Wow, so OP is reveling in using what little power he has in life in making it difficult for those who are less privileged than he? By picking on what are essentially petty issues? Good job, man. You're a real manly man.
Wow, so OP is reveling in using what little power he has in life in making it difficult for those who are less privileged than he? By picking on what are essentially petty issues?
You could always start a thread about "Why old people are stupid"Wow, so OP is reveling in using what little power he has in life in making it difficult for those who are less privileged than he? By picking on what are essentially petty issues? Good job, man. You're a real manly man.
Wow, so OP is reveling in using what little power he has in life in making it difficult for those who are less privileged than he? By picking on what are essentially petty issues? Good job, man. You're a real manly man.
Wow, so OP is reveling in using what little power he has in life in making it difficult for those who are less privileged than he? By picking on what are essentially petty issues? Good job, man. You're a real manly man.
Not wearing a suit, bringing a parent to the interview, not having resume copies and possessing an arrogant "what can you do for me" attitude aren't exactly petty things. They highlight the idiocy that many of these kids have been taught. Reread the thread.
So, I gather you're a millennial that hasn't started looking for a job yet?
This thread is just a bunch of old curmudgeons whose brains have plasticized into a read only organ. They have become the intellectual equivalent of little wind up toys capable of one simple task and never deviating from that. Turn the crank and they walk straight and will continue to proceed in that direction until they encounter an obstacle. At which point they are stuck. For they are so unwilling and unable to change that their problem solving skills are limited to repeating the same actions; which is to continue to walk forward even right into a wall or off a cliff.
Not only that, in a survey of 22- to 26-year-old college graduates by Adecco, a staffing and recruiting company, 8 percent reported that a parent accompanied them on at least one job interview, and 3 percent said a parent actively joined the interview.
In an Adecco survey of hiring managers, 75 percent said millennials' biggest interview mistake was dressing inappropriately
Black said he is often struck by millennials' casual approach. "I've gotten emails saying 'hey, it was gr8 to meet you'" after a recruiting event, he said.
Black contends that employers need to make some adjustments to their expectations in order to work successfully with millennials—and millennials need to do the same.
"We've made lots of changes around the different technology platforms we use," he said. When his firm is training millennials, it offers podcasts and webcasts because "this is how this generation learns."
But 20-something job candidates and employees need to respect the client focus of the business, and adjust their behavior accordingly, he added.
Perception: professionalism like many other attributes are merely in the eye of the beholder.
Plenty of people get higher paying jobs without a suit. That really depends on the job you're looking for. Alot of employers these days won't even take paper resumes so why would you even think to bring a physical copy? Why is that even important if the employer already has one to begin with?
Most places that are worth working for value skills and abilities over superficial nonsense.
This thread is just a bunch of old curmudgeons whose brains have plasticized into a read only organ. They have become the intellectual equivalent of little wind up toys capable of one simple task and never deviating from that. Turn the crank and they walk straight and will continue to proceed in that direction until they encounter an obstacle. At which point they are stuck. For they are so unwilling and unable to change that their problem solving skills are limited to repeating the same actions; which is to continue to walk forward even right into a wall or off a cliff.
This forum needs facepalms and popcorn in the the smilies to just make it better I'd say.Plenty of people get higher paying jobs without a suit. That really depends on the job you're looking for. Alot of employers these days won't even take paper resumes so why would you even think to bring a physical copy? Why is that even important if the employer already has one to begin with?
Most places that are worth working for value skills and abilities over superficial nonsense.
This thread is just a bunch of old curmudgeons whose brains have plasticized into a read only organ. They have become the intellectual equivalent of little wind up toys capable of one simple task and never deviating from that. Turn the crank and they walk straight and will continue to proceed in that direction until they encounter an obstacle. At which point they are stuck. For they are so unwilling and unable to change that their problem solving skills are limited to repeating the same actions; which is to continue to walk forward even right into a wall or off a cliff.
I think we can all agree that taking your phone out to respond to a text during an interview is unprofessional.
If we can't agree there then I guess there's no point continuing to debate the merits of professionalism.
I'm mainly talking about nonsense like not wearing a suit or bringing a physical copy of your resume (unless requested). If they are interviewing you, that means they have your resume so why do they need another?
The thing about articles like these is of course you'll hear about the worst any particular group has to offer. What if we had a thread that was entitled "Why can't black people land jobs?" with comments like "I saw this black person acting all gangsta like and spoke ebonics during the interview (which I'm sure happens)" And then watch that thread or anything else bearing that title go over like a lead balloon.
Perception: professionalism like many other attributes are merely in the eye of the beholder.
But feel free to sit back and judge the world from your computer desk Mr. O'Reilly
Curmudgeons represent! Actually, I have found it's the 'youts ' who are rigid and inflexible in changing their approach to changes in business and their environment. I speculate that it's the lack of experience dealing with those changes that inhibits them. Further, many see no value in learning from the mistakes of the past and are hell bent on repeating them, all the while complaining about how "set in our ways " and how unwilling to try something "new " we are.
I'm mainly talking about nonsense like not wearing a suit or bringing a physical copy of your resume (unless requested). If they are interviewing you, that means they have your resume so why do they need another?
Projection. I'm not saying this is representative of all baby boomers, but I once worked at a place where the average age was 50+, and the saying "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" has been proven well beyond a reasonable doubt. And I will also tell you is that place had more than it's share of lazy ass overpaid people.
According to your definition. I do the job because I'm paid to do the job, not because I said I would. What I said is unimportant, if they're not paying me; then it's time to drop what I'm doing and find another job.B.S. Professionalism is using best practices to get the job done despite unrealistic time lines, personality issues and, work environment. It's getting the job done because you said you would not, because you get paid to do so.
The suit depends of the type of job you are looking for. When my former employer interviewed who was to become the quality lab supervisor (who was 27), they gave him a tour of the facility and he was dressed like any typical millennial. Khakis, polo shirt, North Face jacket.While I agree with the resume, the suit thing is BS. It will never HURT your chances at getting a job, yet you can't be bothered to put one on? GTFO.
You seem to be doing a bit of "projecting " yourself.
My experience has been different and I've got more.
According to your definition. I do the job because I'm paid to do the job, not because I said I would. What I said is unimportant, if they're not paying me; then it's time to drop what I'm doing and find another job.
I guess I'm just an unprofessional millennial.
The suit depends of the type of job you are looking for. When my former employer interviewed who was to become the quality lab supervisor (who was 27), they gave him a tour of the facility and he was dressed like any typical millennial. Khakis, polo shirt, North Face jacket.
It won't hurt your chances, but I don't see how that should be grounds for disqualification under normal circumstances.
In an Adecco survey of hiring managers, 75 percent said millennials' biggest interview mistake was dressing inappropriately