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Originally posted by: MBrown
Why is this XP Pro so expensive?
Because people are stupid enough to pay it.
Sincerely,
William Gates
Originally posted by: Kriz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102153 <-- OEM version
you can only buy it if you're buying hardware with it. Any hardware will do, even the smallest of parts, like cables or something.
Um, S&D is when the supply falls short of the demand and then drives pricing up. This certainly not the case. I think its more like consumer ignorance on alternatives. It isn't like you are going to find the OEM on the shelf at Best Buy.Originally posted by: djdrastic
Supply and Demand
Originally posted by: Sasha
Um, S&D is when the supply falls short of the demand and then drives pricing up. This certainly not the case. I think its more like consumer ignorance on alternatives. It isn't like you are going to find the OEM on the shelf at Best Buy.Originally posted by: djdrastic
Supply and Demand
Also, some people have enough personal disposable income for it not to matter.
Originally posted by: Sasha
Um, S&D is when the supply falls short of the demand and then drives pricing up. This certainly not the case. I think its more like consumer ignorance on alternatives. It isn't like you are going to find the OEM on the shelf at Best Buy.Originally posted by: djdrastic
Supply and Demand
Also, some people have enough personal disposable income for it not to matter.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Sasha
Um, S&D is when the supply falls short of the demand and then drives pricing up. This certainly not the case. I think its more like consumer ignorance on alternatives. It isn't like you are going to find the OEM on the shelf at Best Buy.Originally posted by: djdrastic
Supply and Demand
Also, some people have enough personal disposable income for it not to matter.
How does ignorance come into play? Retail can be moved from box to box legally, OEM can't. $220 is less than OEM price x2 (or 3, or 4), so if you plan on using new mobos a lot (like a good portion of the users here) and you want to remain legal, retail is a much better buy.
The ignorant thing (if you want to remain 100% legal and change hardware a lot) would be to buy OEM.
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Sasha
Um, S&D is when the supply falls short of the demand and then drives pricing up. This certainly not the case. I think its more like consumer ignorance on alternatives. It isn't like you are going to find the OEM on the shelf at Best Buy.Originally posted by: djdrastic
Supply and Demand
Also, some people have enough personal disposable income for it not to matter.
How does ignorance come into play? Retail can be moved from box to box legally, OEM can't. $220 is less than OEM price x2 (or 3, or 4), so if you plan on using new mobos a lot (like a good portion of the users here) and you want to remain legal, retail is a much better buy.
The ignorant thing (if you want to remain 100% legal and change hardware a lot) would be to buy OEM.
Microsoft makes their own reseller rules, which include OEM channel software. They also seek to enforce those rules. But, if you thought about it, it is ignorance since Microsoft, during your registration of the OEM license, isn't going to know if you bought a whole computer or just and IDE cable--because they don't ask for proof.
If I were Apple, I would pay retailers money for advertisement that clearly shows the price difference between the two. Unfortunately, I think the retail upgrade revenues where people buy the OS off the shelf is tiny compared to getting a whole new computer. But, I still find it difficult to swallow from microsoft that they value their workstation client at $300 retail when I bet Tiger is just as good for substantially less.
It reminds me of the music industry's point that the pricing on CDs isn't high. Yeah, right.
Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
So what happens when my motherboard crashes and I have to replace it?
You already have to do that.Originally posted by: eLiu
Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
So what happens when my motherboard crashes and I have to replace it?
Sounds like you'll have to phone up MS and rqeuest a new key? Someone tell me I'm wrong
Originally posted by: powerMarkymark
Bill Gates is very high maintenance.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You already have to do that.Originally posted by: eLiu
Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
So what happens when my motherboard crashes and I have to replace it?
Sounds like you'll have to phone up MS and rqeuest a new key? Someone tell me I'm wrong
They will be able to compare the mobo to see if it is indeed a replacement (similar make/model) or something new.
Doesn't mean they will deny you, but they could legally (per OEM license) and technically (per WGA).
That is not legal according to the OEM license. Don't like it? Why did you agree to the license? Still don't like it? Buy Retail.Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You already have to do that.Originally posted by: eLiu
Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
So what happens when my motherboard crashes and I have to replace it?
Sounds like you'll have to phone up MS and rqeuest a new key? Someone tell me I'm wrong
They will be able to compare the mobo to see if it is indeed a replacement (similar make/model) or something new.
Doesn't mean they will deny you, but they could legally (per OEM license) and technically (per WGA).
that doesnt even sound right. you have to buy something similar if your mobo breaks?
if my mobo breaks of course im going to try to get something new / better. not the same old technology.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
That is not legal according to the OEM license. Don't like it? Why did you agree to the license? Still don't like it? Buy Retail.Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
You already have to do that.Originally posted by: eLiu
Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
So what happens when my motherboard crashes and I have to replace it?
Sounds like you'll have to phone up MS and rqeuest a new key? Someone tell me I'm wrong
They will be able to compare the mobo to see if it is indeed a replacement (similar make/model) or something new.
Doesn't mean they will deny you, but they could legally (per OEM license) and technically (per WGA).
that doesnt even sound right. you have to buy something similar if your mobo breaks?
if my mobo breaks of course im going to try to get something new / better. not the same old technology.
This has been the legal limits to the XP OEM license since day one. WGA gives them the ability to enforce it.
If you build your own system, or buy 3rd party (Dell, HP, whatever), OEM licensing does not allow you to change licenses from the PC you first installed it on.
It's not expensive for what you are getting, trust us. It owns Linux and other Operating Systems.