Why would Satan bother with Armageddon if he knows he's gunna loose...

dug777

Lifer
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as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

May wanna switch this over to OT.

 

dug777

Lifer
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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

May wanna switch this over to OT.

dammit
 

Zysoclaplem

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Why do the New Orlean Saints still have a football team? They know they aren't going to make it to the Super Bowl. And if they ever did they would lose.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
So that Satan will get his chance to kill as many of the followers of the Lord as possible.

but it seems rather futile if he has no chance of winning...
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.


 

CrispyFried

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if someone told you you couldnt win, wouldnt you try anyway? plus he will have his jollies trying and get some souls out of it. it will be his last chance so he will go for it in a big way.
 

SagaLore

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Satan isn't omniscient - he doesn't know he's going to lose. He really does think he can win.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Satan isn't omniscient - he doesn't know he's going to lose. He really does think he can win.



but we know it (apparently :confused...
 

Leper Messiah

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Satan isn't omniscient - he doesn't know he's going to lose. He really does think he can win.

Yeah, but he knows god is...I mean, if you know you're going to lose, why would you bother?

Unless god either doesn't exsist, he isn't omniscient.
 

CrispyFried

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.



no one really knows what hell is.

mainly hell is simply a place where you can no longer access God. its for those that reject God and He will not force Himself on anyone who doesnt want Him. fire and brimstone and all that are our interpretaion.

thats my churches view anyway. other churches have different views.
 

JasonSix78

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.


Yes, Christianity is based on Love and, no, Christians don't send people "to a fiery pit for eternity." If you would do some research then you'd know that one of a Christian's main
purposes is to warn others that if the don't accept Christ as their Lord and Savior then they will go "to a fiery pit for eternity."

-Jason
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: CrispyFried
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.



no one really knows what hell is.

mainly hell is simply a place where you can no longer access God. its for those that reject God and He will not force Himself on anyone who doesnt want Him. fire and brimstone and all that are our interpretaion.

thats my churches view anyway. other churches have different views.

i kinda like that :thumbsup:
 

CrispyFried

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Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Satan isn't omniscient - he doesn't know he's going to lose. He really does think he can win.

Yeah, but he knows god is...I mean, if you know you're going to lose, why would you bother?

Unless god either doesn't exsist, he isn't omniscient.

Wouldny you try anyway?

anyway satan gets his jollies just by enjoying the suffering. dont forget he challenged God knowing He was all powerful in the 1st place. greed and logic dont always go hand in hand.

 

captains

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when judgement day comes u have to find john conner to hide in a military bunker somewhere in the mountains
 

aircooled

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Originally posted by: CrispyFried
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.



no one really knows what hell is.

mainly hell is simply a place where you can no longer access God. its for those that reject God and He will not force Himself on anyone who doesnt want Him. fire and brimstone and all that are our interpretaion.

thats my churches view anyway. other churches have different views.

So maybe hell is a pretty nice place to be. Sign me up!




 

Leper Messiah

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Originally posted by: JasonSix78
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.


Yes, Christianity is based on Love and, no, Christians don't send people "to a fiery pit for eternity." If you would do some research then you'd know that one of a Christian's main
purposes is to warn others that if the don't accept Christ as their Lord and Savior then they will go "to a fiery pit for eternity."

-Jason

*cough*CrusadesSalemWitchTrialsSpainishInquistion*cough*
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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misery loves company...
he knows he is going to lose.

he just wants
a)to take as many people to a miserable hell with him.
plus
b)every time he takes one with him... its a smack in the face at god (satisfaction from revenge despite losing)... Look at joe schmoe you created... I turned him against you and hes a moron. your not that good of a creator after all.
 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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reading the bible, good for you!!

honestly, i think i gave up talking religion in OT. just too predictable any more.
 

bauerbrazil

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Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
Originally posted by: JasonSix78
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: dug777
as spelled out in the Book of Revelation, which go something like this: First there is the Rapture, in which God's loyal followers suddenly disappear from Earth and enter his kingdom. Then comes the Tribulation, a seven-year period of rule by the Antichrist and severe hardship on Earth. During this time, nonbelievers who remain on Earth will have a chance to convert to Christianity but will be hounded by the Antichrist and his minions. Then comes Armageddon, when God comes back to defeat Satan in a devastating battle. Ultimately, there is Judgment Day, when those who are with God live on in Paradise, and others are eternally condemned to Hell.

Why bother with the devastating battle if there's a predetermined conclusion? Maybe satan throws the game, after betting heavily on god...j/k

But seriously, someone explain the point of this...

Just one of the many flaws of christianity.

I swear, this is a classic case of force-fed bigotry and prejudice.

I thought Chrisitianity was based on LOVE...not sending people different then you to a firery pit for eternity.


Yes, Christianity is based on Love and, no, Christians don't send people "to a fiery pit for eternity." If you would do some research then you'd know that one of a Christian's main
purposes is to warn others that if the don't accept Christ as their Lord and Savior then they will go "to a fiery pit for eternity."

-Jason

*cough*CrusadesSalemWitchTrialsSpainishInquistion*cough*

Mwuhauhausa, enough said.

Close topic...

 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Everybody wants their fifteen minutes of fame, Satan included. Will the Tribulations get a whole hour in primetime or just a half hour?
 
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