Why you american so obsess with guns??

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: BigJ
There is a huge number of weapons, ranging from handguns, to rifles, to whatever that can easily be obtained.

Hence the problem.

I guess by your logic it is too late to try and take handguns off the streets. Let's never try because it may take more time than an elected official will spend in office to complete, and therefore isn't worth the time or money?

I guess cleaning up the environment isn't worth it either, since there are already so many pollutants out there, why bother.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Lifted
By my logic, if nobody has concealed guns, CCW holders and criminals, than yes, the streets would be safer.

Please explain to me how criminials having concealed weapons makes the streets safer. I'd love to hear this logic.

Please explain to me why the fvck I should trust you with a gun on the streets. Because you filled out a form and they gave you a piece of paper? Thanks, but I'll take my chances with you not having a gun hidden on you. At least if you were walking down the street with a rifle I would to stay clear of your paranoid ass.

Let me just say that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

You don't know what it takes to get a CCW, you don't know how much training you have to go through. Frankly, you're talking about your ass right now. So I would appreciate it that you shut the hell up. Thank you.

P.S. - Criminals will always get what they way, that's why they're criminals. Make sense? So if you disarm everyone else, the criminals will still get what they want.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: BigJ
There is a huge number of weapons, ranging from handguns, to rifles, to whatever that can easily be obtained.

Hence the problem.

I guess by your logic it is too late to try and take handguns off the streets. Let's never try because it may take more time than an elected official will spend in office to complete, and therefore isn't worth the time or money?

I guess cleaning up the environment isn't worth it either, since there are already so many pollutants out there, why bother.

That's the thing. For criminals, you are not taking ANYTHING off the streets. They will always be able to get what they want. It's that simple.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Lifted
By my logic, if nobody has concealed guns, CCW holders and criminals, than yes, the streets would be safer.

Please explain to me how criminials having concealed weapons makes the streets safer. I'd love to hear this logic.

Please explain to me why the fvck I should trust you with a gun on the streets. Because you filled out a form and they gave you a piece of paper? Thanks, but I'll take my chances with you not having a gun hidden on you. At least if you were walking down the street with a rifle I would to stay clear of your paranoid ass.

Let me just say that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

You don't know what it takes to get a CCW, you don't know how much training you have to go through. Frankly, you're talking about your ass right now. So I would appreciate it that you shut the hell up. Thank you.

P.S. - Criminals will always get what they way, that's why they're criminals. Make sense? So if you disarm everyone else, the criminals will still get what they want.

Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

Thanks for the logical, well thought out contribution to this thread.

Be gone troll.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: BigJ

That's the thing. For criminals, you are not taking ANYTHING off the streets. They will always be able to get what they want. It's that simple.

See previous post.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Lifted
Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

Thanks for the logical, well thought out contribution to this thread.

Be gone troll.

What point are you trying to make?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Lifted
Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

Thanks for the logical, well thought out contribution to this thread.

Be gone troll.

What point are you trying to make?

I really have no idea what the point is from that post. Maybe that all criminals want M16's?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Lifted
By my logic, if nobody has concealed guns, CCW holders and criminals, than yes, the streets would be safer.

Please explain to me how criminials having concealed weapons makes the streets safer. I'd love to hear this logic.

Please explain to me why the fvck I should trust you with a gun on the streets. Because you filled out a form and they gave you a piece of paper? Thanks, but I'll take my chances with you not having a gun hidden on you. At least if you were walking down the street with a rifle I would to stay clear of your paranoid ass.

Let me just say that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

You don't know what it takes to get a CCW, you don't know how much training you have to go through. Frankly, you're talking about your ass right now. So I would appreciate it that you shut the hell up. Thank you.

P.S. - Criminals will always get what they way, that's why they're criminals. Make sense? So if you disarm everyone else, the criminals will still get what they want.

Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

Thanks for the logical, well thought out contribution to this thread.

Be gone troll.

I don't see your point. Yes, many criminals have automatic weapons including something like an M-16 rifle. However, automatic weapons have been illegal with a Class III license since the 80's.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

/thread

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: yllus
They like to shoot ignorant foreigners who find women that look like boys attractive, I think.

Exactly.

bwbhahhahahahah

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

/thread

Uhh, dunno who you are, but "lolololololo dat be sooooooooooooooo 1776!!!"

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Lifted
Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

There are many other alternative firearms in the same general class of "Assault Weapons" (Insert FUD here) that are better suited to concealed carry and accomplish the same end result of killing the mark.

Ghetto Logic: Why have an M16 when I can pack two Tecs and a Nine in the same space?

- M4H

 

[g8wayrebel]

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You american have a different way to think than canadians here.( im not saying you guys are more stupid here. ).I was born and raise with the mentallity of not touching guns.Guns is forbidden.Only bikers and gang members get guns, and its very illegal to have one.
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Yeah, You're too obsessed with our guns to use a spell checker or do your home work to speak(write) proper engrish. :laugh:
You are also full of crap. I have known many many cAnAdiAns who have ALL carried guns back and forth from the US to cAnAdA EH? :thumbsup:

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

point of note, handguns can never be completely gotten rid of. Any idiot with 2 hours of instruction and a couple of pieces of equipment can turn them out in mass.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
point of note, handguns can never be completely gotten rid of. Any idiot with 2 hours of instruction and a couple of pieces of equipment can turn them out in mass.

Yep.

Here's a link about it:

http://www.fortliberty.org/military-library/how-to-make-a-gun.shtml

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

/thread

Uhh, dunno who you are, but "lolololololo dat be sooooooooooooooo 1776!!!"

Yep it is. I read the previous statements about our "stable" society and evolved government and imo anyone who believes that is a fool.

 

[kini62]

Response to the OP.

CAUSE WE LIKE TO SHOOT THINGS!!!!!!!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: mwtgg

That's a bunch of horsecrap. Find me a story of someone with a CCW permit who "harmed society". Have fun searching.

Yes Gump, that is what you said.

"Would the streets not be safer if there were no concealed guns out there?"

Am I wrong for assuming that by your logic, CCW permit holders are part of the "problem"?

By my logic, if nobody has concealed guns, CCW holders and criminals, than yes, the streets would be safer.

Please explain to me how criminials having concealed weapons makes the streets safer. I'd love to hear this logic.

Please explain to me why the fvck I should trust you with a gun on the streets. Because you filled out a form and they gave you a piece of paper? Thanks, but I'll take my chances with you not having a gun hidden on you. At least if you were walking down the street with a rifle I would to stay clear of your paranoid ass.

Please explain to me how you are going to convince criminals to turn in their illegally owned handguns? How are you or anyone going to be able to assure me that you've accomplished this? Here's a clue: YOU CAN'T!!!

You are the paranoid ass here. OMG!!! Any one of these people could be packing heat!!! IT'S TIME TO PANIC!!! :roll: Moron.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: busmaster11
It's one thing to justify keeping one in the house for protection.

But for many people, American or not, they're just rednecks on a power trip. If this statement makes you mad, ask yourself why stun guns or tazors haven't phased out the majority of guns used for self-defense. And yes, the technology is there to make these weapons very usuable.

In America, and every place they can afford it, its ALL about the ego.

When they develop a tazer that will allow me multiple shots in very quick succession (multiple shots being defined as ~6; quick succession being defined as sub 1/4 second) that will also incapacitate someone with one hit (and that doesnt require a pause after that hit), I'll consider it. Also, it will need an effective range of 0-50 feet. Until then, it doesnt perform as well as the alternatives. I have yet to see a tazer that would fulfill those specs. If they exist, I would like a link so as to expand my horizons. However, if such a tazer is ever developed I highly doubt it will ever become legal for civilians to own at a price point comparable to a 357 revolver.

Now, you may think that there are some tazers out there that come close, or fulfill some of the above specs, and are thus "good enough". "Close" is not, and has never been, good enough. There are no rewards for finishing second place in a situation that warrants the use of a firearm.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Lifted
By my logic, if nobody has concealed guns, CCW holders and criminals, than yes, the streets would be safer.

Please explain to me how criminials having concealed weapons makes the streets safer. I'd love to hear this logic.

Please explain to me why the fvck I should trust you with a gun on the streets. Because you filled out a form and they gave you a piece of paper? Thanks, but I'll take my chances with you not having a gun hidden on you. At least if you were walking down the street with a rifle I would to stay clear of your paranoid ass.

Let me just say that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

You don't know what it takes to get a CCW, you don't know how much training you have to go through. Frankly, you're talking about your ass right now. So I would appreciate it that you shut the hell up. Thank you.

P.S. - Criminals will always get what they way, that's why they're criminals. Make sense? So if you disarm everyone else, the criminals will still get what they want.

Lot's of criminals out there with M16's, huh? Ohh, I gues they just don't want them.

Thanks for the logical, well thought out contribution to this thread.

Be gone troll.

That shows how stupid you really are. Assault rifles were used in a fraction of 1% of all gun crimes prior to the AWB. Guess what? They are still used in almost the same number of crimes since the AWB. That law accomplished nothing and made the streets safer for no one. Actually, it did accomplish one thing. It made it impossible for me to buy a rifle with one of those evil plastic stocks and a pistol grip or one of those flash supressors that were killing so many school children. :roll:

I'd still like to see ANYONE come up with an argument that counters my experiences in Los Angeles during the riots in the early 90s. That to me is one of the most compelling reasons to own guns. I'm still waiting girls...:laugh:

 

[MiniDoom]

Yeah because gun control/ban really helped Washington DC out. To me it almost seems racist because whitey here in Virginia can have a gun but god forbid if color folk in DC get their hands on a gun.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You are the paranoid ass here.

I'm not the one with a gun.

I'm not the one who needs a gun to go to sleep at night because I'm worried about somebody breaking into my house.

That sir, would be you.

:laugh:

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Yeah because gun control/ban really helped Washington DC out. To me it almost seems racist because whitey here in Virginia can have a gun but god forbid if color folk in DC get their hands on a gun.

You can't be serious.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Yeah because gun control/ban really helped Washington DC out. To me it almost seems racist because whitey here in Virginia can have a gun but god forbid if color folk in DC get their hands on a gun.

You can't be serious.

Actually yes I am, when the government tells a mostly black area they cannot own guns but the mostly white area next to it can just seems a little racist to me.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You are the paranoid ass here.

I'm not the one with a gun.

I'm not the one who needs a gun to go to sleep at night because I'm worried about somebody breaking into my house.

That sir, would be you.

:laugh:

And you're the one who's so afraid of the guy next door who owns a gun that you poop yourself when he brushes against you in the street.

- M4H