Why the uproar if a bunch of white folks want to hang together and burn a cross?

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pcgeek11

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The problem with being overly tolerant is evil sneaks right by. People who think 'their crazy ideas don't affect me' and, 'I'll just ignore the idiots and keep to myself,' enable the hate groups. These groups ARE the minority yet have an unreasonable amount of impact through fear and misplaced tolerance.

They can think whatever they like. As soon as they publicly talk about it or demonstrate, it becomes my business whether done legally or not.

I thought it was on Private Land.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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The problem with being overly tolerant is evil sneaks right by. People who think 'their crazy ideas don't affect me' and, 'I'll just ignore the idiots and keep to myself,' enable the hate groups. These groups ARE the minority yet have an unreasonable amount of impact through fear and misplaced tolerance.

They can think whatever they like. As soon as they publicly talk about it or demonstrate, it becomes my business whether done legally or not.

I thought it was on Private Land. Therefore they are Not publicly talking about it or demonstrating it. So it is none of your business.
 

PokerGuy

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Nope, I want the community to stand up and point at them on the radio, TV, newspaper and, literally. Let them know loud and clear their views are not wanted, accepted or, tolerated.

Actually, being part of a free society means you have to accept and tolerate the fact that they have a right to do what they want to do. You don't have to agree with it or like it, but you do have to tolerate it. For reference, see the westboro idiots and their despicable activities.
 

pcgeek11

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It would be wonderful if they all were in a building having a meeting and it burns down with them in it. Hell i wouldn't convict the person who set the fire. Their deaths would be a great thing, a reason to celebrate.

Well that would make you just as bad as they are.
 

yllus

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If only whites are invited to a gathering where crosses are going to be burned, it's not a sure thing that it's a gathering of a bunch of racists, but it's really likely. The rest of the world is just acting on the best information given to them.
 

pcgeek11

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I think most people are missing the point entirely. If I wanted to shove a wine bottle up my ass and hang from the ceiling fan in my private home, land, etc ... it is nobodies business but my own.

Now if I tried to do it in a public location it is an entirely different matter.
 

jackstar7

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I couldn't give a soft shit about a bunch of assholes in the woods. What is disappointing is the people who allow those leaflets in their business/church/etc. advertising for the bunch of assholes.

Also, their horseshit excuse of "We don't have the facilities to accomodate other races" is priceless.
 
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Jaskalas

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If these Christians are a hate group, then so are Muslims. Beware what you wish for in attacking them, for groups to pick on are plentiful.
 

jackstar7

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If these Christians are a hate group, then so are Muslims. Beware what you wish for in attacking them, for groups to pick on are plentiful.

What the fuck are you talking about?

If this small religious group is a hate group, then a whole other vast religion is?
 

Jaskalas

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What the fuck are you talking about?

If this small religious group is a hate group, then a whole other vast religion is?

Really, you don't think we can pick apart individual groups within the larger? You lack imagination. Like a bull seeing red, intent to destroy one without recognizing the harm you'd do to others.

Set a precedence of persecution in this country, and it will burn like wildfire.
 

jackstar7

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Really, you don't think we can pick apart individual groups within the larger? You lack imagination. Like a bull seeing red, intent to destroy one without recognizing the harm you'd do to others.

Set a precedence of persecution in this country, and it will burn like wildfire.

I'm more lost regarding what's in your head now than I was previously.

Can you just articulate your point plainly? Are you saying that people shouldn't pick on some racist shitheads because that will lead down the slipperly slope to other groups being picked on? Because I thought there was a pretty reasonable consensus that ignorance is harmful as a rule. And folks who choose to be ignorant out loud deserve the derision bestowed on them by a society that doesn't tolerate loud ignorance.

Have I wandered off the beaten path with these ideas?

Are we not to answer the clarion call of the idiots with the light of reason and reality to quell their stupid hate and maybe move a couple steps forward away from the shitty part of our collective past they represent? Are we really supposed to learn nothing from history?
 
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gingermeggs

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Wack the cuffs on, spin their lill' hoods around, stick em in a plane bound for Gitmo.
For a free holiday at a water fun park!
 

yllus

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I think most people are missing the point entirely. If I wanted to shove a wine bottle up my ass and hang from the ceiling fan in my private home, land, etc ... it is nobodies business but my own.

Now if I tried to do it in a public location it is an entirely different matter.

Nobody should try or be able to stop you. That doesn't mean other people shouldn't be able to talk, laugh or even shun you if your secret gets out. People are allowed to make a big deal of it if they'd like to.
 

Mandres

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Obviously these morons have the right to go jerk each other off in their white hoods, but I think the more interesting question is whether they have the right to paper the town with these advertisements. And whether the mayor was within his rights to order them removed.

I guess it would depend on the local laws in regard to offensive or pornographic material right?
 

Jaskalas

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Are we not to answer the clarion call of the idiots with the light of reason and reality to quell their stupid hate and maybe move a couple steps forward away from the shitty part of our collective past they represent? Are we really supposed to learn nothing from history?

I think it's more like, how do you intend to respond to them?

Bunch of idiots on private property doing nothing wrong. My original response is generic, in reply to the sense that something must be done to stop these folks. While I'm sympathetic to the notion of them being vile, that in itself is not a crime.

So I'd like to get an idea of where this topic is heading, form a lynch mob to burn the place down?
 

jackstar7

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I think it's more like, how do you intend to respond to them?

Bunch of idiots on private property doing nothing wrong. My original response is generic, in reply to the sense that something must be done to stop these folks. While I'm sympathetic to the notion of them being vile, that in itself is not a crime.

So I'd like to get an idea of where this topic is heading, form a lynch mob to burn the place down?

I don't think there's a groupthink going on here. There actually seem to be more than just two sides being represented.

Seems like you were trying to counter something that wasn't seriously being advocated...
 

IGBT

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long standing democrat tradition going back to the US civil war. Liberals were frothing at the mouth mad they had to give up their slaves.
 
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