Why no IE 12 in Windows 10?

Compman55

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Noticed with windows 10 preview is still using IE 11. Is this going to change by final?

Secondly is windows 7 going to get future browsers?
 

Dahak

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Noticed with windows 10 preview is still using IE 11. Is this going to change by final?
I would have to guess Yes, although there is no word yet.
my guess would be, when the Consumer Preview comes out in early 2015

Secondly is windows 7 going to get future browsers?
I believe ie12 is planned for 7, at least the they have not said it wont. Anything after that is hard to guess
 

Mushkins

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Considering that MS initially weren't wanting to do IE11 for Win7 then caved in, I strongly suspect they won't develop IE12 for it.

There's still six years of extended support for Win 7, and businesses will not be moving to Windows 10 until at *least* 2016.

Win7 will most likely get IE12 because businesses will moan about it, but IE13 is probably going to be the "switch to Win 10" cutoff.
 

Underclocked

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So far, based upon the direction MS seems to be heading with Win10, I wouldn't look for businesses to be rushing to do any upgrading.
 

escrow4

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There's still six years of extended support for Win 7, and businesses will not be moving to Windows 10 until at *least* 2016.

Win7 will most likely get IE12 because businesses will moan about it, but IE13 is probably going to be the "switch to Win 10" cutoff.

Too bad. Did XP get IE 10 or 11? If you are using an OS that is lifecycle security support only, then upgrade or get stuck on old software. MS should now be exclusively focussing on Win 10 and Win 8.1 as 7 is obsolete come January 2015 - its feature complete, no more service packs, no more nothing. Security updates only.
 

SPBHM

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Too bad. Did XP get IE 10 or 11? If you are using an OS that is lifecycle security support only, then upgrade or get stuck on old software. MS should now be exclusively focussing on Win 10 and Win 8.1 as 7 is obsolete come January 2015 - its feature complete, no more service packs, no more nothing. Security updates only.


Windows XP is stuck with IE 8, and the extended support only ended 6 months ago,

also Windows 8.0 is limited to 10, while 7 was updated to 11 (8.0 to 8.1 even if it's free is not an automatic update, and 8.0 still has a long life when it comes to security updates I think)

limiting XP to IE8 only helped Firefox and Chrome I think... the same will happen with 7, I don't think it's enough to force people to upgrade to a new OS, but it's probably enough motivation to install another web browser!?
 

Mushkins

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Too bad. Did XP get IE 10 or 11? If you are using an OS that is lifecycle security support only, then upgrade or get stuck on old software. MS should now be exclusively focussing on Win 10 and Win 8.1 as 7 is obsolete come January 2015 - its feature complete, no more service packs, no more nothing. Security updates only.

It's hard for businesses to upgrade to a product that has yet to be released, and you, me, and Microsoft all know that Windows 8.1 is not a feasible upgrade path for a large portion of the business world (where MS makes all their money).

Can they not give IE12 to Windows 7? Sure, it's their product. But if they don't it's gonna be fun to watch the adoption rates of their flagship "most secure and up to date" browser flail as sourly as Windows 8 did. Smart money says they're going to keep releasing for Windows 7 until Windows 10 is a viable business upgrade path.
 

Skaendo

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Can you not just download IE and install it manually? I seem to remember to be able to do this some time ago for one of the older versions of Windows.
 

CSMR

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I find IE11 performs well compared to competing browsers and is stable and easy to update, but lacks add-ons, has poor font rendering (regression from previous versions) and does not have color management.
 

smakme7757

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Normally it's 3 to 4 years between Windows versions. Now it's only a year.

Only so much they can do in a single year.
 

StinkyPinky

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I've been using Win 10 at work, I actually think it's pretty nice. I can see it being the next corporate OS (like Vista, most companies will skip 8)
 

nemesismk2

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When i first got windows 7 in 2009 i was surprised that the browser was internet explorer 8 which is what i had with windows xp. I thought it was very slow so used firefox with windows xp and windows 7 instead lol

It's probably going to be the same with Windows 10 being IE11 because it's working well and then IE12 at later date because Windows 10 isn't being released until late 2015.
 
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zokudu

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I had an issue of not being able to install Microsoft Update with it. I had to downgrade to 10 before it would install.

Add microsoft.com to the compatibility list and you can install Microsoft Update with IE11. The IE11 browser string is very different from IE10 and below.
 

VirtualLarry

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I wasn't happy with IE11. When you start to type a URL into the bar, it auto-suggests URL completion. So it seems like it's sending the URLs you type to Microsoft, even if you decline "SmartScreen" functionality.
 

Rhonda the Sly

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I wasn't happy with IE11. When you start to type a URL into the bar, it auto-suggests URL completion. So it seems like it's sending the URLs you type to Microsoft, even if you decline "SmartScreen" functionality.
Search Suggestions have nothing to do with SmartScreen and each is toggled independently.
 

ArisVer

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I wasn't happy with IE11. When you start to type a URL into the bar, it auto-suggests URL completion. So it seems like it's sending the URLs you type to Microsoft, even if you decline "SmartScreen" functionality.

IE12 will have the same features.
 

ninaholic37

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I wasn't happy with IE11. When you start to type a URL into the bar, it auto-suggests URL completion. So it seems like it's sending the URLs you type to Microsoft, even if you decline "SmartScreen" functionality.
MS says "InPrivate Browsing" stops it, apparently you can use it full time like this.
 
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