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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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LOL this is so true. Sure it takes 2 minutes to break it down and put it in the recycling, but I tell myself "what if I need to return it, or what if I want to ship something out to someone, I'd hate to pay for a box when I had some I got rid of, I better keep them".
Oh, come on, you know you'll have another box showing up soon!
 

ponyo

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Feb 14, 2002
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I've read about 50% of Amazon sales come from third party sellers. How expensive are Amazon fees? I thought I read somewhere its north of 20%. That's more expensive than eBay. Not that I care. I just care about lowest buy price. I never sold anything on Amazon or eBay and don't plan to. Both sites heavily favor buyers. eBay is ridiculous pro-buyer and anti-seller.
 

adairusmc

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Jul 24, 2006
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I am getting more and more stuff from amazon these days, even things I would have typically shopped for locally. For example, I bought a new pickup recently and wanted to get a few items for it. The dual fuel filters that it takes were quoted from $145-160 locally, but on amazon with prime shipping they were $77 for the pair. Ebay was a tad more expensive at about $88 shipped - but it wasn't prime, and the seller doesnt offer returns.

Same for tires, I was able to get a set of BFG KO2 all terrain tires, normally about $300 a tire in the size for this new diesel, except amazon had them for $207 shipped with prime shipping. Ebay was close at $227 per tire shipped, but amazon still beat them.

I always shop around, but with items that have prime shipping and easy returns, Amazon usually comes out on top most of the time.
 

ponyo

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I am getting more and more stuff from amazon these days, even things I would have typically shopped for locally. For example, I bought a new pickup recently and wanted to get a few items for it. The dual fuel filters that it takes were quoted from $145-160 locally, but on amazon with prime shipping they were $77 for the pair. Ebay was a tad more expensive at about $88 shipped - but it wasn't prime, and the seller doesnt offer returns.

Same for tires, I was able to get a set of BFG KO2 all terrain tires, normally about $300 a tire in the size for this new diesel, except amazon had them for $207 shipped with prime shipping. Ebay was close at $227 per tire shipped, but amazon still beat them.

I always shop around, but with items that have prime shipping and easy returns, Amazon usually comes out on top most of the time.
Amazon is targeting automotive parts as the next market they want to dominate. So auto parts are typically cheaper on Amazon than anywhere as Amazon is subsidizing the cost in order to kill the competition. Once Amazon achieves dominance, they will raise prices like they've done for every other category.
 

adairusmc

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Amazon is targeting automotive parts as the next market they want to dominate. So auto parts are typically cheaper on Amazon than anywhere as Amazon is subsidizing the cost in order to kill the competition. Once Amazon achieves dominance, they will raise prices like they've done for every other category.


Well, it is good that I bought spares, I bought three of those fuel filter kits (they last 15k miles each so they should last a while) and the tires I wont need for another 60,000 miles most likely, but at least I have them on hand. Should last me a few years, so when it comes time to re-order I might have to shop on eBay again. Living out in the middle of nowhere gives me a "two is one, one is none" mentality.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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I answered your question. Why did you ask the question if you didn't want to hear the answer?
It was a rhetorical question anyway... so, you know, thanks for saying a bunch of obvious things in response to it.

But at any rate, I'm quite confident that Amazon is more likely to be an authorized reseller of Widgets, if you buy it on ebay you are more likely to find non-authorized sellers, and have to put in your own legwork to find out if the seller is authorized.
 

ponyo

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Feb 14, 2002
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It was a rhetorical question anyway... so, you know, thanks for saying a bunch of obvious things in response to it.

But at any rate, I'm quite confident that Amazon is more likely to be an authorized reseller of Widgets, if you buy it on ebay you are more likely to find non-authorized sellers, and have to put in your own legwork to find out if the seller is authorized.
Sellers on eBay will say on their listing if they're authorized reseller. Amazon rarely discloses. Just like Amazon is not always the cheapest, Amazon is not always authorized seller. You have to check with the vendor product to confirm whether you're buying from eBay or Amazon. So you're not correct.
 

KentState

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Oct 19, 2001
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I typically only use eBay for used or one-off items where the risk of being burned isn't a big deal. As long as Amazon is the seller or shipping from their warehouse, I don't really have to worry if I need to return or exchange the product.
 

BurnItDwn

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Oct 10, 1999
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Ebay has the same problem Amazon has with counterfeit / knock off / imposter / fake products.
The only difference is that Amazon is at least paying lip service to the idea of trying to cut down on them.
 

Rifter

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Oct 9, 1999
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I got screwed on a couple of deals on E-bay almost 15 years ago. Their various "buyer protection policies" didn't help me in the slightest. I haven't bought there since.
At least Amazon (generally) takes care of buyers who get taken by unscrupulous sellers. E-Bay could care less...as long as they get their fees.

Same here, ebay is fine if you are a seller but you get fucked hard if you are the buyer and something goes wrong, havent used ebay in over 10 years because of it, lost over 1k on a large purchase.

I have yet to lose a cent with amazon, they are great to deal with if you have an issue.
 

Meghan54

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Oct 18, 2009
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It was a rhetorical question anyway... so, you know, thanks for saying a bunch of obvious things in response to it.

But at any rate, I'm quite confident that Amazon is more likely to be an authorized reseller of Widgets, if you buy it on ebay you are more likely to find non-authorized sellers, and have to put in your own legwork to find out if the seller is authorized.

Completely depends upon if the seller is Amazon itself or a third party seller as to whether the product is authorized for a particular seller to sell. And waaaay too many knock-offs on Amazon these days....getting worse than ebay.

I sold on Amazon for a few years, but increasing fees, too many overseas sellers undercutting legitimate sellers in the U.S. with fakes, horrid treatment by Amazon's CSR's vis a vis 3rd party sellers (buyers are actually encouraged by CSR's to file A-to-Z complaints in lieu of trying to work out any problems with the seller like you would in a B&M store...and if you don't win the A-to-Z claim, the buyer gets his money back AND keeps the product. No problem for Amazon-sold items, but for 3rd party sellers, it's not exactly good, esp. when you add in that most A-to-Z claims are lost by the sellers, despite documentation, etc.)

Add to that that Amazon in increasingly no longer the lowest priced source, what's the reason to buy from them again?
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Completely depends upon if the seller is Amazon itself or a third party seller as to whether the product is authorized for a particular seller to sell. And waaaay too many knock-offs on Amazon these days....getting worse than ebay.
If you go back and read my first post, you'll see I explicitly stipulate "sold by Amazon"
 

smitbret

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I rarely use eBay and until now I couldn't put my finger on the reason why; it's just a subconscious decision to use Amazon. To be fair, I have been a Prime member since like 2007.

#1 - Amazon feels like a legit store and eBay feels like a flea market
#2 - Amazon has always taken care of me as a buyer. eBay? Not so Much. Amazon has bought my loyalty.
#3 - When I buy it from Amazon, I know when it is going to arrive and how it is going to show up. For the few items I have purchased from eBay lately, they are getting much, much more predictable but still.... no guarantees.
#4 - eBay's website still looks like a flea market. Amazon looks like a good, large etailer. Although I really prefer NewEgg's website to either when it comes to tech purchases.
#5 - Did I mention Amazon customer service is outstanding. The only place I have ever done business that was better was the software company that sold me the software for my media server (Conceiva/Mezzmo)

Amazon just makes it so easy and predictable. The other day my six year old looks out the window and saw the familiar brown delivery truck pull up in front of the house and yelled, "Mom, the Amazon truck is here!" I guess she couldn't see the big 'UPS' logo on the side.
 

Carson Dyle

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I sometimes browse ebay, but very seldom buy anything there. Good place to find odd items, some used items, products that have been discontinued. Not much else, IMO.

Agreed, Amazon isn't always the cheapest, especially on lower priced items where they offer free Prime shipping. They need to pay for that shipping somehow. I can find most things locally for less.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Although price is a big deal, I don't mind paying a little bit more for quality service and convenience.

Same reason even though sometimes things are a bit more expensive at CostCo but I'll buy it there.
 

PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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i use amazon and ebay to find multiple names / part numbers for items then i pick the lowest price one. 99% of the time ebay is cheaper and has free shipping, even with the same store on both.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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I got screwed on a couple of deals on E-bay almost 15 years ago. Their various "buyer protection policies" didn't help me in the slightest. I haven't bought there since.
At least Amazon (generally) takes care of buyers who get taken by unscrupulous sellers. E-Bay could care less...as long as they get their fees.

10 years ago that was true. Lately the balance has tipped. Ebay buyer protection is rock solid (to the point of being unfair to sellers) and Amazon has gotten a lot less reputable. Amazon shipping is terrible and the Marketplace is about as trustworthy as somebody selling stem cells out of the back of a 7-11 in Hoboken. I look at ebay first now and only go to Amazon for things that are too large/heavy to get shipped cheaply on ebay.
 

ViviTheMage

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Dec 12, 2002
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I do it for the warranty and the amazing return ability they have. I had a camera break 3 years after purchase, manuf warranty was 1 year, amazon refunded the original buy amount...that's just one example.

Ohh, a recent one, I bought a $1650 laptop (Gigabyte p35x-v6) and it disappeared with UPS, so they resent me one next day air...few weeks later the other one showed up. I asked if they wanted it back, they said don't worry about it, its yours, haha.

I also had a friend order a TV stand for $350 or so, but they ended up giving him a Samsung TV that was $1500 or so, they also said keep that, and sent the stand free, hahaha. With the lack of stealing (B&M), they must have a lot of extra cash for accidents like this.

I am in the, I buy EVERYTHING at amazon, except groceries boat.
 
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MrSquished

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Jan 14, 2013
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I just like Amazon. For years their customer service and shipping was totally on point. Lately their shipping has been slipping here and there. But it's just comfortable. 95% of the time it's totally on point shipping wise. Customer service hasn't slipped. I'll stick with what I know.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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The selection
The returns
The browsing
The free music
The free movies
The free softcore porn
The free books
My cook
Her husband
The Thief
His lover
 
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