Why Windows 7 is bad

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jhansman

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The problem lies (or, in this case, sits) between the chair and keyboard, not with Win7.
 

Stone Rain

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Windows 7 is bad because it has half the same old bugs that XP has. And because it has a folder that never gets used yet consumes 5-15GB... and you cant even move that folder. Who cares about accidental clicks? The more they try to code for it the more accidental clicks it would promote. at least this way it wont happen agian.


What folder are you referring to?
 

HeXen

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I ran into a lot of troubles...... because of this.

I remote in to a client's PC. it's Windows 7. I click Start on the taskbar. I meant to click something but it clicked "Shut down" button and the computer shut down. Client had no clue wtf is going on and left it turned off. An hour later eventually the client turned the computer on. My remote connection restored. I lost grand total of 2 hours for two clients!!! Bad bad feature! NAUGHTY!

:thumbsdown:


oh, i see, a user error suddenly means the entire OS is crap. See kids, this is the kind of mentalities that made America so fcked up right now.
 

TigCobra

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I would hope that if I was paying someone to do something for me and for whatever reason something went wrong that they would call me. You might not like calling but that's part of the job. It was obviously an innocent mistake, but not calling was a bigger one. How many hours would need to have passed before you actually would have called?

lol ok I'm done picking on you.

I agree
 

Ketchup

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Please read carefully. There were two different clients, two different PC's. One of them clicked the shutdown herself and the PC shut down.

I did read carefully. You never mentioned more than I client until this post.
 

krose

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I remote into a Win7 Pro PC and the only options are log off, disconnect, or lock. Maybe Home doesn't do this?
 

MicahC

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Why do I get the feeling this will morph into a rant about Windows Server 2003 and/or a $10,000 ethernet cable?

now I'm curious, what kind of ethernet cable costs 10k? or even more than $100, 1000 ft cables aren't even $100...

please excuse my ignorance if this is obvious.
 

Bateluer

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I ran into a lot of troubles...... because of this.

I remote in to a client's PC. it's Windows 7. I click Start on the taskbar. I meant to click something but it clicked "Shut down" button and the computer shut down. Client had no clue wtf is going on and left it turned off. An hour later eventually the client turned the computer on. My remote connection restored. I lost grand total of 2 hours for two clients!!! Bad bad feature! NAUGHTY!

:thumbsdown:

Not like you can change the default setting on that button either. Its so crowded too, down in the corner.
 

Zaap

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now I'm curious, what kind of ethernet cable costs 10k? or even more than $100, 1000 ft cables aren't even $100...

please excuse my ignorance if this is obvious.
Well far be it for me to spoil anyone's fun, but given some of cheez's prior multi-page troll threads, it seems only fitting to assume a 10k ethernet cable might be a good solution to this *ahem* current dire problem.
 

Red Squirrel

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Windows 8 solves this problem by removing the start menu altogether.

:biggrin: I loled.

Remoting in to GUI based operating systems is always a pain. Once I was remoted into a machine and I wanted to do a release/renew, which is usually a risky thing to do while you are remoted in, so figured the easiest way would be to just go to the network connection and click "repair" which essentially does that but automatically. Well I right clicked, my mouse lagged and hit disable. Oops!

Another one that used to make me nervous is the log off / restart / shut down pull down menu. If it lags you think you picked the right option but it might have actually changed on you and you just did not see it yet. It's happened to some techs before but never to me. I'd always let it sit for a bit to ensure it's fully updated. Some mice wheels are very sensitive and will go on their own, too. Microsoft mice are ironicly bad for that. Logitech ones are better as the wheel "clicks" into position so a very slight touch wont be enough to trigger it.

It definitely seems odd they would put a shut down button in such a vulnerable area though with no confirmation. But with all the eye candy and mouse gesture stuff, clearly MS does not think about remote access situations when they design their operating systems now. I would imagine remoting to a 7 machine is much more choppy than XP, too. 8 is probably living hell, trying to get the mouse JUST on the edge of the VNC/RDP session to get the menus etc... I'm furious just thinking about it. :biggrin:
 

Zxian

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It definitely seems odd they would put a shut down button in such a vulnerable area though with no confirmation. But with all the eye candy and mouse gesture stuff, clearly MS does not think about remote access situations when they design their operating systems now. I would imagine remoting to a 7 machine is much more choppy than XP, too. 8 is probably living hell, trying to get the mouse JUST on the edge of the VNC/RDP session to get the menus etc... I'm furious just thinking about it. :biggrin:

The server versions of Windows do warn you when you're shutting down a remote computer. They're really meant to be kept online though, so I guess it's sort of understandable to want to remotely shutdown a client machine. Typing 'shutdown -h now' into your linux shell doesn't give you a warning either (last time I checked).

Win7's Remote Desktop interface is actually a lot smoother than it was on XP. Maybe it's partially due to the increase in upload bandwidth, but overall, remoting into a Win7/2008 machine is quite easy and lag free on my parent's connection (0.5Mbps upload).
 

Sulaco

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You clicked the Shut Down button and the computer shut down?

That's a pretty bad operating system, alright.
 

cheez

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now I'm curious, what kind of ethernet cable costs 10k? or even more than $100, 1000 ft cables aren't even $100...

please excuse my ignorance if this is obvious.
ethernet cable can go up to $10k. Audio cable to around $58k. Power cords go up to $1 million each. I can't continue talk about cables as the mods/forum director/forum owner/forum landlord/school teachers/professors (anandtech staff) warned me not to talk about it or I will get into trouble.

Not like you can change the default setting on that button either. Its so crowded too, down in the corner.
I often remote into clients' machines and I need to logon as admin to do my work. To do that the user needs to log off. To do that, you gotta click a tinnie winnie little right arrow sign located RIGHT NEXT to SHUT DOWN button. It will give you the menu to select log off, restart, or whatever.. If you accidentally click shutdown button the whole PC will shut down, causing our productivity to go way down. This is actually still pretty hard task even if you are physically on the PC. Your hand must not shake. Your mouse has to be in fully working order, and no dirt, dust/ hair blocking the laser sensor. The traditional PS2 ball mouse would work but then the ball gets dirty quick and get sticky. This is like designing a handgun without the safety lock. Very dangerouzzz

You clicked the Shut Down button and the computer shut down?

That's a pretty bad operating system, alright.
Sir, please read my message right above you. It explains things.


 
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cheez

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Typing 'shutdown -h now' into your linux shell doesn't give you a warning either (last time I checked).
Yes, command line would be better. What are the chance of getting the system shutdown because you mistakenly typed "shutdown -h" in the console? ha ha Zero.
 

TigCobra

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ethernet cable can go up to $10k. Audio cable to around $58k. Power cords go up to $1 million each. I can't continue talk about cables as the mods/forum director/forum owner/forum landlord/school teachers/professors (anandtech staff) warned me not to talk about it or I will get into trouble.


If you buy a 10,000$ ethernet cable something is wrong with you.
 

Nothinman

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Yes, command line would be better. What are the chance of getting the system shutdown because you mistakenly typed "shutdown -h" in the console? ha ha Zero.

In my experience, more than clicking the shutdown button in Win7 by accident...
 

zerogear

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lmfao pebkac and it's Microsoft's fault? I don't tell if this is trolling or not.
 

Nothinman

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You typed it in to explain the command/flag thing to somebody, then hit "enter" instead of "backspace?"

Because I've done that.

No, I typed it into the wrong shell when logged into a remote server via ssh. Luckily it was just a personal machine at my place.
 

HeXen

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I often remote into clients' machines and I need to logon as admin to do my work. To do that the user needs to log off. To do that, you gotta click a tinnie winnie little right arrow sign located RIGHT NEXT to SHUT DOWN button. It will give you the menu to select log off, restart, or whatever.. If you accidentally ...blah, blah


Sir, please read my message right above you. It explains things.



A good repair guy never uses the GUI to do those kinds of things when remote. YOU accidented, not anyone else, not the machine...YOU. So you error and suddenly you blame the OS for all your troubles and woes....starts to sound like noob help and support threads at PC Pitstop forums.
 
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