling on deaf ears. it really is sad to see.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: sundevb
Explanation: it's Iran.

oh shut the hell up....
if you're as ignorant as this piece of sh!t (i.e. sundevb), please don't post...

it's a street performance... david blane kinds of crap. it's not punishment.

No, he's right, actually. It's Iran.

Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Aimster
repost

explanation

It's not a crime/punishment. It's a street performance. The kid is not hurt. This is what people do when they need food to eat. Happens all over the world.

By the way these photos are all over Iranian webistes for the purpose of making the world hate Iran so the U.S can invade and takeover. Propaganda.

/end thread

Um, no, it's not the end of the thread.

Even assuming what we are seeing is "street performance" there can be no doubt that the child is not a happy, willing participate. That is clear in this "after" photos:

Text

Apparently the kids arm isn't broken. He doesn't look too happy, tho.

If this is 'street performace' then it is child exploitation of a particularly venal & disgusting kind.

One wonders what kind of a society must Iran be to tolerate this barbarity..

i'm getting my doctorate... i see no broken arm or any signs of a fracture, so how could you?

I said: "apparently the kid's arm ISN'T broken.."

It seems you are so riled up and angry that you have lost the ability to read, interpret a simple English sentence.

Is English your native language by the way? You do seem very emotionally affected by this topic. I wonder why.

Originally posted by: eits
if you don't know how to read farsi, keep quiet.

Do you read farsi?

Originally posted by: eits
it's a frigging street performance.

I must say, I am impressed with the confidence of your assertion here. Please provide the links that would prove without a doubt your statement.

I feel I must draw attention, again, to your problems in English comprehension. If you will re-read my post (the one you are responding to) you will see I am in no way ruling out the possibility that the pics represent some kind of barbaric ritual for purposes of entertainment.

Originally posted by: eits
the idiot that started this thread asked if anyone could translate....

My definition of an "idiot" would be someone who throws around abuse and insults on a forum like this, and then expects to be taken seriously.

Originally posted by: eits
it was translated by more than one person who can read farsi. for some reason, you people keep wanting to make it more than it really is.

And for some reason you continue to (deliberately?) miss the broader point. It DOESN'T MATTER whether this child is being punished or whether he is being forced into some kind of barbaric street performance. Either way, you have a situation of child exploitation and child cruelty. The obvious question is: what became of that individual child? Is he safe and well? Is he still being forced to participate in such a barbaric ritual? The broader question is: what kind of a society and culture must exist in Iran, to tolerate such barbarity?

Originally posted by: eits
it's just some poor people from tehran putting on a street performance. that's all it is. ffs, people...

How odd, that you would dismiss this kind of child cruelty - as if it is somehow of no moral consequence. What odd, alien values you appear to possess.

 

[Toonces]

I think it is difficult to perscribe an entire state/nation with a particular set of ideals based on the actions of a few.

are there not extreme examples of barbarity within any religion, culture, or state?

even if this was punishment for stealing it cannot be used to condemn an entire culture as "tolerating barbarity" as much as US culture tolerates the barbarity of a woman throwing her children into the ocean.

extreme examples do not represent an accurate portrayal of millions of people with thousands of years of history.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: UNESC0
I think it is difficult to perscribe an entire state/nation with a particular set of ideals based on the actions of a few.

are there not extreme examples of barbarity within any religion, culture, or state?

even if this was punishment for stealing it cannot be used to condemn an entire culture as "tolerating barbarity" as much as US culture tolerates the barbarity of a woman throwing her children into the ocean.

extreme examples do not represent an accurate portrayal of millions of people with thousands of years of history.

Excellent post.

All I can say is... it is the basis of the arguments of the small-minded, the bigoted, and the TV news media to equate the specific with the general. Any intelligent person should know that it is obvious logic that any generality can be disproven with one single exception (and never the other way around, that one exception makes a generality).

 

[otispunkmeyer]

what the fook........im not even gonna say what i think about that part of the world. it will get me banned.

 

[fishface313]

maybe the little kid didn't want to be a terrorist, so they punished him...

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
REPOST


And its fake, unless you think a towel and a child's arm can hold up a car that far off the ground.

so like the the weight of the car is pretty much on all the other wheels? so the wheel going over his arm has hardly any load on it.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: sundevb
Explanation: it's Iran.

oh shut the hell up....
if you're as ignorant as this piece of sh!t (i.e. sundevb), please don't post...

it's a street performance... david blane kinds of crap. it's not punishment.

No, he's right, actually. It's Iran.

Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings

You care too much about Iran and the Iranian government

Pick one.

A) You are an Israeli/Jew - You fail to realize 20% of the Jews in the U.S are actually Iranian. Ever been to California? A large portion of Israel is actually Iranian.

B) An Arab who hates Persians. Persians > Arabs in every way. That's all there is to it.

C) Your Iranian girlfriend broke up with you. Don't cry it's just your face.

Nobody here is defending the Iranian government, not even the Iranians on this board.

You are just a troll.

The Iranian government does not represent the Iranian people. That is common sense. The leaders are not elected to power.

You dont even know what you are argueing. I don't see anyone defending the Iranian regime. You are just an idiot. Go to school and get an education. Common sense is lacking with you.

 

[User1001]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And since when are Iranians not Arabs? To my understanding they have always been. If that's not the case, help me understand, please. Seems, however, that my educators taught me that back in school.

Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persian and speak Farsi (the language is not why they are not Arab). It's like calling a Japanese person Chinese. They are totally different people with two different cultures.

People from Turkey are not Arab either as well as the people from Afghanistan. They are each different things.

Arab nations are pretty much all of the M.E and most of Northern Africa.

Thank you for clearing that up. Seriously, they ought to make every gradeschool and highschool learn this. Its really horrible how much our education system screws it up.

 

It's the middle east, I expect nothing better.
Very sad.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Wow, Aimster is 100% correct in stating some of you are coming off as close-minded fools. As Bill Hicks would say: "Squeegee your third expletive eye"

Thank you for the informative posts, and good luck trying to explain things to Americans that get their geography/history lessons from war and/or the media. It is kind of funny to read the posts that are getting the exact reaction they (media) want. Must be the same people that are herded by the media to feel a certain way about things in the United States, when, as you stated, despicable acts like this happen here just as often.
:thumbsdown: to sheeple...

would you have expected anything else, though

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

have you ever been to iran? no... you haven't. if you have, you'd know that it's not a dreadful place at all. it's a place where 85% of the population has a 180 degree mindest that of the government which rules them. it's full of extremely kind and friendly people who will go out of their way to make you comfortable and happy.

unless you've ever been to iran, don't talk about it like you have... especially if you're gonna blast it with the same kind of counter-productive b.s. you just did.

LOL - the 'don't criticize it if you haven't been there' argument! HAHAHAHAHA!

I hope you follow your own logic - but you probably don't.

Iran is a hell hole. You don't even have to visit it to realize it's a horrible country.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Wow, Aimster is 100% correct in stating some of you are coming off as close-minded fools. As Bill Hicks would say: "Squeegee your third expletive eye"

Thank you for the informative posts, and good luck trying to explain things to Americans that get their geography/history lessons from war and/or the media. It is kind of funny to read the posts that are getting the exact reaction they (media) want. Must be the same people that are herded by the media to feel a certain way about things in the United States, when, as you stated, despicable acts like this happen here just as often.
:thumbsdown: to sheeple...

would you have expected anything else, though

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

have you ever been to iran? no... you haven't. if you have, you'd know that it's not a dreadful place at all. it's a place where 85% of the population has a 180 degree mindest that of the government which rules them. it's full of extremely kind and friendly people who will go out of their way to make you comfortable and happy.

unless you've ever been to iran, don't talk about it like you have... especially if you're gonna blast it with the same kind of counter-productive b.s. you just did.

LOL - the 'don't criticize it if you haven't been there' argument! HAHAHAHAHA!

I hope you follow your own logic - but you probably don't.

Iran is a hell hole. You don't even have to visit it to realize it's a horrible country.

How is Iran a hell hole?

You don't know squat about Iran.

Iranians in the U.S who are millionares go to Iran every summer and they continue to go. They live a luxurious life in the states and yet they continue to visit this "hell hole". Makes a lot of sense to me...

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: sundevb
Explanation: it's Iran.

oh shut the hell up....
if you're as ignorant as this piece of sh!t (i.e. sundevb), please don't post...

it's a street performance... david blane kinds of crap. it's not punishment.

No, he's right, actually. It's Iran.

Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings

You care too much about Iran and the Iranian government

Pick one.

A) You are an Israeli/Jew - You fail to realize 20% of the Jews in the U.S are actually Iranian. Ever been to California? A large portion of Israel is actually Iranian.

and yes, sites like http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S6 just show what is going on in places like iran. Goebbels would be overjoyed at a sight like that. so stop with the moral equivalence people.
B) An Arab who hates Persians. Persians > Arabs in every way. That's all there is to it.

C) Your Iranian girlfriend broke up with you. Don't cry it's just your face.

Nobody here is defending the Iranian government, not even the Iranians on this board.

You are just a troll.

The Iranian government does not represent the Iranian people. That is common sense. The leaders are not elected to power.

You dont even know what you are argueing. I don't see anyone defending the Iranian regime. You are just an idiot. Go to school and get an education. Common sense is lacking with you.

wow just wow, you wouldn't know a valid arguement if it ran you over. you ARE and have been in effect defending the regiem and everything it stands for, not just "its people".

and yea that site http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S6 just shows whats really going on in iran and the rest of the middle east. how they indoctrinate their children with hate from day one. Goebbels would be proud.

and millionaires live luxurious lives anywhere. even in saudi arabia. a "hell hole" if there was ever one. its never hell for everyone, its gotta be nice enough for some to keep the system around. its the way it always works.

 

How is Iran a hell hole?

You don't know squat about Iran.

Iranians in the U.S who are millionares go to Iran every summer and they continue to go. They live a luxurious life in the states and yet they continue to visit this "hell hole". Makes a lot of sense to me...

I never really hear of Iran as a vacation spot. Usually it's Dubai in the UAE or areas of Qutar. One of my friends is from UAE, he never visits Iran.

No offense, but I'd venture to guess you don't actually know much about Iran either.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Persians > Arabs in every way. That's all there is to it.

This kind of strident, blatant racism has no place on ATOT, in my opinion. :disgust:

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: SampSon

How is Iran a hell hole?

You don't know squat about Iran.

Iranians in the U.S who are millionares go to Iran every summer and they continue to go. They live a luxurious life in the states and yet they continue to visit this "hell hole". Makes a lot of sense to me...

I never really hear of Iran as a vacation spot. Usually it's Dubai in the UAE or areas of Qutar. One of my friends is from UAE, he never visits Iran.

No offense, but I'd venture to guess you don't actually know much about Iran either.

Your friend from the UAE might be Iranian since 30% of UAE is Iranian.
Dubai is far more beautiful than Iran and almost any major U.S city. Why? It's a new city with new buildings and they have vast amounts of oil revenue to spend.

Dubai is probably the most beautiful city in the world.
Qatar is another small country with a small population and large oil revenue. Small populations + large oil revenue = spend like hell on new things.

Iran is probably not a place people want to go because of the current regime.
I am Iranian and I am not going to Iran because of the regime.

However that doesn't mean Iran is a hell hole.
Http://irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=32

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Aimster
Persians > Arabs in every way. That's all there is to it.

This kind of strident, blatant racism has no place on ATOT, in my opinion. :disgust:

You are disgusted? You hate Iranians and Islam
yet you say I should be banned for saying Persians > Arab

The Iranian regime you hate so much loves Arabs far more than Arabs love their own.

So make up your mind as to who you support or dont support.

 

Your friend from the UAE might be Iranian since 30% of UAE is Iranian.
Dubai is far more beautiful than Iran and almost any major U.S city. Why? It's a new city with new buildings and they have vast amounts of oil revenue to spend.

Dubai is probably the most beautiful city in the world.
Qatar is another small country with a small population and large oil revenue. Small populations + large oil revenue = spend like hell on new things.

Iran is probably not a place people want to go because of the current regime.
I am Iranian and I am not going to Iran because of the regime.

However that doesn't mean Iran is a hell hole.
Http://irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=32 - Iran Pictures

Naw, he is born and mostly raised UAE. Though he does have family that is Iranian.
Dubai is definitely one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Though that entire region wouldn't be rich if it wasn't for oil.

I never said Iran was a hell hole, though I'm not agreeing with the poster you're debating with. I believe that him calling it a hell hole has to do a lot with the regime policies as well as the theological influences on culture.
Cuba is a beautiful place, but it could easily be called a sh!thole for the same reasons.

I am Italian, doesn't mean I'm an expert on it.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: sundevb
Explanation: it's Iran.

oh shut the hell up....
if you're as ignorant as this piece of sh!t (i.e. sundevb), please don't post...

it's a street performance... david blane kinds of crap. it's not punishment.

No, he's right, actually. It's Iran.

Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings

You care too much about Iran and the Iranian government

Pick one.

A) You are an Israeli/Jew - You fail to realize 20% of the Jews in the U.S are actually Iranian. Ever been to California? A large portion of Israel is actually Iranian.

B) An Arab who hates Persians. Persians > Arabs in every way. That's all there is to it.

C) Your Iranian girlfriend broke up with you. Don't cry it's just your face.

Nobody here is defending the Iranian government, not even the Iranians on this board.

You are just a troll.

The Iranian government does not represent the Iranian people. That is common sense. The leaders are not elected to power.

You dont even know what you are argueing. I don't see anyone defending the Iranian regime. You are just an idiot. Go to school and get an education. Common sense is lacking with you.

:thumbsup:

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

i dont think anyone here could honestly condone punishment such as those. are some of the actions of their government extreme? yes... the people there are quite repressed. i wouldnt say we have a perfect, altruistic regime in the states either. (no, i am not comparing the 2 .. wouldnt want a fire here)....

anyways, point is, to say that iran is a dreadful place populated by barbaric people is an ignorant generalization. things like these do nothing but add to the prejudice and bigotry in real, darn-tootin amerikuns

To the guy who posted the link to prove a point to me:

She was accused of abusing a child.

Oh really? Who accused her of that? Please provide a link.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why are you posting executions where the person who is being hung is accused of being a child abuser? I dont care how old they are.

What evidence do you have that girl abused another child? Frankly, I have never heard of this allegation of child abuse before. It wasn't mentioned in any of the dozens of articles I have read on the execution of that girl. What is known is that she was mentally incompetent - mentally ill - and the time of execution. It is also known that she was 16 years old.

I suspect you are lying. I think you have made up this allegation of child abuse, simply because you think that is a quick, easy way to sully the repuation of someone who is now DEAD - and therefore doesn't have a chance to defend herself. If this is true - if you are DELIBERATELY LYING about this girl, accusing her of being a child molester because you believe that no-one will have any sympathy for her if they think she is a child molester (i.e., because you think this will be a quick, efficient method of destroying her reputation and eliminating any chance people in the West might have synpathy for her) - then you are an even more despicable piece of trash than I already suspected.

I can only hope the above is not the case, and that your slanderous comments about this brave young girl - executed under the Sharia law you so dearly love - represent an "honest" error on your part.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Look at all the child abuse threads on anandtech and look at everyone who says burn them. When other countries actually kill them it is all of a sudden wrong.

I am talking about a 16 year old girl. Who was murdered by the Iranian state under the Sharia Islamic law that you are defending. There is no good evidence this girl was a child abuser. I have read quite a bit on this girl - and my opinion is that she was an amazing, brave young girl - she was definitely a feminist of sorts, and her feminism is imo what got her killed. It seems you can't make an argument based on logic or the facts, so you resort to character assassination by casually, blithely accusing this girl of being a child abuser (when in fact there are not even suspicions, let alone evidence, that this is the case). Youe behaviour here is truly despicable.