Why would someone donate to the Sailor Gutzler Fund?

[drquest]

I can't imagine what this 7 year old girl had to endure trying to free herself from the plane and trying to wake her family up.

This is rather local to me, and I have a friend who actually flew on that plane with her father before.

Sad overall....

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I don't see disrepect, just people pointing out that there are more worthy causes to donate your money to.


Yes, that was hyperbole. But the point is that the family has access to resources that many others do not, and as such it is a little crass to ask random strangers for money.


Actually, if you're asking me for money, I'm perfectly within my rights to attempt to figure out whether it is a worthy cause. And the fact that I don't know about their assets and debts is really part of the problem...if a seemingly-wealthy person is suddenly in need of money, they can't expect me to open up my wallet unless they first explain what happened to their other resources.


Who is speculating on their finances now?

To be honest, these are all well made points. As it was said before:

the website is lacking in details on what this money is going to be used for or the financial situation is of the family.

Using this plight as a reason to consider the least fortunate children should lead us to donate to Save The Children A charity watch top rated program that helps children domestically and abroad.

The truth is that we get emotional about singular situations, but there are 100k children eligible for adoption who've suffered as well. If this impels you to care about children who are in need of adults to care about them then 1) you could adopt 2) you could volunteer at Big Brothers and Big Sisters of America 3) You could give money to charity watch top rated program.

 

[zubiedoobydoo]

Don't run off the new guy.

Thanks Highland. To the other guy who is criticizing me, nobody is asking you to open your wallet. The speculation I was referring to was just insensitive especially in light of great tragedy and loss for a child, a family, and and entire community. When I stumbled across it in the internet, as the family is going to, I felt impelled to say something. As you, I have a right to state my opinions. The comment about estates is not speculation, it's fact. If you have ever dealt with an estate settlement, you might be more aware of those facts.

The internet has unfortunately given so many people a means of hiding behind a keyboard and being critical of everyone, everywhere, for any reason. That doesn't mean the majority of the world finds it appropriate or useful or right.

 

[zubiedoobydoo]

To be honest, these are all well made points. As it was said before:



Using this plight as a reason to consider the least fortunate children should lead us to donate to Save The Children A charity watch top rated program that helps children domestically and abroad.

The truth is that we get emotional about singular situations, but there are 100k children eligible for adoption who've suffered as well. If this impels you to care about children who are in need of adults to care about them then 1) you could adopt 2) you could volunteer at Big Brothers and Big Sisters of America 3) You could give money to charity watch top rated program.

Actually this statement...

"Yes, that was hyperbole. But the point is that the family has access to resources that many others do not, and as such it is a little crass to ask random strangers for money."

...is not a point well made. How do any of you know what resources this family has? The plane was owned by a family friend who is a doctor. The guy was a pilot and he loved to fly. I have two friends who do the same thing, and they are both in salary ranges of tens of thousands, not hundreds or millions. How do I know that? They are state employees and their incomes are published.

We don't even know if it's the family asking for money. A family friend or community member may have set up the one official fund.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

That doesn't mean the majority of the world finds it appropriate or useful or right.

You are totally off base. Giving to one person because you feel for them is valuable to you because it makes you feel better about how bad off they are.

Giving to a charity that properly manages funds to help a class of people you care about is a much more logical decision.

It is very useful to consider the greater scope of the situation and think about helping others more generally, rather than focusing on the specific case. Even if you choose to enjoy your money by giving it to the specific case.

nobody is asking you to open your wallet.

We don't even know if it's the family asking for money. A family friend or community member may have set up the one official fund.

Someone did ask all of us to open our wallet; and some would like more information first, and others think it's an unreasonable request.

I'm glad they asked, and I think they should be free to ask in any manner they like. I'm glad you are giving, you have every right to spend your money in a way you enjoy. But just because you are giving to something that is not the most logical choice doesn't make pointing that out inappropriate.


Finally, if someone is going to be butt-hurt because this social-forum criticized asking for money on the internet then I highly recommend they avoid the vitriolic posts you'll find on reddit, and the 'sailor' pictures you're sure to find on 4-chan.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I don't see disrepect, just people pointing out that there are more worthy causes to donate your money to.


Yes, that was hyperbole. But the point is that the family has access to resources that many others do not, and as such it is a little crass to ask random strangers for money.


Actually, if you're asking me for money, I'm perfectly within my rights to attempt to figure out whether it is a worthy cause. And the fact that I don't know about their assets and debts is really part of the problem...if a seemingly-wealthy person is suddenly in need of money, they can't expect me to open up my wallet unless they first explain what happened to their other resources.


Who is speculating on their finances now?

Thanks for saving me the time to reply.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Thanks Highland. To the other guy who is criticizing me, nobody is asking you to open your wallet. The speculation I was referring to was just insensitive especially in light of great tragedy and loss for a child, a family, and and entire community. When I stumbled across it in the internet, as the family is going to, I felt impelled to say something. As you, I have a right to state my opinions. The comment about estates is not speculation, it's fact. If you have ever dealt with an estate settlement, you might be more aware of those facts.

The internet has unfortunately given so many people a means of hiding behind a keyboard and being critical of everyone, everywhere, for any reason. That doesn't mean the majority of the world finds it appropriate or useful or right.

The problem is that website is very short on details, I do not feel comfortable just blindly handing over donations because someone asks for it.

Maybe it would be a good idea if they explain the situation and why they need the money, ie: lets say they were totally insolvent and have negative assets etc.. some kind of explanation to why this money is needed so quickly.

Obviously she is being taken care of by other family members, so she is in good care. So this is why I am questioning why this money is needed so quickly? And why are details lacking?

I do donate quite a bit to charities every year, but I do not do it blindly and I check to make sure the money is being appropriated correctly and that the need is there.

 

[PastTense]

It could be that after hearing about Sailor's heroism that a number of people immediately wanted to contribute to help her out, and the family set this up to enable them to do so.