Alkemyst, is that you?
Oh I 100% agree. And the best way to deal with someone who's so rude/unprofessional as to show up late to work everyday and is too delicate to handle the criticism for it is to FIRE THEM.
You're making things up now, as sure a sign as any of bad management.
You're making things up now, as sure a sign as any of bad management.
I blame it on a couple of reasons.
Let's talk about sacrificing. People always talk about how they want to be successful. How are you going to do that when you spend your leisure time playing video games. My parents owned two restaurants. They didn't have time to play video games. My dad was working 12-14 hour days. He'd wake up in the morning at 5am, travel to the restaurant, prep the food and clean the floors. After that he went down to the beach and sold ice cream until 6pm. I don't see too many Millennials making the sacrifice needed to succeed. Instead they would rather bitch and complain. My mother was reluctant to hire young people because of their work ethic. Most of her help came from Romania. They would put in 10 hours a day, and ask for more.
Oh, I think you meant "peace" and not "piece." I'm not usually a grammar Nazi, but if you're going to allege someone is ignorant, you might want to sanitize your attack first
So, could you just summarize how you would handle a habitually late employee? I'm not talking someone who is 5 or 10 minutes late either, but someone who strolls in 30 minutes+ late every day.
You're making things up now, as sure a sign as any of bad management.
Actually, piece is correct, as in "let them speak their part" as oppose to "let them speak their ideas". I'm not sure why somebody would speak their peace at an interview, unless it was for a job as an arbiter or negotiator?
Anyway, from my experience as an interviewer, some millennials want to start at the top instead of working their way up (talking about college hires, not 10+ years experience). Other millennials are fantastic, hard workers and I'm glad to have them on my product teams.
(Same can be said about boomers too)
Where has this scenario come from?
I'm just asking because I see you and BikeJunkie arguing back and forth. I think his position is clear but I'm not clear on your position. I'm assuming you guys are discussing someone who is late more than 10 minutes every day and more like 20/30 minutes. If my assumption about that is incorrect, I apologize.
Ventanni said:I've also witnessed quite a few talented and capable individuals wither away because of poor management. Yes, it goes both ways. As leaders, being passive-aggressive gets you nowhere. Asking questions like, "Why can't you just be here on time?" or "Why can't you just learn the product on your own like Danny does?" only demoralize individuals.
Actually, piece is correct, as in "let them speak their part" as oppose to "let them speak their ideas". I'm not sure why somebody would speak their peace at an interview, unless it was for a job as an arbiter or negotiator?
Anyway, from my experience as an interviewer, some millennials want to start at the top instead of working their way up (talking about college hires, not 10+ years experience). Other millennials are fantastic, hard workers and I'm glad to have them on my product teams.
(Same can be said about boomers too)
the most recent one we had at my job for a developer position was someone who said they were proficient in javascript. my coworker the guy to white board a small problem and the guy couldn't even get the syntax for a for loop correct. and not only could he not get it correct, when he was asked to explain some of the syntax and how the variable defined in the for loop was initialized, he couldn't do it.
needless to say, the interview was cut short. it only lasted 30 minutes instead of the planned 2 hours.
Anyway, from my experience as an interviewer, some millennials want to start at the top instead of working their way up (talking about college hires, not 10+ years experience). Other millennials are fantastic, hard workers and I'm glad to have them on my product teams.
(Same can be said about boomers too)
Having a job and no suit, I would probably not show up for an interview in a suit. I'd dress nicely but not wear a suit. And if they don't like it, it's not a good fit for me anyway.
An exception might be for a financial firm where looking good matters because it doesn't take a genius to do what these people are doing. But I am still not spending $400+ on a suit for what might be a job offer.
If questioned about it, my response would simply be that if I was extended and offer and my job duties require a suit here, I will buy a suit upon accepting the offer. I think it is non sensiscal to spend hundreds of dollars on something I don't need.
If followed up with "What about first impressions?" I would respond with "I think my answer should be my first impression, not my attire".
Having a job and no suit, I would probably not show up for an interview in a suit. I'd dress nicely but not wear a suit. And if they don't like it, it's not a good fit for me anyway.
An exception might be for a financial firm where looking good matters because it doesn't take a genius to do what these people are doing. But I am still not spending $400+ on a suit for what might be a job offer.
If questioned about it, my response would simply be that if I was extended and offer and my job duties require a suit here, I will buy a suit upon accepting the offer. I think it is non sensiscal to spend hundreds of dollars on something I don't need.
If followed up with "What about first impressions?" I would respond with "I think my answer should be my first impression, not my attire".
Having a job and no suit, I would probably not show up for an interview in a suit. I'd dress nicely but not wear a suit. And if they don't like it, it's not a good fit for me anyway.
An exception might be for a financial firm where looking good matters because it doesn't take a genius to do what these people are doing. But I am still not spending $400+ on a suit for what might be a job offer.
If questioned about it, my response would simply be that if I was extended and offer and my job duties require a suit here, I will buy a suit upon accepting the offer. I think it is non sensiscal to spend hundreds of dollars on something I don't need.
If followed up with "What about first impressions?" I would respond with "I think my answer should be my first impression, not my attire".
You're over thinking it. What's a suit? It's a jacket & slacks (shit + tie is worn with a suit, but that could be any dress shirt and tie. Chances are you already have black slacks. If it ever came up, you just get a black jacket.
Him trying to correct my grammar incorrectly caused me to face-palm enough it didn't justify a reply - thanks for doing so for me!
If I was a hiring manager, I wouldn't ask you why you weren't wearing a suit, I just wouldn't hire you. Wearing a suit to the interview is proper etiquitte for any office job. If you can't follow basic rules of decorum for a job interview, why should I believe you can follow them while performing your job functions?
I don't have black wool dress slacks and have never purchased a pair. I can't remember ever seeing anyone at the office wearing them. Just buy a cheap Navy suit, they're like $100 - $200.
Also, black suits are a no-no in professional settings. I wouldn't hold it against someone wearing one in an interview, but they don't belong in the office.