Why isn't Europe as crazy about guns as US?

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Lifer
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old europe is strangling them selves with political correctness (soft tyranny) and alarmist eco-KOOKS. Think of europe as David Carradine in the closet. By the time you find him he'll be dead.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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old europe is strangling them selves with political correctness (soft tyranny) and alarmist eco-KOOKS. Think of europe as David Carradine in the closet. By the time you find him he'll be dead.

Awww, you and your eco-KOOKS!

It's quite cute really. *ruffles hair*
 

mikeford

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Jan 27, 2001
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What should be fun is what happens when all of the disarmed Euro econuts realize global warming was a scam and another ice age is a sure event, and every place that is going to be warm is full of armed citizens.
 

_Rick_

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What should be fun is what happens when all of the disarmed Euro econuts realize global warming was a scam and another ice age is a sure event, and every place that is going to be warm is full of armed citizens.

The Native Americans were armed too. Did them a great lot of good.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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The Native Americans were armed too. Did them a great lot of good.

what's your address? I'm going to send you a history book.

And a slap on the back of your head.



In the rare battles where the Indians had weapons equal to ours, they routed us.
 

Ruptga

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This thread really is like a fine spirit; keep the lols coming, all you angry deluded partisans.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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what's your address? I'm going to send you a history book.

And a slap on the back of your head.



In the rare battles where the Indians had weapons equal to ours, they routed us.

Based on your incorrect recollections and lack of important knowledge, I'd hold on to that history book.

I am betting the last one you read was in High School though.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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What should be fun is what happens when all of the disarmed Euro econuts realize global warming was a scam and another ice age is a sure event, and every place that is going to be warm is full of armed citizens.

I give you 6 out of 10 for this post.

You tie plenty of troll subjects together but the overall post is too silly to make anyone angry.

Although I am going to use your point that one of the reasons to be armed is that when the next ice age comes you'll be able to fight of any marauding Europeans that come to steal your place in the sun.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Not sure WTF you are talking about or where you are trying to go.

Put any man in a situation where he is poor, hungry and without options and that man will adapt both good and bad.

Pretty much. When the only people in the neighborhood with money and any type of influence are bad people, it is easy for a young person to think that this is the way to go. Sell drugs and get in tight with the gangs who have money and power. Young people are very impressionable and if you sell the life as fun and the easy way to get whatever you want without much schooling and hard work and nobody will mess with you, some will no doubt gravitate that direction.
 

Ruptga

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does it bother you when your trolling fails?

Sometimes, but I was being 100% serious. People like him are so hilariously out of touch with reality it's just, well, you know.

Thanks for bumping the thread though.
 

mafia

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The history of Switzerland in WWII has very little to do with weapons or military tactics, and very much to do with banks.

If I was Hitler I would love to own and conquer all their banks.
 

Tango

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If I was Hitler I would love to own and conquer all their banks.

No, you wouldn't. Those were the banks where all the people that put you and kept you in charge kept their money.

They preferred it be there regardless of the end result of the war.
 

mizzou

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Europeans do like guns, they just can't get them as easily. Blame centuries of non-resistance to totalitarian/empire style government?

Don't arm the peasants!
 

BladeVenom

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The British used to be able to own guns. Sometimes with more freedom than the US. Only relatively recently have they become an Orwellian police state.
 

jpeyton

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The British used to be able to own guns. Sometimes with more freedom than the US. Only relatively recently have they become an Orwellian police state.
About the same time they put CCTV cameras in every nook and cranny.
 

jpeyton

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You know that you can own shotguns and rifles in the UK don't you?
Well, that's the short version. The long version is (from Wiki):

"Single-barrelled, double-barrelled shotguns, or those with a lever-action or, pump-action, or semi-automatic and fixed magazine capacity of no more than three (2 in the magazine and one in the chamber) cartridges are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate. Shotguns with a detachable magazine or larger fixed magazine are permitted on a Section 1 Firearms Certificate. Certain types of shotgun ammunition, such as rifled slugs and larger shot sizes can only be bought following the grant of an FAC (firearms certificate). There is no limit on the amount of guns or ammunition that a SGC (shotgun certificate) holder can acquire or possess at one time, although each shotgun is recorded on the certificate."

A Section 1 Firearms Certificate is basically a permission slip, which has to be approved by the police ("may issue", which means it's up to their discretion), of the exact type/caliber/number of a firearm you intend to purchase along with a specific usage for that firearm ("self-defense" or "because guns are cool" aren't valid reasons). Slugs and larger shot size ammunition require another certificate, in which the type and amount of ammunition you purchase has to be logged. Storage requirements for firearms and ammunition are also very specific and regulated.

For rifles:

"British law defines a "rifle" as a rifled firearm with a barrel longer than 30 cm, and a total length longer than 60 cm that does not fall under the classification of long-barrelled revolver or pistol. Single-shot, bolt-action, Martini-action, lever-action (also called under-lever action) and revolver rifles and carbines are permitted, with certificate, in any calibre. Self-loading (also known as semi-automatic) or pump-action rifles are only permitted in .22 rimfire calibre."

No semi-automatic rifles are allowed in calibers larger than .22 rimfire.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
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And the UK also sends people to jail for defending themselves.

That would completely depend on how you're defending yourself and from what.

Not exactly sure what you're trying to prove here. You don't like British gun law? That's fine, you don't live here.
 

alkemyst

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That would completely depend on how you're defending yourself and from what.

Not exactly sure what you're trying to prove here. You don't like British gun law? That's fine, you don't live here.

No shit, us 'mericans got the fuck out of that 'Detroit' long ago. We sometimes go back to visit, but fuck your teeth get jacked up just by proxy.

Europe gave up on firearms since they don't know how to defend themselves properly anyway.

That's why us 'mericans have to tow the line for them. We still have love for our roots, even if those just are weeds.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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No shit, us 'mericans got the fuck out of that 'Detroit' long ago. We sometimes go back to visit, but fuck your teeth get jacked up just by proxy.

Europe gave up on firearms since they don't know how to defend themselves properly anyway.

That's why us 'mericans have to tow the line for them. We still have love for our roots, even if those just are weeds.

You know it's really hard to understand what the hell you're going on about when you've been drinking don't you?
 
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