AMEN!!None of those are constitutional rights, so they can have more restrictions.
If the government is going to require an ID to vote, they should have to go door to door providing free IDs to everyone who is eligible to vote.
I still don't buy than mass numbers of people would risk prison time to try to vote illegally when it's hard to get registered voters to bother.
The government requires ID to purchase a firearm, isn't that a restriction on a constitutional right?None of those are constitutional rights, so they can have more restrictions.
If the government is going to require an ID to vote, they should have to go door to door providing free IDs to everyone who is eligible to vote.
I still don't buy than mass numbers of people would risk prison time to try to vote illegally when it's hard to get registered voters to bother.
Problem is if red state governments are responsible for going door to door, I have a good feeling they’d “miss” some areas.None of those are constitutional rights, so they can have more restrictions.
If the government is going to require an ID to vote, they should have to go door to door providing free IDs to everyone who is eligible to vote.
I still don't buy than mass numbers of people would risk prison time to try to vote illegally when it's hard to get registered voters to bother.
The government requires ID to purchase a firearm, isn't that a restriction on a constitutional right?
it is! congratulations, you've learned that no right is unlimited!The government requires ID to purchase a firearm, isn't that a restriction on a constitutional right?
Giving false information on an application for voter
registration is perjury, punishable by imprisonment
for up to 10 years, and a violation of the election laws,
punishable by a fine of up to $1,000, or by imprisonment
for up to 5 years, or both.
This seems like a circular argument to me. If you have to have "proof of eligibility to vote" to get registered, why is it wrong then to ask a voter to show that proof again when they vote? Have they lost it somehow? I am speaking of in person voting here, BTW. Obviously there has to be accommodation for mail in ballots for those who are homebound, in a nursing home, etc.it is! congratulations, you've learned that no right is unlimited!
the fact that voter ID requirements disenfranchise voters far in disproportion to the number of fraudulent votes they prevent means they're completely ineffective measures! and in particular, voter ID laws disproportionately affect rural, poor, and minority communities the most - communities that have historically been neglected, or in the case of minority communities, purposefully targeted to minimize their electoral participation.
restricting rights are always weighed against the benefits of doing so. to register to vote, you need to provide proof of eligibility to vote in the first place. so having to do so *again*, after a voter has already proven their eligibility to vote, is asinine, and is merely a tool to prevent certain demographics (see above) from voting.
i can only speak for maryland, but a valid driver's license, MVA ID, or SSN is used for registration "proof" of ID and eligibility.
"but what happens if you lie on your registration form?" you ask. i'm glad you did. you've just subjected yourself to the following penalties (in Maryland, at least):
A physically disabled person would easily not have a "current" government issued Photo ID. Reality is, they don't need one, and since getting toe the DMV seems to be the easiest government issued photo ID, is a challenge plus the fact you have to prove dame and age, provide residency proof, and a social security card, or document containing full SSN. And to complete the stupidity, ID Cards issued by the DMV in my state expire... WTF.Some voter restriction laws are certainly ridiculous. As far as ID is concerned though, you have to have ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes, get on an airplane, open a bank account, buy (or even rent) a car, rent an apartment, and on and on. Are you saying poor people cant do any of these?
They don't.None of those are constitutional rights, so they can have more restrictions.
If the government is going to require an ID to vote, they should have to go door to door providing free IDs to everyone who is eligible to vote.
I still don't buy than mass numbers of people would risk prison time to try to vote illegally when it's hard to get registered voters to bother.
They've already proven elegibility. There's no need to again. If you did impersonate someone else, you're committing voter fraud. The risk and severity of penalties far outweighs any possibility that your single fraudulent vote tips the balance of any given election. And there is already processes in place to adjudicate duplicate ballots.This seems like a circular argument to me. If you have to have "proof of eligibility to vote" to get registered, why is it wrong then to ask a voter to show that proof again when they vote? Have they lost it somehow? I am speaking of in person voting here, BTW. Obviously there has to be accommodation for mail in ballots for those who are homebound, in a nursing home, etc.
Then why, upon registering to vote, a laundry list of documents are acceptable for ID, most of which do not include picture ID. Utility bill, SS correspondence, state gov correspondence,The government requires ID to purchase a firearm, isn't that a restriction on a constitutional right?
This seems like a circular argument to me. If you have to have "proof of eligibility to vote" to get registered, why is it wrong then to ask a voter to show that proof again when they vote? Have they lost it somehow? I am speaking of in person voting here, BTW. Obviously there has to be accommodation for mail in ballots for those who are homebound, in a nursing home, etc.
The government needs a judicial warrant to satisfy the fourth amendment so you’re saying it needs a warrant for all of them? Of course not.If you don't need to identify yourself to exercise one right then you don't need to identify yourself for any of them. Why should we get to pick and choose?
seeing as there's voter registration, it stands to reason that you'd be in favor of gun ownership registration, right?If you don't need to identify yourself to exercise one right then you don't need to identify yourself for any of them. Why should we get to pick and choose?
You prove your identity when you register to vote.The government needs a judicial warrant to satisfy the fourth amendment so you’re saying it needs a warrant for all of them? Of course not.
The best argument against voter ID is not that it is unconstitutional, it’s that it’s stupid. The idea is extremely dumb and we all know it.
If you want to make an argument for why voter ID is good then do it, you can’t justify it by saying gun ID laws are good.You prove your identity when you register to vote.
You prove your identity when you purchase a gun.
One and done.
You clearly missed my point.If you want to make an argument for why voter ID is good then do it, you can’t justify it by saying gun ID laws are good.
You won’t be able to, by the way, because voter ID laws are stupid and pointless.
Brazos County won’t restore Texas A&M early-voting location despite students’ pushback
County commissioners decided Tuesday that A&M still won’t have an on-campus early-voting location for the 2022 elections, despite admitting it was a mistake to eliminate it for the first time in years.
Well for statewide offices gerrymandering just doesn’t work. So gotta fall back on good old voter disenfranchisement.how to steal an election part 49876423:
Brazos County won’t restore Texas A&M early-voting location despite students’ pushback
County commissioners decided Tuesday that A&M still won’t have an on-campus early-voting location for the 2022 elections, despite admitting it was a mistake to eliminate it for the first time in years.www.texastribune.org
it has indirect effects in that if you know that your vote doesn't matter for several races you're less likely to vote at all.Well for statewide offices gerrymandering just doesn’t work. So gotta fall back on good old voter disenfranchisement.
Not sure if you all have seen Johnny Harris' latest on this subject, but it is a must watch. Basically breaks down what people here are saying about the GOP, while explaining how they've already done it.