Why would anyone vote for hillary?

Texashiker

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Honest question, no trolling.

As a southern right wing, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-work for what you want republican I keep asking myself what has hillary done to deserve all the popularity?

She is better than trump is not an honest answer.

What legislation has hillary introduced that became law that has benefited everyday working people?

What exactly has she done?
 
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You said it but for you there is no reason. I'm a NE City guy, I'm pro-choice, pro sensible gun restrictions and pro work (we'll have to agree to disagree on this one).
I ask myself what has Trump done to assure anyone he's serious about anything his opinions change hourly
For me and nearly everyone I know shit worked pretty good under the last Clinton, particularly wages they grew substantially. I know we can look back at some mistakes like banking or crime bills but that's just Monday morning quarterbacking.
 
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Texashiker

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You said it but for you there is no reason. I'm a NE City guy, I'm pro-choice, pro sensible gun restrictions and pro work (we'll have to agree to disagree on this one).
I ask myself what has Trump done to assure anyone he's serious about anything his opinions change hourly

Please be exact, what has hillary done since she has held a public office?

What has she done that would make her qualified to even run for election?

Talking is not a qualification.
 

mxnerd

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Less evil.

She will not operate casinos and manage her real estates empire from the White House, and push nuclear button any time she wants.
 

wetech

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You said it but for you there is no reason. I'm a NE City guy, I'm pro-choice, pro sensible gun restrictions and pro work (we'll have to agree to disagree on this one).
I ask myself what has Trump done to assure anyone he's serious about anything his opinions change hourly
For me and nearly everyone I know shit worked pretty good under the last Clinton, particularly wages they grew substantially. I know we can look back at some mistakes like banking or crime bills but that's just Monday morning quarterbacking.

So vote for Hillary because Bill? That's a pretty crappy reason.
 

Indus

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Except I think Texas will flip because Hillary is not capable of inciting violence.

Also since when are we buddy buddy with Russia?
 

chucky2

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So vote for Hillary because Bill? That's a pretty crappy reason.

It's especially crappy given much of Bill's attributed success was due to an economy he really had little to do with. Sheeple are sheeple though...
 

fskimospy

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Honest question, no trolling.

As a southern right wing, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-work for what you want republican I keep asking myself what has hillary done to deserve all the popularity?

She is better than trump is not an honest answer.

What legislation has hillary introduced that became law that has benefited everyday working people?

What exactly has she done?

Her campaign platform is broadly a continuation of Obama's policies, which have worked pretty well overall. That's a good reason to vote for her. This isn't complicated, it's just boring, stable, effective governance.

I imagine you will end up voting for Trump, which means you're supporting a pathological liar that appears to be genuinely mentally unstable. By the way, if the issues you mentioned are the ones that actually matter to you that means you're going to have to convince yourself that Donald Trump has miraculously changed his opinion on all of them in recent years, conveniently in a way that lines up with Republican primary voters. I'm sure he's not lying to you about any of it.
 

senseamp

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When you are voting for a president, you are voting for a team. The Clintons have a good proven team behind them, which none of the other candidates do. On balance, Clinton years were a good time for this country, a time of opportunity.
Also, we are battling the forces of extremism, bigotry, and plain stupidity out there. The world is going mad. She is a status quo (establishment) candidate, I don't see it as a bad thing like some other people. I think we need continuous improvement approach, not the blow it all up and hope something better emerges from the smoke approach. Meaning, tune tax rates, change incentives, appoint liberal SCOTUS justices, adjust regulations, and let things evolve in the direction you want over time. No magic wands, and no major disruption. Again, we are at a dangerous time for the world. It feels like it's sliding into dark ages. Current status quo may start looking pretty good.
 

Capt Caveman

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Please be exact, what has hillary done since she has held a public office?

What has she done that would make her qualified to even run for election?

Talking is not a qualification.

What has Trump done that makes him qualified? Yes, you are a troll.
 

PricklyPete

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A lot of people will vote for Hillary to stop Trump.



This plain and simple. There is a high likelihood that I will vote Hillary for this exact reason.

How is this not an honest explanation (as you state in your OP)?
 
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It's especially crappy given much of Bill's attributed success was due to an economy he really had little to do with. Sheeple are sheeple though...

This is Monday morning quarterbacking....
Even if he had zero input into it he didn't screw it up.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Honest question, no trolling.

As a southern right wing, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-work for what you want republican I keep asking myself what has hillary done to deserve all the popularity?

She is better than trump is not an honest answer.

What legislation has hillary introduced that became law that has benefited everyday working people?

What exactly has she done?

Because Trump will take all of those things away from you, and Hillary won't.

He has claimed this much, and she has not.

This is why no one of good conscience (or greater than 5 functioning ganglia) could ever vote for Trump.
 

OrByte

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I will vote for HRC for what she WILL DO:

pick progressive/liberal Supreme Court Justices.



Just like What Michelle Obama said the other day, I'm voting for HRC because she will work towards something positive for my kids/grandkids.

Unlike Trump.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Please be exact, what has hillary done since she has held a public office?

What has she done that would make her qualified to even run for election?

Talking is not a qualification.

And Trump is a hollywood celebrity reality TV star that has barely succeeded in business by renegging on contracts (thus destroying the jobs of blue-collar good folks such as yourself over and over again) and playing the system through bankruptcy.

These are facts. The exact type of person that all republicans hate (Hollywood star, never responsible for his own failures, destroys the working man), and yet you support him.

Why?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Honest question, no trolling.

As a southern right wing, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-work for what you want republican I keep asking myself what has hillary done to deserve all the popularity?

She is better than trump is not an honest answer.

What legislation has hillary introduced that became law that has benefited everyday working people?

What exactly has she done?

Because Hillary isn't running her campaign on hatred, racism and xenophobia.

Also I don't want to return to losing 800K jobs/month under Republicans
 

chucky2

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Dec 9, 1999
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This is Monday morning quarterbacking....
Even if he had zero input into it he didn't screw it up.

Yes, but these indoctrinated fools think the reason for the economy doing as well as it did in the later 90's was because of Bill. Then, after applying that delusion to their brain cells, actually go Full Delusion and think believe that Billary will yield the same/improved economy because Awesome Billy will be around. Crazy sh1t...
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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When you are voting for a president, you are voting for a team. The Clintons have a good proven team behind them, which none of the other candidates do. On balance, Clinton years were a good time for this country, a time of opportunity.
Also, we are battling the forces of extremism, bigotry, and plain stupidity out there. The world is going mad. She is a status quo (establishment) candidate, I don't see it as a bad thing like some other people. I think we need continuous improvement approach, not the blow it all up and hope something better emerges from the smoke approach. Meaning, tune tax rates, change incentives, appoint liberal SCOTUS justices, adjust regulations, and let things evolve in the direction you want over time. No magic wands, and no major disruption. Again, we are at a dangerous time for the world. It feels like it's sliding into dark ages. Current status quo may start looking pretty good.
She is a rigged candidate put in place by the DNC. That is more corrupt than anything Trump could say or do, in fact Trump beat a rigged system since the RNC really didn't want him as candidate. The people voted, and Trump it is, love it or hate it. Either way hillary is a Manchurian candidate who will be helping Republican corporations and their agendas. At least with Trump, there is a chance that doesn't happen since he's so stubborn and can't be bought.
 

zinfamous

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It's especially crappy given much of Bill's attributed success was due to an economy he really had little to do with. Sheeple are sheeple though...

well, let's go down this rabbit hole.

whose economy was who's?

This economy--is it good or bad? Is the best, sustained job growth over the last 30 years bad or good? I keep hearing it's bad according to some people and I wonder why that is?

Is it Obama's or not? If it's good, is it his, or not? If it's bad, to whom does it belong?

What about the economy under Dubya? was that his or not? Who is to blame? What about the economy that was tanking before and into Carter's presidency? Was that his?

How long does it take before a president is responsible for an economy? St Reagan--the holy, and untouchable St Reagan--it seems he is given all responsibility for the great years that start the day he takes office, and none for those that collapsed after--why is that, I wonder? Was he touched by Jesus such that the day his hand fell on that bible he was miraculously blessed with the magic of perfect economy?

We need some clarification.
 
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