Why maybe going vegan should be a reality for many people.

[William Gaatjes]

If lab grown meat becomes cheap enough, that would be the perfect solution. Less impact on the environment and the meat doesn't come with a brain attached to it.

Yeah, Top quality steak every day.
We will have to grow a muscle with nerves and veins.
But those muscle fibers only will taste good when they actually have twitched.

I expect in the future to see lots of huge muscles connected with electrodes to make it twitch. Perhaps, the strength of the muscle can be used for other processes in the factory. When those muscles contract, some other process can be powered with it. When grown enough, the muscles are harvested, sliced into pieces and sold for consumption. Ideal .

 

[yh125d]

I don't even eat plant life. Just because you can't hear leeks scream when you chew them, doesn't mean they aren't. They feel that pain every bit as much as if someone were chewing your midsection. Disgusting.


I subsist purely on good vibes

 

[DrPizza]

Yeah, Top quality steak every day.
We will have to grow a muscle with nerves and veins.
But those muscle fibers only will taste good when they actually have twitched.

I expect in the future to see lots of huge muscles connected with electrodes to make it twitch. Perhaps, the strength of the muscle can be used for other processes in the factory. When those muscles contract, some other process can be powered with it. When grown enough, the muscles are harvested, sliced into pieces and sold for consumption. Ideal .

Actually, muscles like the tenderloin don't twitch much - that's why they're more tender.

 

[momeNt]

I don't even eat plant life. Just because you can't hear leeks scream when you chew them, doesn't mean they aren't. They feel that pain every bit as much as if someone were chewing your midsection. Disgusting.


I subsist purely on good vibes

My guess is that you are being sarcastic or facetious, but some Hindus believe, and actually do practice, subsistence on solely "prana". Most of our prana comes from the sun, but is found everywhere around us, including in others "good vibes".

In the US or western culture it is referred to as Breatharianism.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Actually, muscles like the tenderloin don't twitch much - that's why they're more tender.

Aha.
Well, we need such input to get the best factory produced meat. :thumbsup:
It would be a shame to only produce cheap hamburger quality meat.

 

[Genx87]

The OP has changed me with those pictures. I am giving up cannibalism. Going back to eating animal meat.

 

[-slash-]

So, I'm going to interject here and hopefully bring us all back to reality a little bit. I'm not denying that we have some opportunities on how we grow our food, but we all have to realize that pretty much all life on this planet derives its food in some horrifying sense. I mean, have you ever seen a preying mantis rip the head off a bug and eat it like it didn't exist? Ever seen a wildebeest cross a river and literally be torn in half by a crocodile? Or watch bambi get caught by the hands of a baboon and have its legs ripped off and eaten alive? Heck, my parents were just telling me they lost one of their chickens. It was dragged out of its yard pen, had its head ripped off, and all its innards were torn out and eaten. The rest was sprawled out across the grass like a Quake 3 gib fest. Life isn't exactly pretty about its food, guys.

So while you can make comparisons of butcher houses to Auschwitz you want, there is a sense of stewardship that goes into the way we manage our food. That doesn't mean we're without areas of opportunity. We, as humans, need to get away from these massive single-crop superfarms and move to a smaller, more sustainable, but far more productive multi-crop farmsteads. We should be focusing on our soil rather than feeding the crops directly. As for meat production, we really need to get away from steroid infused meats and stop overfishing our oceans. There's a lot that we waste, and there's a lot we can do better.

But everyone becoming a vegan because the poor animals have feelings is not the solution.

Fucking genius.:thumbsup: To help the environment you dont have to be a sprout eating hippy and not every carnivore wants to kill and pillage every species on the planet to have a steak. Very well put.

 

[ImpulsE69]

So, I'm going to interject here and hopefully bring us all back to reality a little bit. I'm not denying that we have some opportunities on how we grow our food, but we all have to realize that pretty much all life on this planet derives its food in some horrifying sense. I mean, have you ever seen a preying mantis rip the head off a bug and eat it like it didn't exist? Ever seen a wildebeest cross a river and literally be torn in half by a crocodile? Or watch bambi get caught by the hands of a baboon and have its legs ripped off and eaten alive? Heck, my parents were just telling me they lost one of their chickens. It was dragged out of its yard pen, had its head ripped off, and all its innards were torn out and eaten. The rest was sprawled out across the grass like a Quake 3 gib fest. Life isn't exactly pretty about its food, guys.

So while you can make comparisons of butcher houses to Auschwitz you want, there is a sense of stewardship that goes into the way we manage our food. That doesn't mean we're without areas of opportunity. We, as humans, need to get away from these massive single-crop superfarms and move to a smaller, more sustainable, but far more productive multi-crop farmsteads. We should be focusing on our soil rather than feeding the crops directly. As for meat production, we really need to get away from steroid infused meats and stop overfishing our oceans. There's a lot that we waste, and there's a lot we can do better.

But everyone becoming a vegan because the poor animals have feelings is not the solution.

Holy shit. Someone with brains.

 

[lord_emperor]

*High protein diets are not good for you, and will contribute to an early death.

Unless of course you're physically active, in which case those tasty amino acids are critical to your continuing existence.

 

[Tweak155]

OP, I hear about the positives to vegan and vegetarian diets but I am sure there are some negatives too.

Some negatives include, but are not limited to, being a vegan or vegetarian.

 

[zinfamous]

If I didn't include meat as a balance, my diet would simply be beer and cigarettes.

I need meat.

 

[KMFJD]

But a huge decrease in intake of things like steak and bacon. May not be worth it.

Switch from cows to kangaroos. My understanding is that their gut contains bacteria that convert methane into usable energy for the roo. Also keep an eye out for companies that make roo-proof fences.


<later>

Kangaroos are cute so you shouldn't eat them according to California

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...imports-despite-lobbying-efforts-by-australia

There's millions of these bastard kangaroos roaming around waiting for a car to race across the road against. The farmers shoot them because they become pests when they start to overpopulate, the meat is not bad at all, lean red meat

 

[ControlD]

Some negatives include, but are not limited to, being a vegan or vegetarian.

lmao. I'm going to have to work this into a conversation at some point.

 

[dainthomas]

Some negatives include, but are not limited to, being a vegan or vegetarian.

And related annoyance of acquaintances. Usually from going on and on about how great that mushroom burger or soy-chicken-product is.

 

[waggy]

If I didn't include meat as a balance, my diet would simply be beer and cigarettes.

I need meat.

I suggest some whisky on occasion. It helps balance it out.

 

[Imp]

Didn't Japan's average height increase more than a bit after 'Muricah's protein-rich diet became popular post-WWII due to the occupation?

 

[yh125d]

My guess is that you are being sarcastic or facetious, but some Hindus believe, and actually do practice, subsistence on solely "prana". Most of our prana comes from the sun, but is found everywhere around us, including in others "good vibes".

In the US or western culture it is referred to as Breatharianism.

Yet do they ask for permission from those trillions of photons before using them as their energy source? Those innocent little photons were on a lightspeed journey of magnificence through the universe until some Nepalese jerk decided he would capture it to make some vitamin D.

 

[Blintok]

A vegetarian opened Auschwitz. Just sayin. (Hitler was a vegetarian)

 

[Jeff7]

Kangaroos are cute so you shouldn't eat them according to California

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...imports-despite-lobbying-efforts-by-australia

There's millions of these bastard kangaroos roaming around waiting for a car to race across the road against. The farmers shoot them because they become pests when they start to overpopulate, the meat is not bad at all, lean red meat

We've made some ugly dog breeds pretty quickly. Time for ugly kangaroos I guess, and maybe a propaganda campaign.


:hmm:
Articles like that make me wonder if there'd be a way of legalizing lobbyist meat. Everyone wins.

 

[sdifox]

I eat vegeterian animals. Does that count?

 

[yh125d]

I eat vegeterian animals. Does that count?

If banging the same chick makes us eskimo brothers, it's safe to say eating vegetarians makes you a vegetarian

 

[Rakehellion]

Chickens that are free ranging - truly free ranging, whose eggs are collected by hand are available - it's just that people don't want to pay $3/dozen eggs, they'd rather pay 89 cents per dozen.

I haven't seen 89 cent eggs since 1992.

Has the OP considered that farming vegetables contributes to global warming? Those tractors plowing the fields aren't solar powered. Those trucks hauling produce aren't solar powered. Not to mention those fields could be forested, and never barren. Thus, constantly absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere.

Not to mention you necessarily have to destroy an animal's habitat to place hundreds of acres of crops.

Now, farming insects has the least environmental impact of any food, but vegans are too hypocritical to do that.

 

[Rakehellion]

Why do vegans not consider plants, insects, and bacteria to be living creatures?