Why won't Nintendo discount the Wii U?

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slatr

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I see no good deed goes unpunished. They are trying to innovate.

Why would they want to build a box so similar to MS or Sony that they are forced into second or third place?

Playing on their strengths (handheld hybrid) makes more sense than trying to compete with Sony head-on.

But anyway, I will be getting a Switch console on day one.

Yep, Nintendo isn't even trying. All they had to do was put the power of an Xbox one (cheap and available tech) in a box with a traditional controller and say "you will get a new metroid adventure game and a Mario game in the spirit of super Mario 64" and it would sell out.

It's powered by a custom version of the Tegra, I presume a slightly bumped up X1 which isn't impressive at all for gaming. I have a shield tv and the games it can play don't look any more visually impressive than what you could do a decade ago. It seems like all the games will still have sub par graphics again for Nintendo.
 

zerocool84

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The biggest issue is that this is too big and obviously can't have great battery life because of the huge screen to actually be easily portable. When that is gone what does this offer that you can't already get? Nintendo games alone aren't going to make this a huge seller.
 

zerocool84

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It's a 6in screen my dude. Have you ever seen a 6in tablet? They're not huge. And it's not outrageous to expect battery life on par with the 3DS, a bigger device can hold a bigger battery.
The WiiU game pad, which doesn't have to process the games at all, only has a 3-5hr battery life and its huge. There's no way this thing, with how thin it is, is going to have better battery life than that when it has that higher rez screen plus has to process everything itself.
 

MarkizSchnitzel

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It's a 6in screen my dude. Have you ever seen a 6in tablet? They're not huge. And it's not outrageous to expect battery life on par with the 3DS, a bigger device can hold a bigger battery.

That looks significantly bigger than 6". I have a 5.7" phone and it's much smaller. Gotta be at least 7, if not more.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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The WiiU game pad, which doesn't have to process the games at all, only has a 3-5hr battery life and its huge. There's no way this thing, with how thin it is, is going to have better battery life than that when it has that higher rez screen plus has to process everything itself.

The Nvidia Shield Tablet with the K1 processor gets less than 5 hours of battery life on a 19.75 Wh battery. That's not horrible, but it's not fantastic either. The main bonus for Nintendo is they can be free from battery drain from the Android OS.
 

cmdrdredd

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I see no good deed goes unpunished. They are trying to innovate.

Why would they want to build a box so similar to MS or Sony that they are forced into second or third place?

Playing on their strengths (handheld hybrid) makes more sense than trying to compete with Sony head-on.

But anyway, I will be getting a Switch console on day one.

Simple answer. Every time Nintendo adds a new gimmick, their developers don't know how to use it and it ends up making their games worse. Remember having to waggle the Wiimote in every game because it made the character do something? Yeah...innovation

Making a traditional console with more power would help 3rd party support as well.
 

cmdrdredd

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I don't own a 3DS, but apparently they get 3-5 hours. That's the only target Nintendo needs to hit.



If you think the Switch is a gimmick, look up the definition of "gimmick," because you clearly don't know what it means.

It's built on a mountain of gimmicks designed to somehow wow you with all it can do. Dock a mobile device to your TV, detach controls that are designed for baby's hands and do 2 player. Yeah those are gimmicks.
 

cmdrdredd

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These are objectively not gimmicks, because the word "gimmick" has a definition, and it doesn't meet that definition. Sorry for your confusion, but this isn't a matter of debate. You are wrong.

These are simply features. The fact that other consoles don't have these features doesn't make them gimmicks. You idiots cannot keep writing off anything that's different as "gimmick." It's asinine and childish and it makes it abundantly clear that you don't want to do anything other than fabricate reasons to dislike Nintendo's consoles.

Don't say gimmick again.

A gimmick is "a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business."

That's is what these so called features are. just like the 6axis controller is for the Playstation and the Kinect is for the Xbox.

Keep on using personal attacks though, it really helps your case
 

cmdrdredd

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A lie would be telling you that you'll get Shenmue 3 on the Switch. Calling waggle controls and motion controls in games a gimmick is far from that.
 

Red Hawk

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Simple answer. Every time Nintendo adds a new gimmick, their developers don't know how to use it and it ends up making their games worse. Remember having to waggle the Wiimote in every game because it made the character do something? Yeah...innovation

Making a traditional console with more power would help 3rd party support as well.

The Switch's main appeal -- using it as a handheld and docking it to use as a home console -- has nothing to do with developers. The games play the same way whether it's being held in your hand or docked, with the 2 analog sticks + d-pad + 4 face buttons + 4 bumper buttons controller setup that's become standard. The whole pulling each joycon controller off to use as a separate controller for 2 people is a bit gimmicky, I'll admit. But is it really that hard for developers to use a simple 1 analog stick and four face buttons for controls? In any case, I don't think that's the main appeal of the console. It's just a bonus feature, so to speak.
 

HOOfan 1

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Hoping for some good pre-Christmas deals. I doubt the Switch will be quite as backwards compatible as the Wii U was, otherwise I would just wait for the Switch.

Hoping to pick up a Wii U for under $200 and a Vita for under $150 this holiday season
 

Sonikku

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the 3g vita without a memory card was new for $109 a month ago. Thought about nabbing one but the cost of Sony's proprietary memory kept me away.
 
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