why psychiatry is authoritarian bs

[IronWing]

Where's my free ipod?

He doesn't own an iPod. If he bought one he would have to pay sales tax which would support the state.

 

[JEDIYoda]

This is really going places.......another Grade A thread by our resident Anarchist!!

 

[AViking]

If someone can develop a drug that will help you but not make you drowsy I bet you would love it.

You make almost no sense off your meds so they are definitely helping you.

 

[5150Joker]

OP needs more Risperdal Consta. Come to our facility, you seem like you need help.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

This thread makes me sad for the op... but it also makes me want to say fuck you for all the people I know dealing with mental illnesses (including me) some of which took their lives or nearly so.

Just keep taking your meds and maybe one day you'll actually be able to escape this fantasy land of yours and join the rest of us.

 

[halik]

anti-psychotics (regardless of the dose) dont really help me, they just stop me from pissing other people off. they put me to sleep on too high of a dose and if i am too low of a dose i dont really know the difference. if someone commits aggression against someone, then we need decentralized county-level justice where aggressors are punished proportionally while victims are restituted proportionately.

B does not follow A

Schizophrenia? Just guessing given the disorganized thoughts.

I will say that the difference in coherence of your P&N posts is almost binary - you either have reasonably logical liberatrian-angled views* or you post completely incoherent nonsense. From that I'm inclined to think the anti-psychotics do make difference and you should keep on taking them.

* and certainly more sophisticated than what I would expect from someone that professes his IQ is ~80

 

[JulesMaximus]

So, the OP is mentally ill. Got it.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Crazy people are notoriously unreliable when it comes to the subject of their own craziness.

 

[poofyhairguy]

but if i cant think straight off of them and if i have to take them to know the difference, then im beyond help.

Or it seems the pills help maybe?

also, the meds arent going to do me any good in the long run or at least they wouldnt if people were free.

Well life is what it is. If you got to pop pills to deal with it you are just another average American.

 

[Drako]

Have you read Dianetics? :biggrin:

 

[IronWing]

Have you read Dianetics? :biggrin:

For the real inside scoop on psychiatry he needs to read That Hideous Strength.

 

[KeithTalent]

Holy shit, Tom Cruise posts here. Who knew?

KT

 

[TridenT]

Too bad the psych ward doesn't take away your internet access. And please take more anti-psychotics.

This...

 

[Anarchist420]

So what do you propose in place of psychiatry to deal with the issues the crop up from mental illnesses? You mentioned proportional punishment against aggressors, but what about treatment?

make all drugs legal and unregulated while allowing self-defense. plus see below.

This sounds like you don't have insight. Yes, antipsychotics can make you sleepy so you just need to work with your psychiatrist to adjust the dose appropriate. Not sure what's going on with the last sentence? Flight of ideas?

i dont think i was having flight of ideas. perhaps it was in the wrong place though. anyway, what i meant was psychiatrists are securitarians who think that they can prevent a huge amount of violence by having a legislative monopoly privilege on medicating people.

so instead of having psychiatrists try to protect society, the county sheriff (who is a true public servant and only of the people in the town in which he/she was elected) makes sure murderers become lifelong slaves to the estate of the murdered.

 

[ahenkel]

Holy shit, Tom Cruise posts here. Who knew?

KT

I came here for this and am now pleased.

 

[Anarchist420]

[...]I'm inclined to think the anti-psychotics do make difference and you should keep on taking them.

i have no plans to discontinue them. i am taking just as many as was when i joined here more than 3 years ago.

Schizophrenia? Just guessing given the disorganized thoughts.

i was dx'd with Schizoaffective disorder depressive subtype. but i have hyperactive frontal lobes rather than hypofrontality, so i dont know what the hell i have given that the latter is what occurs in schizophrenia. the psychologist whom i love so much and just went to said i may be on too much medication... he is skeptical of psychiatry and so am i.

am i going to reduce my abilify dosage from what i was on in 2010? no, at least not now. do i think it's necessary for my own happiness? no. do i think i have severe problems? yes. do i think whatever "mental illness" psychiatrists diagnose me with makes up most of my problems? hell fucking NO.

anyway, i was quite surprised to see so many people on AT supporting the authoritarian bs that is psychiatry.

 

[Patre]

I read somewhere that in the 1800's, the majority of mental asylums in London (or some part of UK) were completely closed down after a Catholic priest had performed individual exorcisms on each and every patient that was instituted.

I wish I could remember where I read it.....but, I think that's quite interesting.

 

[rockyct]

There are gunmen who shoot up theaters, or throw themselves off of a bridge; mental illness can and does kill plenty of people.



Mental illnesses are not created by men; they are ways to figure out what is wrong with your brain. There aren't physical tests which tell 100% currently, but there may be tests like that in the future, we just don't have the technology yet.



They are one and the same; if your brain is messed up, then it can limit you.



That's debatable; I agree that suicide should be a legal option for anybody that wants it, as long as there is a waiting period, a waiver, and an area to write down your last will.



Businesses have to make money; I thought you were pro-business? There isn't enough time to treat every patient to the degree that they might need, but that's just a limit in manpower / resources.



Versus no treatment at all? If the business has no motivation, then relying upon people for charity is going to not get as far as a for-profit business.



In other words they help you.



There actually are standards, if you'd bother to read them.



See above.

Please listen to this guy. There is something physically different with your brain to make it operate in this way. There is a lot we do not understand about the brain and how it works, but the brains of people with mental illnesses work differently.

 

[Doppel]

mental illnesses are not like, say, myocardial infarctions... the former cannot kill you.

mental illnesses are created by men (with very questionable motives) as no physical test can say with 100% certainty what mental illness you have.

mental illnesses cannot really limit you. what limits you most/advances you most is the overall physical characteristics of your brain.

if a mental illness is likely to cause to someone to commit suicide, then the psychiatric industrial state should not try to stop one from committing suicide.

the doctor at the psych ward didnt even observe me directly (or at least not for more than 5 minutes) before he diagnosed me. and then some really cool guy got a shot in the ass when he didnt even try to hurt anyone... he was just going on manically about lincoln and bi polar disorder which and it was really kind of funny. he told me that the psychiatric ward was just trying to make money off of me and i agree with him.

mental illnesses enrich psychiatrists and many pharmaceutical companies at the expense of patients who want prescriptions and the tax payer.

anti-psychotics (regardless of the dose) dont really help me, they just stop me from pissing other people off. they put me to sleep on too high of a dose and if i am too low of a dose i dont really know the difference. if someone commits aggression against someone, then we need decentralized county-level justice where aggressors are punished proportionally while victims are restituted proportionately.

psychology and biology are perfectly useful and they often follow ethical standards, but psychiatry has no ethical standards in favor of the patient.

do i think i need medication if i wanted to think straight at all? of course. does that mean that it is because i was diagnosed with a mental illness? hell no.

let me know if you want to argue with me on any of this.

no

 

[Dumac]

How many discoveries wouldn't have happened if autistic people could be "fixed"?

This is me just being curious: were a lot of discoveries made by people with autism?

 

[poofyhairguy]

anyway, i was quite surprised to see so many people on AT supporting the authoritarian bs that is psychiatry.

Meh, someone always needs to be a gatekeeper. People on average are too dumb, uninformed, and ignorant to make the best decisions for themselves.

 

[JEDIYoda]

let me know if you want to argue with me on any of this.

your last sentence should have been let me know if you want to discuss any of this with me!!

As it is nobody wants to argue with you......what`s the sense.....

 

[lxskllr]

This is me just being curious: were a lot of discoveries made by people with autism?

Don't know honestly. Autism is fairly new as a diagnosis. Years ago, they might have been called eccentric. Autism is good for dogged, single minded pursuit of goals, and I'd be very surprised if it didn't generate some impressive discoveries.

Edit:
Overall, I think we should use extreme caution in engineering nature, but especially with humans. Problems can be fixed in some cases, but the shining stars could be put out before they're even born. It's the weirdos and special flowers that really drive us forward as species, and answer questions no one thought to ask. Without them we'd have safe, predictable mediocrity. I don't think that's a valuable trade off.

 

[soulcougher73]

This post explains so much about you. Thanks

 

[waggy]

wow. I thought you were just a troll. know i know you are a fucked up individual with brain damage.