Why the left hates Trump so intensely

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The 'appellation' does not fit me at all. You are free to do or say whatever you feel like, and I am similarly free to disagree, criticize, etc. If the latter makes you feel oppressed, that's your problem not mine. Freedom is a two way street. I suggest you get over it.
Nah, i like freedom, i don't think i'll be "getting over it" anytime soon.
 

Vic

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Nah, i like freedom, i don't think i'll be "getting over it" anytime soon.
I like my freedom too, which is why I resent your attempts to deny my freedom to disagree with you. Particularly the incredibly disingenuous way that you're attempting to frame such as an infringement of your own freedom. I am not required to agree with you, nor am I required to keep my disagreement silent. Like I said, get over it. Your freedom ends where mine begins, and vice versa. That's how freedom works.
 
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michal1980

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You don't get the point. WE are 100% convinced that he won't be doing *anything* "good for the people". There is not an inch of evidence for this.
Do you think we'd be ranting against Trump if we think he'd actually do something "good for the people"? What reason should we have to?

He's a wannabe pretend populist CLAIMING that he's the next incarnation of Christ "doing good for the people", but this is nothing but rhetoric. His actions, and actually his entire PAST as a shady businessman shows that he won't ever (and never has) anything to do with wanting to do good "for the people", the belief why a majority of people actually voted for him.

Yes, just like you rant against every republican ever. Every republican is the worst republican ever, the most racist, the most sexist, the most bigoted every single one.
 

raildogg

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Yes, just like you rant against every republican ever. Every republican is the worst republican ever, the most racist, the most sexist, the most bigoted every single one.
Heh, you seem to think that politicians are real authentic people.

They are actors playing their part. They are part of the ruling class that keep the people under the illusion that voting matters. They give you Democrats and Republicans to pacify you; to fool you into believing that there are sides.

By the way, racism, bigotry and hate don't exist by themselves. They are part of the human. A truly good man will not have such traits in him.
 
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You are correct and my mistake. I never paid much mind to the Tea Party as anything more than a sideshow of misdirected rage, and dismissed them as being more a nuisance than a credible movement.

I never realized they pulled the crowds they did.

Given the press coverage the "movement" has had over the years that seems a bit hard to understand.
 

agent00f

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Yes, just like you rant against every republican ever. Every republican is the worst republican ever, the most racist, the most sexist, the most bigoted every single one.

Try to ponder for a while why all those things keep getting associated with your peers: whenever some conservative peeks out from under political correctness to spout it, no matter how extreme, eg. blacks are to blame for slavery and they'd still be if not for the white man, their peers can be reliably counted upon to defend the faith. There's no mystery here why the situation is understood for what it is.
 
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I like my freedom too, which is why I resent your attempts to deny my freedom to disagree with you. Particularly the incredibly disingenuous way that you're attempting to frame such as an infringement of your own freedom. I am not required to agree with you, nor am I required to keep my disagreement silent. Like I said, get over it. Your freedom ends where mine begins, and vice versa. That's how freedom works.
That's your lie Vic, it's not conservatives trying and succeeding in violently shutting down free speech on college campuses, it's authoritarian lefties just like you.
 

Vic

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That's your lie Vic, it's not conservatives trying and succeeding in violently shutting down free speech on college campuses, it's authoritarian lefties just like you.
Excuse me, but when did *I* ever try to violently shut down free speech anywhere?
 
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Jhhnn

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That's your lie Vic, it's not conservatives trying and succeeding in violently shutting down free speech on college campuses, it's authoritarian lefties just like you.

Yes, yes. All Lefties are authoritarians & all Righties are white nationalists, huh?
 

agent00f

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Somehow what conservatives write is trolling, but the nastier, often fouler, meaner, racist and violent tinged writings of the left are OK ?

This makes for a pretty good example of why most all the smarter people correctly conclude american conservatism for what it is. No great surprise that its membership don't particularly enjoy any objective analysis of their behavior.
 
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werepossum

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It's the way protests should be conducted, with friendship between the peacekeepers and the protesters, with arrangements for porta potties, clean-up, speakers and security. This whole bullshit of confrontation, violence, vandalism and threat needs to stop. If you look at the hatred that was aimed at the Tea Party look at their "events" to see how protests should be conducted.
Yep, Tea Partiers did very nice protests. Unfortunately, if they had legitimate points, they tended to disappear if someone mentioned gay marriage or birth certificates.

The US was founded on the concept of dissent to authority. We will respect legal uses of power, but we will not "suck it up" and be silent when we see government curtailing our rights and freedoms, rejecting science and tolerating (or even endorsing) corruption. Authoritarian cowards demand unquestioning obedience; real freedom-lovers at least accept that protests will happen, even if they don't believe in the causes of the protests themselves.
Well said. Please remember that the next time the left insists that conservatives not be allowed to speak on college campuses.

This makes for a pretty good example of why most all the smarter people correctly conclude american conservatism for what it is. No great surprise that its membership don't particularly enjoy any objective analysis of their behavior.
Right, specifically, those "smarter people" who are unable to provide their own health insurance, child care, birth control . . .

You know, those special people who are too smart to earn their own way.
 

agent00f

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Well said. Please remember that the next time the left insists that conservatives not be allowed to speak on college campuses.

Seems an exercise in futility to clue conservatives in why it's not in their interest to throw their lot in with the white nationalists.

Right, specifically, those "smarter people" who are unable to provide their own health insurance, child care, birth control . . .

You know, those special people who are too smart to earn their own way.

Keep in mind the additional +14% non-college white and +10% college shift for R & D this election, respectively. If rural america had marketable skills, maybe it can cut back on the massive white welfare program that's half the budget.
 
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Jhhnn

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Right, specifically, those "smarter people" who are unable to provide their own health insurance, child care, birth control . . .

You know, those special people who are too smart to earn their own way.

I'm sure you'll be cheering as more & more Americans are put in that very position so that the richest people in the solar system can have even more.
 
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