Why we need yet another gun thread...

[Moonbeam]

I think it is important to look behind the pro anti gun positions so dominate in gun debate threads, where one side tries to prove this or that based on some study done by so and so or so and step back and ask ourselves what the gun psychosis is really all about. The answer, of course is money.

All the gun psychosis and all the reaction from fearful liberals stimulated by it is all there to milk the poor conservative brain defective out of their hard earned cash. Obama is the greatest gun salesman that ever lived. The more the gun industry can tweak and stimulate their psychotic fears of loss of gun ownership, the more these poor suckers will buy weapons to hoard away. Their brain defects stimulated by right wing media knows full well how to pull their teats and milk them. And every time a liberal faints with fear of guns, somewhere a cash register is going ka ching. It can be expensive to have a brain defect. Having an oversized right amygdala can run up some bills and make some smart people rich.

Silly conservative are just like the battery people in the Matrix, being kept asleep and bled.

 

[shortylickens]

It must be nice to get a free pass on trolling every day.

 

[Matt1970]

troll troll troll your boat

 

[Moonbeam]

It must be nice to get a free pass on trolling every day.

Your inability to respond on topic just says I'm right and you can't refute it. You troll instead. Have the courtesy to go away if you can't rub two brain cells together.

 

[Moonbeam]

troll troll troll your boat

That goes for you too. Stay out of the thread if you don't have anything to say. But I understand. Your teats are probably sore.

 

[trenchfoot]

Well, there's no denying that Pavlov could'a proved his theory just as easily from watching gun control folks ringing the gun control bell and then observing what the gun nuts do in response.

It seems to me the PGRA must work full time and then some on trying to somehow provoke the gun control advocates to break out the pitchforks and torches and start those very profitable panic sales on a regular basis.

That is some kind'a weird symbiotic relationship of sorts and I don't see why the gun control advocates aren't demanding a cut from the retailers who really clear the shelves every time the cycle repeats itself.

 

[LunarRay]

There is always a motive to behavior... to the extent it is not instinctive unless you consider instinct a motivator...

This gun control issue has a few motivators, as I see it.

There is the political aspect which seeks to pit the liberal against the conservative and create more single issue voters leaning Right from the Left... There is the money aspect which funds the political one generated by the very folks who want the guns and lean Right on the issue. And, lurking in the background is the notion of power to move other issues tangential to the gun issue or not even related to it.

Politicians adopt the position that will get them elected or reelected... that is their objective and while they THINK they have power they are really the slaves to the objectives of folks with the control strings... The puppet dances at the will of the puppeteer... always.

IF we were all Mr. Spock's we'd likely not be so easy to manipulate.

 

[AdamantC]

Ok, this topic is now about pudding.

So what's everyones favorite flavor? I myself prefer fudge. I find the cook and serve kind has better flavor and texture if you don't mind the extra work.

 

[Greenman]

And our village idiot starts yet another troll thread. I did read the first three lines, just in case moonie might have actually had a thought.
I wonder why this particular troll gets a pass and others get vacations?

 

[Greenman]

Ok, this topic is now about pudding.

So what's everyones favorite flavor? I myself prefer fudge. I find the cook and serve kind has better flavor and texture if you don't mind the extra work.

I like plain old chocolate, though I rarely have it at all anymore.

 

[LunarRay]

And our village idiot starts yet another troll thread. I did read the first three lines, just in case moonie might have actually had a thought.
I wonder why this particular troll gets a pass and others get vacations?

Don't you see any value in trying to ferret out the underlying rational for why(how) stuff happens?

Sure, self hate is the buzz word that turns some off but something makes sense when you actually ask the question regarding who is playing on the emotions of whom and why(how), No?

 

[BoberFett]

How does Texashiker's trolling get locked, and not Moonbeam's?

 

[LunarRay]

How does Texashiker's trolling get locked, and not Moonbeam's?

Hypnotherapy might be a cure for the malady underlying the 'How' it is that the gun lobby can manipulate so effectively. Not too sure the same can be said about the context your post alludes to.

That aside and the Right to own or bear arms aside also, it would seem aside from the legitimate sporting use of weapons, the next most often reason for having guns is self defense. And that finds its motivation in fear probably. Fear of being 'something'd' by some other person or thing.

I think the folks selling guns see a marketing tool housed in many jars... one is fear and that is the gist of this thread, I'd say.

 

[shortylickens]

Your inability to respond on topic just says I'm right and you can't refute it. You troll instead. Have the courtesy to go away if you can't rub two brain cells together.

Your making up lies about me in order to win your own childish pissing contest keeps you quite in line with the American Liberal Ideal.

 

[BoberFett]

Hypnotherapy might be a cure for the malady underlying the 'How' it is that the gun lobby can manipulate so effectively. Not too sure the same can be said about the context your post alludes to.

That aside and the Right to own or bear arms aside also, it would seem aside from the legitimate sporting use of weapons, the next most often reason for having guns is self defense. And that finds its motivation in fear probably. Fear of being 'something'd' by some other person or thing.

I think the folks selling guns see a marketing tool housed in many jars... one is fear and that is the gist of this thread, I'd say.

Do you see the fire detector and fire extinguisher markets the same way? If only we could get rid of that fear, there'd be no need to own either one!

And don't even get me started on seat belts and airbags and crumple zones! Fear drives (no pun intended) the auto industry, and that dwarfs the firearms industry. If only we'd stop fearing auto accidents, we could eliminate all those expensive doohickies and get back to the fun muscle cars of the 60s.

 

[Zaap]

Ok, this topic is now about pudding.

So what's everyones favorite flavor? I myself prefer fudge. I find the cook and serve kind has better flavor and texture if you don't mind the extra work.

Rice.

Love me some rice pudding. With raisins. Ever since I was a kid and my mom made it. My wife makes a pretty good rice pudding too.

You have to talk like Bill Cosby when you eat pudding. Mandatory.

 

[Jaskalas]

Obama is the greatest gun salesman that ever lived.

hmm.... :hmm:

Moonbeam has a point.

 

[LunarRay]

Do you see the fire detector and fire extinguisher markets the same way? If only we could get rid of that fear, there'd be no need to own either one!

And don't even get me started on seat belts and airbags and crumple zones! Fear drives (no pun intended) the auto industry, and that dwarfs the firearms industry. If only we'd stop fearing auto accidents, we could eliminate all those expensive doohickies and get back to the fun muscle cars of the 60s.

That which is compelled by law is done so for a few reasons... Public Safety and like that... Some of that is driven by the fear that if we don't create a safe environment the offset is a more costly one... Fear manifests in lots of potentialities. It is always ahead of us though... a future event based on some rationalization as to the outcome.

I'm and I assume Moonbeam is speaking to using a particular set of stimuli to create conditions which are predictable for a sector of the population. I don't own guns [I support without question you're Right to, however] and I don't develop a need nor desire to own one because there are bad folks who'd be more likely to turn me into a victim if they assumed that to be true. Perhaps that is a bit of nutty thinking opined by those who'd say, 'better safe than sorry', or like that.

So.. I ask myself, "Self... why don't you own a gun to protect against some nasty possibility?" I say to myself, "I don't know but would like to find out."

Why didn't I ever worry about the gangs in my area of Brooklyn or Staten Island when I was growing up... What makes me unlike the folks who'd walk miles out of the way to avoid them? It's not easy to find answers that have a high probability of being true... The best one can do is try to understand what others REALLY have motivating them.... and that is quite hard cuz folks usually say what they think is the reason without any attempt to touch the real reasons if there is a difference. I'm not saying there is always some self hate motivator at work, but rather, I'm saying we behave for reasons we are not fully aware of but yet proclaim we are with a certainty that, to me, indicates they really can't be that sure.

I hope I've made some sense here.


But, yeah.... I'd love to be driving what provided for Lots of tires worn out in front of 'Skateland' !!!!!

 

[Moonbeam]

And our village idiot starts yet another troll thread. I did read the first three lines, just in case moonie might have actually had a thought.
I wonder why this particular troll gets a pass and others get vacations?

I read as far as 'And' and realized you were an idiot.

 

[Moonbeam]

Do you see the fire detector and fire extinguisher markets the same way? If only we could get rid of that fear, there'd be no need to own either one!

And don't even get me started on seat belts and airbags and crumple zones! Fear drives (no pun intended) the auto industry, and that dwarfs the firearms industry. If only we'd stop fearing auto accidents, we could eliminate all those expensive doohickies and get back to the fun muscle cars of the 60s.

I love the commercials where the government is coming to take your fire extinguishers. Car manufacturers build for safety because it sells cars. People want them for rational reasons. Safety is a genuine concern, even a reason for some to want a gun. You might note, were you not such a reactionary joker, that my point is that irrational fears in stupid people are being manufactured to sell more guns. We will see this issue continue to be whipped up because gun sales are falling again. The panic that Obama will take them away is starting to wane. You should have some concern for the poor chumps that are being taken advantage of. They are very stupid and lack education and have low paying jobs. They should be buying vegetables for their kids.

 

[Moonbeam]

Your making up lies about me in order to win your own childish pissing contest keeps you quite in line with the American Liberal Ideal.

You just proved it again. You can't say one word on topic. You, like a number of other idiots that have joined us here, just stick your fingers in your ears and go nanananananana. Brain defective.....

 

[Moonbeam]

That which is compelled by law is done so for a few reasons... Public Safety and like that... Some of that is driven by the fear that if we don't create a safe environment the offset is a more costly one... Fear manifests in lots of potentialities. It is always ahead of us though... a future event based on some rationalization as to the outcome.

I'm and I assume Moonbeam is speaking to using a particular set of stimuli to create conditions which are predictable for a sector of the population. I don't own guns [I support without question you're Right to, however] and I don't develop a need nor desire to own one because there are bad folks who'd be more likely to turn me into a victim if they assumed that to be true. Perhaps that is a bit of nutty thinking opined by those who'd say, 'better safe than sorry', or like that.

So.. I ask myself, "Self... why don't you own a gun to protect against some nasty possibility?" I say to myself, "I don't know but would like to find out."

Why didn't I ever worry about the gangs in my area of Brooklyn or Staten Island when I was growing up... What makes me unlike the folks who'd walk miles out of the way to avoid them? It's not easy to find answers that have a high probability of being true... The best one can do is try to understand what others REALLY have motivating them.... and that is quite hard cuz folks usually say what they think is the reason without any attempt to touch the real reasons if there is a difference. I'm not saying there is always some self hate motivator at work, but rather, I'm saying we behave for reasons we are not fully aware of but yet proclaim we are with a certainty that, to me, indicates they really can't be that sure.

I hope I've made some sense here.


But, yeah.... I'd love to be driving what provided for Lots of tires worn out in front of 'Skateland' !!!!!

The conservative brain defect, if it is anything else, is certainly characterized by a complete lack of self awareness, the complete absence of any knowledge that the possessor of the defect experiences unconscious motivation. It is the complete denial of negative feeling. They are hardened and cold because they have been humiliated and made to feel that feelings make them weak. They are the course, un-evolved, psychologically ignorant. They bully and piss on people because that's what happened to them. They are like child soldiers who are abducted, brutalized, and sent out to do battle.

 

[davmat787]

Your inability to respond on topic just says I'm right and you can't refute it. You troll instead. Have the courtesy to go away if you can't rub two brain cells together.

But you are not interested in responses from those you have labeled as having "brain defects", I mean why would you? Rather, you use replies from conservatives to further troll and bash.

Oh well, you at least waited until the second paragraph to mention conservative brain defects, good job!

Now, in regards to the topic you chose to troll with. Do you have any data that shows what % of gun sales is fear driven, vs. non fear purchases? I think you are severely overestimating the effect of the supposed fear driven marketing.

In short, you say you are right and everyone who disagrees with your OP is wrong, yet where is the proof to your assertion?

 

[Carson Dyle]

Sure, we can always use another worthless thread. Can't have too many.

 

[davmat787]

How does Texashiker's trolling get locked, and not Moonbeam's?

I am wondering the same thing, it doesn't make sense if one is able to look at it objectively.