The 13" starts at $1200. The 15" starts at $1700. The 17" starts at TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.
You people are fucking insane.
The 13" is 4.5lbs. The 15" is 5.6lbs. Really? 1.1lbs will kill you or something? 5.6lbs is somehow not mobile?
She did when I said,"Just 2 more and the fun starts."
Invest in a 2x4 to tie on your a**.'I only have 4 inches myself... but hey, some chicks need it that wide.'
I just went to Lenovo and to Apple and configured two laptops: 2.4GHz intel, 4GB, nvidia 256mb graphics, 250gb HD, camera, bluetooth, large battery.
Apple's 13.3" with these specs is $1250, Lenovo Thinkpad T410 14.1" with these specs is $1363. You can try doing the same with the nicer Dells and HPs, I doubt you'll find more than 5%-10% savings, if any.
Quality laptops will cost you that much no matter who you buy them from.
oh look, our commie troll has returned.
so has Gayner.
what a fascinating thread.
When I brought mine, I priced it against the nicer Lenovos and Dells and it cost the same.
You paid a thousand dollars for a 13" laptop.
Good god.
I'm not even going to bother taking your retarded bait.
You can definitely find cheaper laptops if you shop around. ASUS U30JC-B1, for example, can be had for about $900 and has similar/slightly better specs. And ASUS makes pretty good stuff, according to SquareTrade they're also one of the most reliable laptop manufacturers, slightly edging out Apple.I just went to Lenovo and to Apple and configured two laptops: 2.4GHz intel, 4GB, nvidia 256mb graphics, 250gb HD, camera, bluetooth, large battery.
Apple's 13.3" with these specs is $1250, Lenovo Thinkpad T410 14.1" with these specs is $1363. You can try doing the same with the nicer Dells and HPs, I doubt you'll find more than 5%-10% savings, if any.
Quality laptops will cost you that much no matter who you buy them from.
Bullshit.
You can definitely find cheaper laptops if you shop around. ASUS U30JC-B1, for example, can be had for about $900 and has similar/slightly better specs. And ASUS makes pretty good stuff, according to SquareTrade they're also one of the most reliable laptop manufacturers, slightly edging out Apple.
Entirely possible. I have heard a lot of good things about the iMac screens, I'd assume Apple also uses pretty nice ones in their Macbooks.I do seem to remember that the screen asus chose to go with on the U30JC supposedly blows. But that's all part of the trade off the consumer has to weight in level of importance.
But But But it's so much nicer than a Dell!!!!!!
It is kind of weird, since Apple pricing stays fairly static (the 13" Pro threw a slight wrench into the works) and if anything has gone down over the years (When I got my MacBook back in '06, the MBP 15 was $2000 base, it is now $1800 base I think), but the specs change. And there are times, usually right at the time of refresh where they are the best deal on the block, and sometimes the only place to get something. They were the first with the 8600m and Santa Rosa I think, and held that for a couple of months.
There are also lots of little features:
1: Glass trackpad (and before the ignorant can say anything, it does click, the whole thing is hinged at the top, and you can flip a software setting that allows the bottom right click to be a right click) with multi-touch. The, hands down, best trackpad in the industry. It is spacious, will basically never wear down or get shiny, feels great to use, is sensitive and responsive, is automatically disabled when you start to type and is just amazing to use (especially when compared to any other trackpad out there)
2: Long battery life without extra battery packs, and with a full powered system. Regardless of whether you think they could have crammed a Core i7 Quad into the MBP 13, the fact is that the Core 2 Duo that is in there is still faster and better than the ULV chips in other laptops with 10 hour batteries.
3: Backlit keyboards on the Pro lines.
4: MagSafe connector.
5: Sudden Motion Sensors in all the laptops.
6: Ability to dual boot anything, legally.
7: The VM software on OS X is incredible. They are easy to use, good looking, fast, stable, and are pushing what they can do (3D graphics, gaming support, use your bootcamp partition as a VM so you don't have to waste HDD space, or reboot to make changes)
8: Apple retail presence. They have a store in almost every state, often more than one. If something goes wrong, you can take it to an actual human to have it be diagnosed. They can either fix it there, or send it out from there, and it can either be shipped to you or you can pick it up from there.
Are they more expensive than their PC counterparts? Most of the time yes.
Is it by a lot? If you happen to want everything that the Mac has namely, WirelessN, Gigabit LAN (not all laptops have this yet, but almost), BT, backlit keyboard and whatnot then usually not by much, and sometimes are darn near on parity. If you can get by with fewer features, then you can save a lot going with a PC.
Is it the only legit way to run OS X? Yes. So if you want that, then you should buy a Mac.
This is the whole reason I started hating Apple in the first place. Scam artist ripoff pricing for subpar or equivalent hardware is just not cool.
The 13" starts at $1200. The 15" starts at $1700. The 17" starts at TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.
You people are fucking insane.
The 13" is 4.5lbs. The 15" is 5.6lbs. Really? 1.1lbs will kill you or something? 5.6lbs is somehow not mobile?
Two inches is enough to make people cry uncle?
I like how some of the Mac users in here judge their laptop not on utility but on silly things like the fucking screen hinges.
Once again, please provide an example of how the 13" mbp is a rip off. No one wants to play that game apparently.
I would pay 2x more just for the trackpad.