Why Texas didn't have any looting

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Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Folks stop whining.

In this current context, which I expected you to understand, killing is not appropriate and would make you a bad person according to normal societal rules.

Says you.
Says the government and the Bible.

Actually, in Texas the government says that shooting trespassers is not bad. That's one down.

Secondly, what difference does it make what the bible says? If god doesn't want looters getting shot, he can stop the bullet.
*shrug* well you can't blame me for not knowing Texan laws. I'm pretty far away from there.

Up heres its illegal.
 

engineereeyore

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Jul 23, 2005
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As the great Ron White put it, "In Texas, we have the death penalty, and we USE IT!!!" That'd be reason enough for me.
 

Kalbi

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Jul 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: irie
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
Originally posted by: Tommunist
Originally posted by: brxndxn
That's how it oughta be in every state.. The more people with weapons, the safer society becomes, because MOST people are GOOD people. Shoot the bad people.

rrrriiiiigghhttt. judging by the average intelligence/maturity level in this country I'd rather most poeple didn't have guns.

Hitler felt the same way, neighbor. I agree that I'm happier knowing that some people can't legally get guns... but given a choice between 'bad guys and cops have guns, I have a target on my forehead' vs 'bad guys have to wonder if I'm carrying' I like it the way we are.
I'd say this thread has a lot more in common with Hitler then Tommunists comments.


Like what? Please explain.

How is a guy with a cold blooded murderer on his sig gonna compare Hitler with American values?
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Folks stop whining.

In this current context, which I expected you to understand, killing is not appropriate and would make you a bad person according to normal societal rules.

Says you.
Says the government and the Bible.

Actually, in Texas the government says that shooting trespassers is not bad. That's one down.

Secondly, what difference does it make what the bible says? If god doesn't want looters getting shot, he can stop the bullet.
*shrug* well you can't blame me for not knowing Texan laws. I'm pretty far away from there.

Up heres its illegal.


Guevara took responsibility for the execution of informers, insubordinates, deserters and spies in the revolutionary army. He personally executed Eutimio Guerra, a suspected Batista informant, with a single shot from his .32(7.65mm) caliber pistol.

But hey, I just idolize Che, not guns... Hell, I have a giant tattoo of Che on my back, cuz I'm a disaffected youth.
 

mercanucaribe

Banned
Oct 20, 2004
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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: zoiks
Exactly. They should ban possession of all guns altogether.
So we should give up more rights for a "War on Guns" which will prove as ineffective as our current "War on Drugs"?

Banning 500 year old technology doesnt work very well.
Actually it would be harder to dispose of a gun than drugs. Not ineffective at all as you put it. Lot of countries like Britain do not allow guns except for farmers or people who own property in the country side.
Britain banned guns and their gun crime rate went... way the hell up. Banning guns and essentially banning the right to self defense has gotten them up a creek without a paddle, or a boat.

I can quote countries with high gun ownership rates and low gun crime rates. However, it's more to the point if you look at what happens when countries ban guns (the Brits and Aussies are the best examples)... crime rates go up.

EDIT: I'd love to debate this further, but I've got to go to work (bartending). I'll come back to this thread later (though it might not be till Sunday, when I'll be back to a broadband connection).

I want to see statistics that show that their crime rate went up.
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: zoiks
Exactly. They should ban possession of all guns altogether.
So we should give up more rights for a "War on Guns" which will prove as ineffective as our current "War on Drugs"?

Banning 500 year old technology doesnt work very well.
Actually it would be harder to dispose of a gun than drugs. Not ineffective at all as you put it. Lot of countries like Britain do not allow guns except for farmers or people who own property in the country side.
Britain banned guns and their gun crime rate went... way the hell up. Banning guns and essentially banning the right to self defense has gotten them up a creek without a paddle, or a boat.

I can quote countries with high gun ownership rates and low gun crime rates. However, it's more to the point if you look at what happens when countries ban guns (the Brits and Aussies are the best examples)... crime rates go up.

EDIT: I'd love to debate this further, but I've got to go to work (bartending). I'll come back to this thread later (though it might not be till Sunday, when I'll be back to a broadband connection).

I want to see statistics that show that their crime rate went up.
Not too hard to search.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=bri...rol+crime+statistics&btnG=Search&meta=
 

Kilgor

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Kalbi
Originally posted by: irie
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
Originally posted by: Tommunist
Originally posted by: brxndxn
That's how it oughta be in every state.. The more people with weapons, the safer society becomes, because MOST people are GOOD people. Shoot the bad people.

rrrriiiiigghhttt. judging by the average intelligence/maturity level in this country I'd rather most poeple didn't have guns.

Hitler felt the same way, neighbor. I agree that I'm happier knowing that some people can't legally get guns... but given a choice between 'bad guys and cops have guns, I have a target on my forehead' vs 'bad guys have to wonder if I'm carrying' I like it the way we are.
I'd say this thread has a lot more in common with Hitler then Tommunists comments.


Like what? Please explain.

How is a guy with a cold blooded murderer on his sig gonna compare Hitler with American values?

They don't think that killing for the cause is murder. Communism has probably caused more death and destruction than all the wars in the 20th century. And people still praise the leaders as prophets and heroes, try telling the people in the mass graves and gulags what a bright future the Communist have brought. I hate all the little fake Commies that sit around in the US and other Democratic countries preaching about their Utopian Socialist states. If they love it so much they should go there a live under the yoke for awhile.


 

Mookow

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Mookow
Britain banned guns and their gun crime rate went... way the hell up. Banning guns and essentially banning the right to self defense has gotten them up a creek without a paddle, or a boat.

I can quote countries with high gun ownership rates and low gun crime rates. However, it's more to the point if you look at what happens when countries ban guns (the Brits and Aussies are the best examples)... crime rates go up.

EDIT: I'd love to debate this further, but I've got to go to work (bartending). I'll come back to this thread later (though it might not be till Sunday, when I'll be back to a broadband connection).

I want to see statistics that show that their crime rate went up.

People have already linked to articles about Britain's gun crime rates. Specifically, the post right before my post that you quoted contains this little gem:
She said one of the government's main challenges is tackling ``the culture of gun crime.'' She said that though the figures are still rising, the government is ``pleased that the rise is much smaller that it was two years ago.''
Oh, goody, so now it isnt rising quite as fast at as it used to be.
A direct link to another article:
The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000
Britain banned handguns in 1997.

As for the Aussies, I didnt find much specifically on their gun crime rate preban vs postban. As I am currently on a 36K dial-up connection, I'm going to stop searching. I did find, however, this (it is not an unbiased source, but skip the rhetoric and read the actual, useful stats):
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USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."
Given the debates over CCL's in America, that seems topical to both the preventative effects of gun ownership upon crime (ie, what this thread was started by) and the question of "what happened to Aussie crime rates after their gun ban?"

Also from that same link:
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British crime reporting tactics keep murder rates artificially low. "Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually dropped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts as nothing at all. 'With such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham,' [a 2000 report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary] concludes."
^--- yeah, that one wasnt a statistic, but it does bear upon the statistics.

Anyway, I'm tired and on a dial up connection. Good night.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
*shrug* well you can't blame me for not knowing Texan laws. I'm pretty far away from there.

Up heres its illegal.
LOL - knowing nothing about Texas has never stopped you from making ignorant generalizations before, now has it?


Boo!

 

EXman

Lifer
Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tommunist
hey - how come they are all white guys?

They look forward to shooting looters? Does that mean they are racists?
 

TomKazansky

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