Why people, why?

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: Chosonman

If you're talking about how the Anandtech review touted the upgradablility of SLI consider this. Contrary to what you may believe (and what your parents told you). Not everything writen in online product reviews are fact and not opinion. Personally I think the writer sounded overly enthusiastic about a new product he had probably never experienced before and overspeculated as to the possibile ramifications of it.

And you're doing the right thing Insomniak. "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen."

Y'know what? That juvenile bait was so good, I think I'll humor you and take it, at least for the time being. I loves a good argument m'sef.

I'm talking about the Anandtech review's conclusions on upgradability, I'm talking about the demonstrated 10-15% difference between SLI 6600GTs and a single 6800GT at 4x/8x and 1600x1200.

I think it's difficult to write a product review of something you've never experienced, especially when you've just benchmarked it. Benchmarking something simply must be considered experience with it.

Like I said, if you know better, go start your own hardware website. I'm sure you'll get a huge following, cancer and AIDS will be cured, George Bush and Ed Kennedy will become Polo partners, and world peace will take over.

Let me know when it happens.

As it stands, Anandtech has greater credibility than you do, and their conclusions are in direct opposition to yours. So, gg, thanks for playing.

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: necine
I think you can run 2 monitors on the 6600 SLI set up, which would be beneficial to some people. Also, when the 6800 SLIs are more accessible you could sell your 6600s at a decent price and upgrade.

True, but you can also do that with a dual output single card for a lot less than $370. Thus one would get a Ultra board. The 6800GTs have been accessible for at least two weeks now. ive been watching them. I dont know where some of you have been looking. lol

Actually this is False. You can not run dual monitors with a 6600GT SLI setup. However, you can run three monitors if you turn off the SLI and just have the two cards running.

I built an SLI 6600GT setup. It was for no other reason than I wanted an SLI setup, but didn't want to spend 900 for two 6800GTs. I wanted two 6800 GTs, hell I even wanted two Ultras, but I don't want to pay the price for them. Not every upgrade is about performance, sometimes it is just for something different. I had never had an SLI system, so this time around I wanted to get on board. To tell the truth I don't game that much, so I don't need 16*12 with everything on high. I just wanted to play with SLI. And for you SLI haters out there, I didn't like it. I have since sold my second 660GT and am currently just using 1 6600GT and am 100% satisfied with its performance. It is faster than my old 4200ti and it plays CS:S just perfect.

So don't get on people just because they don't do what you would do, that?s why there are so many options. To me paying 250 dollars over the price of a 6600GT to get the 25 more FPS that you can't even see that the 6800GT* provides is stupid, but I am not a gamer and I'm not going to start a thread about it. I am a computer enthusiast, and I love computer hardware, and the many different things it can do; I would appreciate the same for you.

kd





* THG, HL2 benchies 1024x768, 4x AA, 8x AF, 32bit

6600GT 82.5
6800GT 107.9
6600GT SLI 106.7 (just for S&G) ? maybe if you have one monitor SLI isn?t that bad of an option compared to the higher single 6800GT, but you are right 90 more bucks for that 1.2 FPS more is a bargain.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: aeternitas
I would really like to see a LOGICAL arguement for getting two 6600GTs for an SLi setup as opposed to one 6800GT. Half the setups I come accross people are getting 6600GTs for their SLi rig. Am I f-ing missing something? Did I not read between the benchmarks or something? Do you get a free blowjob from a hot nVidia milf if you buy 6600gts?

I dont get it. Fill me in.

because alot of people are putting only one 6600gt in their sli rig, because the performance will suffice for them, for now. You forget the the PCI-e version of the 6800gt is still waaaay overpriced right now. Some poeple just can't afford a $500 card.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: kd2777
* THG, HL2 benchies 1024x768, 4x AA, 8x AF, 32bit

6600GT 82.5
6800GT 107.9
6600GT SLI 106.7 (just for S&G) ? maybe if you have one monitor SLI isn?t that bad of an option compared to the higher single 6800GT, but you are right 90 more bucks for that 1.2 FPS more is a bargain.

I was going to take you seriously, but I saw 1. Your a self proclaimed trendwhore. 2. I saw "1024x768" and just laughed. Come back when you get a clue.

Originally posted by: Insomniak
I'm talking about the Anandtech review's conclusions on upgradability, I'm talking about the demonstrated 10-15% difference between SLI 6600GTs and a single 6800GT at 4x/8x and 1600x1200.

Here you go, troll.
28% Improvement
40% Improvement

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is a bit of a loaded question it seems.

Partly it is retrospective- there are a lot of people who are running dual 6600GTs because the 6800GTs WERE $500 and up if you could find one. Is the performance advantage the 6800GT holds worth a near $140 premium? I would wager no.

Another element- why would anyone buy a X800XT, 6800U, 6800NU or X800Pro- none of them are reasonable buys when compared to the 6800GT either- why don't we see dozens of threads lamenting those people on their purchasing decissions? It seems it is quite popular to criticize those who picked up dual 6600GTs, but not people who spent too much money on any of the other parts this generation.

Back in the olden times a 6800GT was ~$500, but now is closer to $400. There is no more $140 premium. Even if their WERE, why the hell would someone spend a premium on a SLi motherboard to begin with? One is buying a SLi board for the PURPUSE of better gaming performance.
That?s WHY SLi was made. Then they are sticking in two cards (because gee, it has two slots so I HAVE to buy two cards right now der der) and getting less than a single 6800GT. You can?t argue about added cost when they are spending more for this in the first place. Its ricockulous.

Originally posted by: TekDemon
Cuz they spent $300 on an SLI board and feel like they should be able to use the SLI they paid a premium for, but don't have $900 for the 6800GT's.

That's my best guess heh.

Who said they have to buy two at once? Buying ONE would give you better performance. Epiphany?

Originally posted by: Samus
doing SLI now is stupid, its purely a future-proof thing, assuming it catches on.

i got the asus sli board because a) its available b) its $30 more than the non-sli board and c) if sli is successful, i can get another 6600gt card in 6 months for $120 or so and get 50-60% better performance over my old single 6600gt configuration.

Or you can sell your single 6600GT for $100, use the $120 + $30 that you were going to buy for that second 6600GT and get %70-%100 better preformance, less heat less energy better stability better airflow, etc etc.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: aeternitas
I would really like to see a LOGICAL arguement for getting two 6600GTs for an SLi setup as opposed to one 6800GT. Half the setups I come accross people are getting 6600GTs for their SLi rig. Am I f-ing missing something? Did I not read between the benchmarks or something? Do you get a free blowjob from a hot nVidia milf if you buy 6600gts?

I dont get it. Fill me in.

because alot of people are putting only one 6600gt in their sli rig, because the performance will suffice for them, for now. You forget the the PCI-e version of the 6800gt is still waaaay overpriced right now. Some poeple just can't afford a $500 card.

ITS NOT $500 :roll:

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: Insomniak
I'm talking about the Anandtech review's conclusions on upgradability, I'm talking about the demonstrated 10-15% difference between SLI 6600GTs and a single 6800GT at 4x/8x and 1600x1200.

Here you go, troll.
28% Improvement
40% Improvement

You really are entirely clueless aren't you? You posted two different maps from the SAME GAME. I posted AVERAGE PERFORMANCE SUMMARIES FROM FIVE DIFFERENT GAMES.

Anyone can find one benchmark to justfiy their position. You know, sometimes a GeForce FX 5900 beats a 9800XT (Doom 3?). Is the 5900 the better card?

:roll:

Here's a quote from the exam same review we both linked, talking about the Half-Life 2 performance summary:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=12


Overall SLI will make a pair of 6600GTs perform like an overclocked 6800 Ultra or it will let 6800GT owners run at even higher resolutions/AA modes under Half Life 2.


It's all right there on the page...try reading before posting next time.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: Insomniak
I'm talking about the Anandtech review's conclusions on upgradability, I'm talking about the demonstrated 10-15% difference between SLI 6600GTs and a single 6800GT at 4x/8x and 1600x1200.

Here you go, troll.
28% Improvement
40% Improvement

You really are entirely clueless aren't you? You posted two different maps from the SAME GAME. I posted AVERAGE PERFORMANCE SUMMARIES FROM FIVE DIFFERENT GAMES.

Anyone can find one benchmark to justfiy their position. You know, sometimes a GeForce FX 5900 beats a 9800XT (Doom 3?). Is the 5900 the better card?

:roll:

Here's a quote from the exam same review we both linked, talking about the Half-Life 2 performance summary:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=12


Overall SLI will make a pair of 6600GTs perform like an overclocked 6800 Ultra or it will let 6800GT owners run at even higher resolutions/AA modes under Half Life 2.


It's all right there on the page...try reading before posting next time.

DAMMIT aeternitas DONT call people troll if you are one! he's been here approx 25-30x longer tha you have! you are the true troll at 25.6posts a day. STOP FLAMING IN THESE THREADS!

edited out cause he's never gonna read them.

and dont bother to tell me im a n00b, troll or whatever cause at least in my more than 400 posts, the only people i have flamed is the scammer KILLERKID and the troll you! the rest are respectable hardware discussions that helped people!

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Insomniak you really don't have a clue what you're talking about. You can't even wrote a coherent sentence.

This whole thread was worth reading JUST for that. Thanks for the new sig! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
This is a bit of a loaded question it seems.

Partly it is retrospective- there are a lot of people who are running dual 6600GTs because the 6800GTs WERE $500 and up if you could find one. Is the performance advantage the 6800GT holds worth a near $140 premium? I would wager no.

Another element- why would anyone buy a X800XT, 6800U, 6800NU or X800Pro- none of them are reasonable buys when compared to the 6800GT either- why don't we see dozens of threads lamenting those people on their purchasing decissions? It seems it is quite popular to criticize those who picked up dual 6600GTs, but not people who spent too much money on any of the other parts this generation.

How dare you bring logic into this discussion! Seriously, though, you are right on the money.

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
because alot of people are putting only one 6600gt in their sli rig, because the performance will suffice for them, for now. You forget the the PCI-e version of the 6800gt is still waaaay overpriced right now. Some poeple just can't afford a $500 card.

ITS NOT $500 :roll:
Back in the olden times a 6800GT was ~$500, but now is closer to $400. There is no more $140 premium.

No, but it's not $400 either. These are the 6800GT PCI-E cards in stock as of right now:

eVGA
Monarch-- $450
GameVE-- $458
ZZF-- $459
ADK-- $465
NCIX-- $544

xfx
GameVE-- $458
BuyXG-- $462
Newegg-- $445
Chief Value-- $449
ComputerHQ-- $465
XPC-- $499

BFG
Monarch-- $450

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: Insomniak
I'm talking about the Anandtech review's conclusions on upgradability, I'm talking about the demonstrated 10-15% difference between SLI 6600GTs and a single 6800GT at 4x/8x and 1600x1200.

Here you go, troll.
28% Improvement
40% Improvement

You really are entirely clueless aren't you? You posted two different maps from the SAME GAME. I posted AVERAGE PERFORMANCE SUMMARIES FROM FIVE DIFFERENT GAMES.

Anyone can find one benchmark to justfiy their position. You know, sometimes a GeForce FX 5900 beats a 9800XT (Doom 3?). Is the 5900 the better card?

:roll:

Here's a quote from the exam same review we both linked, talking about the Half-Life 2 performance summary:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=12


Overall SLI will make a pair of 6600GTs perform like an overclocked 6800 Ultra or it will let 6800GT owners run at even higher resolutions/AA modes under Half Life 2.


It's all right there on the page...try reading before posting next time.

DAMMIT aeternitas DONT call people troll if you are one! he's been here approx 25-30x longer tha you have! you are the true troll at 25.6posts a day. STOP FLAMING IN THESE THREADS!

stop being a a55hole in every forum you're in!! cant you ever dispense any useful, helpful info? in your 333 posts, i have yet to see 1 post that isnt outright lying, passing opinion as indiputable fact or flaming someone trying to help or tell an an opnion!

If you got a problem with Insomniak's opinion, then talk to him about it.


I MAY NOT AGREE WITH Insomniak's OPINION BUT I CAN RESPECT THAT AT LEAST HE HAS THE MATURITY TO NOT FLAME YOU TO HELL WITH HIS MATURITY! YOU ARE ABOUT AS MATURE AS A 10 YEAR OLD BULLY!!

i HATE to call people newbs but you truly are one! you've been here 13 days and already has adopted the attitude that you automatically know more than anybody and anyone that says anything else is wrong!

and dont bother to tell me im a n00b, troll or whatever cause at least in my more than 400 posts, the only people i have flamed is the scammer KILLERKID and the troll you! the rest are respectable hardware discussions that helped people!

I 100% agree with you.

What is wrong with some people liking different things? You are not all knowing and you for sure aren't right all the time.

You called me a trend whore, I say OK I am. I like trying new computer parts. What is wrong with that? You tell me to get a clue because I stated the results from THG, and they tested it in 1027x768, what is so wrong with that? Is 1024x768 with 4xAA and 8xAF that bad of a resolution?

I have a feeling you won't last long here. It won't be to long until people see aeternitas and say, "oh it's him again" and just move on. And being the attention whore that you are you will move on too.

kd

 

[mwmorph]

Insomniak
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. "
-voltaire
One of the greatest rights my country was built from.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
Insomniak
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. "
-voltaire
One of the greatest rights my country was built from.

I agree. It's not like there's a right or wrong answer here - you can qualify it in so many different ways that saying "this is right" is just ludicrous.

 

[amol]

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
-Voltaire

one of my ALL-TIME FAVORITE QUOTES . . .

I also love one of his other quotes -

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities

kinda pertains to the topic here