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Doppel

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He lives with her, so there's likely a lot of tension there. It could be oedipal.
I've known a couple of people like that. They become trapped by their mom and can just never seem to find a way to escape, either by an unfair sense of duty she puts on them or fear of what is out there outside of her umbrella.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Based on the number of posts in this forum someone must be on the "Worst European Vacation Ever". A regular reincarnation of the Griswold family.

To be fair, I think he said he was just planning his "horribly expensive" vacation.
We're supposed to be impressed and envious of his vast wealth.
 

Londo_Jowo

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To be fair, I think he said he was just planning his "horribly expensive" vacation.
We're supposed to be impressed and envious of his vast wealth.

Ahhhh so him booking a gondola ride in Venice is supposed to make us jealous. Been there, done that and as I said before it's no different than a pole driven pirogue ride in a Louisiana bayou.
 

LunarRay

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Mar 2, 2003
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To be fair, I think he said he was just planning his "horribly expensive" vacation.
We're supposed to be impressed and envious of his vast wealth.

After speaking with my son who just got back from Italy, I'm not too sure I'd visit some of the cities he's planning on. Rome is full of scams and you'd better keep your belongings close... heck, can't even take pictures in the Sistine Chapel.

But Venice and Florence were beautiful! I can't imagine wanting to go to the LA swamps but Venice... sure.
 

Doppel

Lifer
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Nope! He don't... and as usual your certainty betrays you.

Even his butler gets a kick out of your posts.
I think your friendship with him betrays you. I understand not wanting to talk shit about somebody you're on a personal level with, but trying to defend P&N's preminent troll (as you must realize he is--trolls are in the eye of the beholder and most people have that opinion of him) must be increasingly difficult for you.
 

LunarRay

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Singapore and Bali are much nicer than anywhere in Europe. You can also go on a gondola ride in Singapore as well.

For two years we lived in Europe... well, In Cork. We had facilities there and in Liege, Leipzig, Bordeaux, Skelmersdale and Maidenhead so I traveled quite a bit. Of all the history that is contained in Europe the place that holds everything for me is Ireland... Armagh, where my mother was from.

I spent time in a few SE Asia places, Hong Kong and Japan but they never captured my interest.

Even if Moonbeam paid for my ticket I'd not go anywhere other than Ireland today. [And, Moonbeam... don't be sending me down any dam tickets to Shannon ]
 

LunarRay

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I think your friendship with him betrays you. I understand not wanting to talk shit about somebody you're on a personal level with, but trying to defend P&N's preminent troll (as you must realize he is--trolls are in the eye of the beholder and most people have that opinion of him) must be increasingly difficult for you.

Not at all... There are times we talk into the wee hours of the morning on the general topic of the mind and its various tangents... We talk about anything and everything. So while you see an aspect of Moonbeam you don't see the totality and that is a shame.

He must be the most prolific internet reader on the planet. His interests are as informed as they are varied.

One thing for sure, though... The bits he shares on this forum were developed not by reading but by doing. You'd be wise to at least try and see into some of what he is on about.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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One thing for sure, though... The bits he shares on this forum were developed not by reading but by doing. You'd be wise to at least try and see into some of what he is on about.

You mean hatred? I'm pretty sure we all see what he's about.
 

LunarRay

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You mean hatred? I'm pretty sure we all see what he's about.

Hatred is an aspect of the entirety.

You, me and others see as we can.

I don't mean to be saying I have better vision but, rather, I assume there are many aspects of behavior that are motivated by stuff we hypothesize on but can't be certain of. All aspects are motivated by something even if it is instinct.

You can take any issue and find folks on one side or the other... I'm interested in why some folks are apathetic to the issue. What might be the physical difference tween the folks, if any. Why don't folks vote, for instance. Is it because they don't think it matters to them personally or that they are irrelevant and why(how) does it occur. IOW, do they actually believe they have no stake in the matter?

The mind is a strange thing... I read a published article on a girl who did not register fear regardless of the stimuli and, as I recall, she had a normal or non specific Amygdala... I also read where there are more than the Amygdala involved with fear...

But, hatred in the context of Moonbeam is to do with self hate. Maybe worthless can replace hate.... as a term. Maybe the non voter feels worthless and of no consequence to the overall. How that comes to being is the question.
 

Doppel

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So while you see an aspect of Moonbeam you don't see the totality and that is a shame.
Oh, I assumed this. I was fairly sure he's not this much of an idiot in real life. Nobody would be able to tolerate him for even a minute.
You'd be wise to at least try and see into some of what he is on about.
Nah, he isn't interested in helping people, just belittling them. I am his Newton's law.
But, hatred in the context of Moonbeam is to do with self hate.
Wow. Well, when he convinces you during one of your late night "chats" to drink poison koolaid at least we can say we saw it coming. Given that your sig echoes his nonsense and you're driving relentlessness to defend I assume you look up to him a great deal indeed.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Hatred is an aspect of the entirety.

You, me and others see as we can.

I don't mean to be saying I have better vision but, rather, I assume there are many aspects of behavior that are motivated by stuff we hypothesize on but can't be certain of. All aspects are motivated by something even if it is instinct.

You can take any issue and find folks on one side or the other... I'm interested in why some folks are apathetic to the issue. What might be the physical difference tween the folks, if any. Why don't folks vote, for instance. Is it because they don't think it matters to them personally or that they are irrelevant and why(how) does it occur. IOW, do they actually believe they have no stake in the matter?

The mind is a strange thing... I read a published article on a girl who did not register fear regardless of the stimuli and, as I recall, she had a normal or non specific Amygdala... I also read where there are more than the Amygdala involved with fear...

But, hatred in the context of Moonbeam is to do with self hate. Maybe worthless can replace hate.... as a term. Maybe the non voter feels worthless and of no consequence to the overall. How that comes to being is the question.

You certainly sound like moonie. Enough so that I'll never be convinced that your not the same fellow. It doesn't really matter one way or the other, if you're just a manifestation of moonies kinder side, then you're a pleasant manifestation indeed. I'm fine with that.

Back on topic (sort of), I think I disagree with your first sentence. I don't really believe that hatred has to be a part of anyone's personality. Anger and frustration certainly, but not hate. Hate is long term anger, and it's consuming. I may be to lazy to hate.
 

LunarRay

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Oh, I assumed this. I was fairly sure he's not this much of an idiot in real life. Nobody would be able to tolerate him for even a minute.

More of a rough, tough cream puff.... hehehehe

Nah, he isn't interested in helping people, just belittling them. I am his Newton's law.

There is little doubt that the inverse square law is applicable so you must be talking about Gravity.... the weakest force... Far out Mr. Newton.

Wow. Well, when he convinces you during one of your late night "chats" to drink poison koolaid at least we can say we saw it coming. Given that your sig echoes his nonsense and you're driving relentlessness to defend I assume you look up to him a great deal indeed.

You seem to presume with certainty. We both know you can't know what you purport to know, at least in this case... So your comments are without merit... at least as I see it... It is why I don't argue. Makes no sense in most cases. I do get a chuckle out of much of what some folks say and especially when those comments contain words of certainty... IF some folks were sat in Plato's Cave they'd demand the shadows were certainly in and of themselves the reality.

I responded in the bold bits
 

Doppel

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You sound like Moonbeam, you fancy yourself his proxy, and even your username is the same. You seem to lack the aggressiveness, though, so would you so mind if I refer to you as Moonbeam Lite?

As far as certainty is concerned, you shouldn't presume that one's projection of certainty is representative of certainty, nor is it even a bluff. There are things that can be said to illicit a response and the means can justify the end.

I was bored by Plato's Cave decades ago and in any case it doesn't excuse simple rank and file trolling that you defend Moonbeam for.
 

LunarRay

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You certainly sound like moonie. Enough so that I'll never be convinced that your not the same fellow. It doesn't really matter one way or the other, if you're just a manifestation of moonies kinder side, then you're a pleasant manifestation indeed. I'm fine with that.

Back on topic (sort of), I think I disagree with your first sentence. I don't really believe that hatred has to be a part of anyone's personality. Anger and frustration certainly, but not hate. Hate is long term anger, and it's consuming. I may be to lazy to hate.

Re: Hatred... Perhaps not. But if there is hatred then it is only part of the picture. It is not even the part you see... but, rather the motivator that causes other emotional responses. (As I see it) I'm speaking to Self Hate....

I'm not Moonster. The picture or avatar is me... Moonie is a clown... a nobody... At least on this forum. In real life he's more obnoxious... hehehehe... I do live in Solana Beach and have lived in this palatial estate for.... ummm 44 years. He lives up North and may be Santa... He's said in other Threads that we played WoW together and Diablo now too, as well, also. I say this cuz he and I don't see eye to eye on lots of stuff but on some stuff we come together with similar thinking. He's even a Berkeley-ite while I prefer Stanford and shouldn't anyone.... ()


edit: User name.... A lunar Ray is a like the streaks you see on the surface of the moon or perhaps Mars.... not at all a reflected photon.
 
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MagickMan

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Nope! He don't... and as usual your certainty betrays you.

Even his butler gets a kick out of your posts.

Loonbeam's alter ego, while the main nutjob personality on "vacation". Do you honestly believe anyone falls for this shit?

You call your mom your "butler"? I'll bet she loves that.
 

MagickMan

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You certainly sound like moonie. Enough so that I'll never be convinced that your not the same fellow. It doesn't really matter one way or the other, if you're just a manifestation of moonies kinder side, then you're a pleasant manifestation indeed. I'm fine with that.

Back on topic (sort of), I think I disagree with your first sentence. I don't really believe that hatred has to be a part of anyone's personality. Anger and frustration certainly, but not hate. Hate is long term anger, and it's consuming. I may be to lazy to hate.

That's my way of seeing it, I hope this is a sign that his main personality is going on permanent vacation, as he eluded to in a previous thread. At least LunarRay isn't abusive and hateful. :\
 

Moonbeam

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Loonbeam's alter ego, while the main nutjob personality on "vacation". Do you honestly believe anyone falls for this shit?

You call your mom your "butler"? I'll bet she loves that.

That was my mistake. I never realized how hard it would be to fool you. I have learned one thing though. You have made me much more clever myself and less easy to fool.

I now see that the titanic imbecility displayed by you, Doppel, Greenman, and Londo can only mean that you are all one and the same person, the dumbest fucker that ever walked the face of the earth.

But this is purely an application of basic analysis and should neither indicate or imply in any way that I hate you or am even mad at you in the slightest. No not at all. As a person of great means and gifts and numerous degrees in higher learning I can assure you that I view you like a bug on a pin, just a specimen defining what human inferiority looks like under a magnifying glass. Any contempt you may fancy you find is only your own projection. The only concern I would have is to avoid stepping on you and having you cling to my shoe.

It is profoundly amusing that folk of the conservative brain defect pay such deep homage to such notions as respect and responsibility and in reality possess neither. What an enormous brain defect it must take to walk around like an irresponsible leaking bag of puss while demanding respect and then display shock and outrage when somebody identifies you as such by shoving your nose right up your ass. You're so lucky to be the very type of leper whose washed feet can create saints.

But don't worry. I have a quill brush and France, I'm told, has Internet, so rest assured about da feet. I'll take good care of you.
 

Doppel

Lifer
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That was my mistake. I never realized how hard it would be to fool you. I have learned one thing though. You have made me much more clever myself and less easy to fool.

I now see that the titanic imbecility displayed by you, Doppel, Greenman, and Londo can only mean that you are all one and the same person, the dumbest fucker that ever walked the face of the earth.

But this is purely an application of basic analysis and should neither indicate or imply in any way that I hate you or am even mad at you in the slightest. No not at all. As a person of great means and gifts and numerous degrees in higher learning I can assure you that I view you like a bug on a pin, just a specimen defining what human inferiority looks like under a magnifying glass. Any contempt you may fancy you find is only your own projection. The only concern I would have is to avoid stepping on you and having you cling to my shoe.

It is profoundly amusing that folk of the conservative brain defect pay such deep homage to such notions as respect and responsibility and in reality possess neither. What an enormous brain defect it must take to walk around like an irresponsible leaking bag of puss while demanding respect and then display shock and outrage when somebody identifies you as such by shoving your nose right up your ass. You're so lucky to be the very type of leper whose washed feet can create saints.

But don't worry. I have a quill brush and France, I'm told, has Internet, so rest assured about da feet. I'll take good care of you.
/attention whore

Tell your Mommy she's forgiven.
 
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